Kalashnikovs.......
Discussion
anonymous said:
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I think Eminem was right, I think maybe you need some counselling....
What would you fire at, it's not as if it's likely to hit a barn door without firing several hundred rounds.....
As for killing tools, a rifle can hit a target at range, a pistol is a test of aim and coordination, a bow and arrow is the same, a Kalashnikov is not the best at anything, it's not accurate enough to outrank other weapons for accuracy, it's one of the most indiscriminate weapons around, it's just reliable. Unless you are using it to kill or need to be able to kill with 110% reliability, why bother with it unless you intend to use it.
Firing fully auto weapons at paper targets must rate as one of best bits of fun you can have with your clothes on.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZlN4gUo6U&search=monster%20garage%20minigun
Fun!
God knows have many thousands of dollars worth of ammo that used!
Fun!
God knows have many thousands of dollars worth of ammo that used!
wedg1e said:
I was talking with a guy from 'a certain armaments manufacturer' who was telling me about the ship-borne anti-missile system they sell.
It's like a minigun on steroids. The radar system detects an incoming missile, plots speed and trajectory versus the movement of the ship, wind speed etc. Then the pod opens, the gun pops up on high-speed hydraulics and starts spraying (IIRC) thousands of titanium (or was it tungsten) rounds into the path of the missile so that when the missile gets there, it gets shredded.
Slight drawback is that the system has to operate without warning, so if a hapless seaman happens to be in the way when the pod opens...
It's like a minigun on steroids. The radar system detects an incoming missile, plots speed and trajectory versus the movement of the ship, wind speed etc. Then the pod opens, the gun pops up on high-speed hydraulics and starts spraying (IIRC) thousands of titanium (or was it tungsten) rounds into the path of the missile so that when the missile gets there, it gets shredded.
Slight drawback is that the system has to operate without warning, so if a hapless seaman happens to be in the way when the pod opens...
probably either phalanx, or a goalkeeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeep
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_
mackie1 said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZlN4gUo6U&search=monster%20garage%20minigun
Fun!
God knows have many thousands of dollars worth of ammo that used!
Fun!
God knows have many thousands of dollars worth of ammo that used!
but who cares if you dont pay for it!!
wedg1e said:
I was talking with a guy from 'a certain armaments manufacturer' who was telling me about the ship-borne anti-missile system they sell.
It's like a minigun on steroids. The radar system detects an incoming missile, plots speed and trajectory versus the movement of the ship, wind speed etc. Then the pod opens, the gun pops up on high-speed hydraulics and starts spraying (IIRC) thousands of titanium (or was it tungsten) rounds into the path of the missile so that when the missile gets there, it gets shredded.
Slight drawback is that the system has to operate without warning, so if a hapless seaman happens to be in the way when the pod opens...
It's like a minigun on steroids. The radar system detects an incoming missile, plots speed and trajectory versus the movement of the ship, wind speed etc. Then the pod opens, the gun pops up on high-speed hydraulics and starts spraying (IIRC) thousands of titanium (or was it tungsten) rounds into the path of the missile so that when the missile gets there, it gets shredded.
Slight drawback is that the system has to operate without warning, so if a hapless seaman happens to be in the way when the pod opens...
Would that be the Phalanx gun? I heard that it was once set up on a Carrier to provide automatic defence against anything heading towards the ship. Except that they forgot to leave a safe arc for planes trying to land...
wedg1e said:
I was talking with a guy from 'a certain armaments manufacturer' who was telling me about the ship-borne anti-missile system they sell.
It's like a minigun on steroids. The radar system detects an incoming missile, plots speed and trajectory versus the movement of the ship, wind speed etc. Then the pod opens, the gun pops up on high-speed hydraulics and starts spraying (IIRC) thousands of titanium (or was it tungsten) rounds into the path of the missile so that when the missile gets there, it gets shredded.
Slight drawback is that the system has to operate without warning, so if a hapless seaman happens to be in the way when the pod opens...
It's like a minigun on steroids. The radar system detects an incoming missile, plots speed and trajectory versus the movement of the ship, wind speed etc. Then the pod opens, the gun pops up on high-speed hydraulics and starts spraying (IIRC) thousands of titanium (or was it tungsten) rounds into the path of the missile so that when the missile gets there, it gets shredded.
Slight drawback is that the system has to operate without warning, so if a hapless seaman happens to be in the way when the pod opens...
