Dodgy Physics

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wolves_wanderer

12,398 posts

238 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Quite agree, I mean we all know that the plane wouldn't have taken off, people saying otherwise and trying to dress it up in cod physics drives me up the wall

rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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JonRB said:
Perhaps, but I bet my willy really is bigger than yours. And I've actually got two degrees.


1 Degree, 2 Post grads.

:slingspenisovershouldertostopitdraggingonthefloor:

scorp

8,783 posts

230 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Well, people sometimes get things wrong, it's a fact of life and happens to ALL of us. How about learning some tolerance instead of foaming at the mouth over it. Thanks.

>> Edited by scorp on Friday 26th May 14:28

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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wolves_wanderer said:
Quite agree, I mean we all know that the plane wouldn't have taken off, people saying otherwise and trying to dress it up in cod physics drives me up the wall


i think you missed a or a to show us you were really joking there

Mr Whippy

29,113 posts

242 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Pah, it's wheel bearings melt and then it goes BANG as rubber bits of tyre penetrate the fuel tanks in the wings, thus removing any potential of meaningful lift so it can't take off!

Yay

Dave

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

221 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Mr Whippy said:
Pah, it's wheel bearings melt and then it goes BANG as rubber bits of tyre penetrate the fuel tanks in the wings, thus removing any potential of meaningful lift so it can't take off!

Yay

Dave


Did Air France attempt to launch Concorde of a conveyor then?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Jay GTI said:
Is it really that important? Is your life really that affected by some random posting on an internet forum? Of course if we were all as wonderful as you lot, there wouldn't be a problem right?

Christ, I always thought PH was full of snobs but this thread takes the biscuit...


www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=273411 ?

HTH.

Phil Hopkins

17,111 posts

218 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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BliarOut said:
Jay GTI said:
Is it really that important? Is your life really that affected by some random posting on an internet forum? Of course if we were all as wonderful as you lot, there wouldn't be a problem right?

Christ, I always thought PH was full of snobs but this thread takes the biscuit...


www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=141&t=273411 ?

HTH.


orgasmicliving!!

5,964 posts

221 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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JonRB said:
DieselJohn said:
I don't like it when people start comparing academic nob sizes, i.e. 'I'm right because I've got a degree' etc.
Perhaps, but I bet my willy really is bigger than yours. And I've actually got two degrees.
That and $3.49 will get you a happy meal at McDonald's.

dvs_dave

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8,711 posts

226 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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Jay GTI said:
Is it really that important? Is your life really that affected by some random posting on an internet forum? Of course if we were all as wonderful as you lot, there wouldn't be a problem right?

Christ, I always thought PH was full of snobs but this thread takes the biscuit...


It isn't important and it doesn't effect my life any more than it does yours. Inside the example I gave, the crux of what I was asking is why some people argue the toss even after overwhelming evidence/explanations to the contrary.

I don't really see how that could be regarded as snobby.

orgasmicliving!!

5,964 posts

221 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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dvs_dave said:
It isn't important and it doesn't effect my life any more than it does yours. Inside the example I gave, the crux of what I was asking is why some people argue the toss even after overwhelming evidence/explanations to the contrary.

I don't really see how that could be regarded as snobby.
Err, no EVIDENCE was provided. Only explanations, which always were predicated on a different understanding of the problem or ignored some salient fact.

It's affect, not effect, the way you have used it and there's no such word as snobby. Did you mean snobery?

>> Edited by orgasmicliving!! on Friday 26th May 16:34

esselte

14,626 posts

268 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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orgasmicliving!! said:
dvs_dave said:
It isn't important and it doesn't effect my life any more than it does yours. Inside the example I gave, the crux of what I was asking is why some people argue the toss even after overwhelming evidence/explanations to the contrary.

I don't really see how that could be regarded as snobby.
Err, no EVIDENCE was provided. Only explanations, which always were predicated on a different understanding of the problem or ignored some salient fact.

It's affect, not effect, the way you have used it and there's no such word as snobby. Did you mean snobery?

>> Edited by orgasmicliving!! on Friday 26th May 16:34


Ahem...snobbery

timbob

2,110 posts

253 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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I remember a big, long, hotly debated thread on another forum I read about 0.9 recurring.

