SPOILER THREAD - Half Blood Prince
SPOILER THREAD - Half Blood Prince
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jimothy

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5,151 posts

266 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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Thought I'd create this for more detailed discussions about the plot twists in the new Harry Potter...

:shout: Don't read on if you don't want the plot spoiled...

jimothy

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5,151 posts

266 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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I recon Fawkes is a Horcrux for Dumbledore so he'll be back in the next one - the killing you have to do involving fawkes' death then resurection from the ashes so Dumbledore can have a horcrux without anyone really dying.

Also, Harry's scar is the 7th of Voldemort's Horcruxes and he'll have to die to kill Voldemort.

Whats your theories?

maxf

8,444 posts

270 months

DanL

6,586 posts

294 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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Interesting idea - I'm pretty sure he's not dead, as there's Dumbledore says something along the lines of he's returned - well, most of him. Something like that, which makes me think there's a bit of him that hasn't.

Don't think we'll see him back hale and hearty, but more as a ghostly advisor.

Dan

mutt

4,301 posts

259 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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maxf said:
www.tshirthell.com/dumbledore.htm


Love the fact that the US version obviously had to be in larger type!

AlexH

2,505 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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I'm reckoning Dumbledore will be back too...I like the idea of Fawkes being his Horcrux.

Also sure that having Snape kill him was a set-up; either with Snape in on it so he could get closer to Voldemort, or Snape not being in on it and Dumbledore putting himself in a position where Snape could 'kill' him and so reveal his true allegiance.

Anyone any idea who R.A.B. is?

seafarer

1,278 posts

282 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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Most people think it's Sirius' brother Regulus. The handwriting font used is the same as that in Sirius correspondence to Harry, so supposed to look related? Some people think it's the same locket that was in the Black house that wouldn't open, if so, then how did it get to the Cave, if it had already been switched, how come Harry could open it later but not in the Black house? So it's either not the same locket (as R.A.B was already dead and supposed to have done the spellwork on it before Harry got it) or it was planted there by someone pretending to be R.A.B and the horcrux it contained had been secured elsewhere. It would follow the same pattern of the at-first-seemingly feint that resulted in the death of Sirius in the last book.

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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hmm summerise what i have said in other topics on other forums...

basically... Going back to the HP/Horcruix thingy - i'm still not convinved about this... go back to the fight in the ministry - Riddle possessed Harry and invited Dumbledore to finish him off (that would then result in Riddle having 2 parts of his soul together again - not something i think Riddle would risk, nor would he be so flippant tho i'm sure he was gambling on bullying AD into allowing him to escape with possessing HP and a distraction - each of the pieces of Riddles soul so far found have been well hidden and protected in the way Tom thinks best - something to his downfall as AD knows him too well - also the proficy - one can only live when the other dies - hence if HP has a part of Riddls soul in him.... HP dieing would kill part of Riddle - killing the current form of Vol and the other cruixes would still leave Riddle existing in potter.

I think it is currently more faverable that Riddle planned to use the death of HP to create his final Hcruix in a special object - the deaths of Lilly and James where just a side show - a means to an end... for Riddle at least - in that he fuililled the part of the prophisy he knew about - and in doing so finished breaking his soul into 7 parts)

my thoughts also come - if potter was to be the death to create the final breaking of the soul then.. there where only 6 parts - one which was distroyed in the diary - 2 (or is 3?) have been distroyed... one is missing...

on the snape thing - hmm remember when HP was taking lessions from snape - when Snape entered his mind HP saw what S was seeing - no mention of this is made while S is at the curtains... N would suddenly see what TR had ordered draco to do... tho her being in the state she was - was probly visualising it anyway... but i read it as S had his back to the room.. and hence - normally it seems to cast the spell - eye contact needs to be made - in the lessions S maintains eye contract - in the fight before he leaves - he is looking at HP - reading his mind to see what spells to be deflected... and there is the gentle reminders for potter to train his mind - i think in a typical S way - put HP down to force his hand... )

umm tho...just read this bit...

"But Snape had gotten to his feet and strode to the small window, peered through the curtains, and then closed them again with a jerk. He turned around to face Narcissa, frowning." (HBP pg 32/37)


What happened to make him jerk the curtains closed all of a sudden and turn back to the women, frowning? Has he had a revelation?

there - S WAS looking at N before speaking - allowing him to read her mind... )


see www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com/