Sounds like Phalanx or Goal Keeper. However niether emerge from a pod as you describe so it might be something different or newer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeep
Uses a 30mm gattling gun very similar to that used in the A-10 tank buster. The not-quite-so-good Phalanx system is similar and featured in the film Under Siege.
anonymous said:
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journalistic licence etc. Plus if you want to use it in single shot mode to hit things, why bother with an AK47.....
I just don't see why a child would 'love' one. It's this sort of stuff that makes the next Dylan Klebold.
The funny thing about the AK-47 is the safety switch...
It goes SAFE - FULLY AUTO - SINGLE SHOT..
so if your hiding in a bush and the enemy strolls past - to have the [relativley] accurate single shot, you have to switch past fully auto...
which wouldnt be a problem, if the safety switch didnt make a rather loud 'Click' through each setting... giving away your position...
so fully auto it is...
anonymous said:
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The funny thing about the AK-47 is the safety switch...
It goes SAFE - FULLY AUTO - SINGLE SHOT..
so if your hiding in a bush and the enemy strolls past - to have the [relativley] accurate single shot, you have to switch past fully auto...
which wouldnt be a problem, if the safety switch didnt make a rather loud 'Click' through each setting... giving away your position...
so fully auto it is...
Try being quite with a Sten, it's nearly bloody impossible, everything rattles and clicks loudly as well. And it would probably jam on you too. At least AKs work.
tycho said:
r988 said:
Metal Storm does 1,000,000rpm
www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/06/26/australia.metalstorm/
www.metalstorm.com
OK, so you may have to reload it a few times to get that rate......
Edited by tycho on Monday 26th June 12:25
I am now feeling the need to watch Predator. Or Commando.
Jspesh said:
Where would I get a de-armed AK47 which I could frame and hang on my wall? Always wanted one. Preferably a real gun that's actually been used, so it has some history.
Here:
www.worldwidearms.com/popup.cfm?p_n=97197&p_i=97197
Having fired the AK47 i can say the gun is totally industructable,but for anything that is beyond 60 mtrs it is hopeless,some of the chinese and Korean copys are worse.After putting about 6 rounds down the barrel the barrel warps slightly sending the rounds all over the place.If you want to buy a de-act AK,they are about £150-£200 which are new spec de-ack,which means that all working parts dont work.Cant even move the cocking slide back.
The comment relating to hiding in the bushes, above, is a bit odd, since a round is chambered in single shot. No obvious reason to switch to safe from that point, if you're in position rather than on the move 
The full autos I've fired have been American built, their receivers tend to fit together properly, but, yes, barrel heating is a major issue.
Still plenty of pre October '95 rifles out there They're around £300.
www.cobbatoncombat.co.uk/
have had AKMs, but their store doesn't seem to want to let me in.
So, are Lightnings out of bounds too ? What about suits of armour ? Cannons ?
BLUETHUNDER said:
Having fired the AK47 i can say the gun is totally industructable,but for anything that is beyond 60 mtrs it is hopeless,some of the chinese and Korean copys are worse.After putting about 6 rounds down the barrel the barrel warps slightly sending the rounds all over the place.
The full autos I've fired have been American built, their receivers tend to fit together properly, but, yes, barrel heating is a major issue.
BLUETHUNDER said:
If you want to buy a de-act AK,they are about £150-£200 which are new spec de-ack,which means that all working parts dont work.Cant even move the cocking slide back.
Still plenty of pre October '95 rifles out there
They're around £300. www.cobbatoncombat.co.uk/
have had AKMs, but their store doesn't seem to want to let me in.
Yugguy said:
So, are Lightnings out of bounds too ? What about suits of armour ? Cannons ?
J111 said:
The comment relating to hiding in the bushes, above, is a bit odd, since a round is chambered in single shot. No obvious reason to switch to safe from that point, if you're in position rather than on the move
well, if your in a sniper position waiting for a specific target in a specific location, then yes i see your point...
however, in most cases you will be moving, or be prepared to adjust your position, and you really want to have the rifle 'safe' in those situations!
I remember hearing somewhere that during the Vietnam War, US troops would often swap their M16s for (more reliable) AK-47s. However, the AK-47 apparently has a very distinctive firing sound, which ain't great if you're sat in the middle of US lines in the dark sounding like an enemy firing away at very close quarters...
In a CQB the AK has a harder punch than the M16 due to the larger calibre round,thats why some U.S troops in vietnam swapped M16,s for AK,s but there was the M16 reliablity issue as well.It was found that if you got hit with an AK and went down you stayed down.Not nesserally the case with the 5.56mm M16.
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