Someone asked whether 0.9r = 1, or not. It became the "Aeroplane/conveyer belt" thread of that forum. Lots of people said no, it can't possibly = 1. Various people posted some ridicolously simple, easy to follow mathematical proof, and still about 60% of people posting in the thread refused to believe it was true, and they knew best.

Made me chuckle anyway

doodlebug

746 posts

217 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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orgasmicliving!! said:
Err, no EVIDENCE was provided. Only explanations, which always were predicated on a different understanding of the problem or ignored some salient fact.

You said you had seen an experiment performed. We are still waiting for your evidence.
orgasmicliving!! said:
It's affect, not effect, the way you have used it and there's no such word as snobby. Did you mean snobery?

There's no such word as snobery, either.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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esselte said:
orgasmicliving!! said:
dvs_dave said:
It isn't important and it doesn't effect my life any more than it does yours. Inside the example I gave, the crux of what I was asking is why some people argue the toss even after overwhelming evidence/explanations to the contrary.

I don't really see how that could be regarded as snobby.
Err, no EVIDENCE was provided. Only explanations, which always were predicated on a different understanding of the problem or ignored some salient fact.

It's affect, not effect, the way you have used it and there's no such word as snobby. Did you mean snobery?


Ahem...snobbery
PMSL

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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timbob said:
I remember a big, long, hotly debated thread on another forum I read about 0.9 recurring.

Someone asked whether 0.9r = 1, or not. It became the "Aeroplane/conveyer belt" thread of that forum. Lots of people said no, it can't possibly = 1. Various people posted some ridicolously simple, easy to follow mathematical proof, and still about 60% of people posting in the thread refused to believe it was true, and they knew best.

Made me chuckle anyway


i've seen that
1 divided by 3 = 0.3r
3 x 0.3r = 0.9r

therefore 1 = 0.9r

orgasmicliving!!

5,964 posts

221 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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I don't understand. He can make up words, but I can't?

With regards to the airplane thread, the big mistake was not stating the problem when I started it. I assumed everyone was talkign about the same problem. I asked for links to the original thread, and no one posted any. Then, 38 pages in, the other side stated the problem as "A plane is moving..." after which everyone went back to insisting that it must move.

If it says the plane is moving, then it is pretty safe to assume the plane is moving, physics be damned.
What about the engines? Who cares, the plane is moving.
Now, what about the conveyor belt? Who cares, the plane is moving.
What about this? What about that? Who cares? The plane is moving. Your problem states, "The plane is moving..."
Nothing left to debate.

Now, if anyone read my problem, which I do take responsibility for not laying out first as I should have, it says, "A plane is sitting on a conveyor belt..."

Tell me why, for 50-odd pages, people insisted on proving that the plane would move when their version of the problem simply stated it would? All they had to do was point to the statement, and say, look it's a given.

Seems we have a lot of aspiring police officers on here...some even have advanced degrees.

Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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timbob said:
I remember a big, long, hotly debated thread on another forum I read about 0.9 recurring.

Someone asked whether 0.9r = 1, or not. It became the "Aeroplane/conveyer belt" thread of that forum. Lots of people said no, it can't possibly = 1. Various people posted some ridicolously simple, easy to follow mathematical proof, and still about 60% of people posting in the thread refused to believe it was true, and they knew best.

Made me chuckle anyway


0.9r does NOT equal 1. I can post some ridiculously simple, easy to follow mathematical proof, if you like.

dvs_dave

Original Poster:

8,711 posts

226 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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orgasmicliving!! said:
dvs_dave said:
stuff
Err, no EVIDENCE was provided. Only explanations, which always were predicated on a different understanding of the problem or ignored some salient fact.

It's affect, not effect, the way you have used it and there's no such word as snobby. Did you mean snobery?

>> Edited by orgasmicliving!! on Friday 26th May 16:34


Would you care to answer my original question or would you prefer to go off on a petit nitpicking tangent?

You do after all have an excellent insight into what I’m taking about. You contribution will be most welcome.

orgasmicliving!!

5,964 posts

221 months

Friday 26th May 2006
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doodlebug said:
You said you had seen an experiment performed. We are still waiting for your evidence.

I also stated I don't have the tape.

But, it's an easy experiment to perform.