Cutting a 4" hole through a wall.

Cutting a 4" hole through a wall.

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Goochie

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Monday 27th October 2008
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ALawson said:
Could you not just take it up through the ceiling into the attic, run some ducting across the loft and then down through the u/s of the facia boarding thing.
I could, but I dont want to ruin the look of my ceiling by putting an extractor in it hehe

pdV6

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263 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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ALawson said:
Could you not just take it up through the ceiling into the attic, run some ducting across the loft and then down through the u/s of the facia boarding thing.
...Which is just what I was going to suggest.

Cutting a hole through 9" of brick seems a bit like hard work to me.

Goochie

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Monday 27th October 2008
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I'm not too keen on holding a rather heavy drill, with both hands whilst up a ladder at 1st floor level.

Is the "exit wound" likely to be messy ?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Goochie said:
ALawson said:
Could you not just take it up through the ceiling into the attic, run some ducting across the loft and then down through the u/s of the facia boarding thing.
I could, but I dont want to ruin the look of my ceiling by putting an extractor in it hehe
you could vent straight to atmosphere throught the roof - collar the pipe and stick a hat on it

no elecs required

Plotloss

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272 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Goochie said:
I'm not too keen on holding a rather heavy drill, with both hands whilst up a ladder at 1st floor level.

Is the "exit wound" likely to be messy ?
Personally I'd drill a guide hole all the way through, go in an inch or so from inside out and then complete from outside in to minimise the blast.

Not a job I'd want to do on a ladder mind.

SplatSpeed

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253 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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hire a kango

Sciroccology

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232 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Shape charge.

ALawson

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253 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Just hire one of these.

http://www.hilti.co.uk/holuk/modules/prcat/prca_na...

We use these at work, I needed to core 82 No 75mm dia holes through a 1.5m thick slab I think it took us 1 week with one rig and a few extra core cutting heads.


Goochie

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5,664 posts

221 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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ALawson said:
Just hire one of these.

http://www.hilti.co.uk/holuk/modules/prcat/prca_na...

We use these at work, I needed to core 82 No 75mm dia holes through a 1.5m thick slab I think it took us 1 week with one rig and a few extra core cutting heads.
hehe Imagine using that 18ft up a ladder.

Pigeon

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248 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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They suck themselves on to the wall, you don't actually have to hold the weight of it while it's working.

They are also wobbly and ste and the core bit jams in the hole half way through. Strange that that's the one thing Hilti make which is ste.

Me, I'd just do the job with a lump hammer and cold chisel, then mortar around the pipe afterwards. Core drills are a pain in the arse especially when you're using them sideways while standing on something and the brute force method is likely to be quicker and easier.

S. Gonzales Esq.

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214 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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I did our kitchen extractor by chain-drilling and doing the rest with a lump hammer and a big chisel.

They appeared to be engineering bricks which didn't help, but still had it done in a few hours - took me days to recover though.

sleep envy

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251 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Pigeon said:
Strange that that's the one thing Hilti make which is ste.
because it's based on a floor mounted diamond driller

tybalt

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272 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Plotloss said:
Goochie said:
I'm not too keen on holding a rather heavy drill, with both hands whilst up a ladder at 1st floor level.

Is the "exit wound" likely to be messy ?
Personally I'd drill a guide hole all the way through, go in an inch or so from inside out and then complete from outside in to minimise the blast.

Not a job I'd want to do on a ladder mind.
It's an easy job to do, even on a ladder. Diamond core drill with extension and centre pilot.

Just make sure that your drill has a clutch. If you talk to a half decent hire shop they should give you the advise you need. I've done several, and they do make a mess, but doesn't all proper building work? Nothing like as bad as cutting bricks or raking mortar with a disk cutter. I've got a decent drill myself, but I've never found it economic to buy a decent core drill. 9 inch disk cutters are far more horrible to use up a ladder, and much more dangerous IMHO.

Definitely meet somewhere in the middle as Plotloss says.

tybalt

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272 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Pigeon said:
They suck themselves on to the wall, you don't actually have to hold the weight of it while it's working.

They are also wobbly and ste and the core bit jams in the hole half way through. Strange that that's the one thing Hilti make which is ste.

Me, I'd just do the job with a lump hammer and cold chisel, then mortar around the pipe afterwards. Core drills are a pain in the arse especially when you're using them sideways while standing on something and the brute force method is likely to be quicker and easier.
I've tried that approach too. I'm very st at bricklaying and pointing, so it doesn't work for me. Knocking a hole in something is easy enough, but making it look good afterwards - not so simple. If it's for an extractor the covers are generally designed with absolutely minimal overlap for the hole, and often the kits come with a wobbly tube which wouldn't support wet mortar.

Core drill is the best option IMHO.