Bird flu skipped to a cat?
Discussion
A while back in Focus magazine they had an example of a worse case scenario (sp?). This was that cats were catching it from the birds they killed, and humans were getting it from cats. Cats have their own flu like diseases, and so it wasn't difficult to make the jump.
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
ProPlus said:
Could it not be that the cat ate an infected bird and as such traces were found in it, it doesn't say it actually died of bird flu, it was just found dead....
But then I am a Sceptic.
No need to be a septic..... tests have now proven it was a feral cat which ate the remains of an infected bird (good riddance! feral cat that is...).
And apparently this is not unknown as there have been many reports from Asia of this transmission link (probably because the Chinese eat so many cats? Joke fellas!!!) News from my local german rag......
Marki said:
So is it Cat flu now
Cat flu is a big killer - it wiped out 4 of my parents cats in less than a month.
Infact China DID cull (ie drowned) many ferrel cats in order to stop the spread, this was then shown to be a bad mistake and would have STOPPED the spread as the birds would have been easly caught. As a political point I think the cull of every cat/dog in the UK would bring mass anger and would be avoided at cost to a mass PR disaster - remember what foot&mouth done for them!
Remember folks add up how many people have died from this and how many people live in the world.
Added: Does anyone remember that researcher dying from Rabies last year from an infected bat? Why are not all bats culled as Rabies has no cure and spreads like wildfire.
>> Edited by scared but happy on Wednesday 1st March 08:02
Yippee! Einion Yrth said:
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
That might be just about enough to bring on my own 'Falling Down' moment.
Is there something inherently wrong with me in that I'd rather see 8 million people culled than my own cat ?
Hilts said:
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
That might be just about enough to bring on my own 'Falling Down' moment.
Is there something inherently wrong with me in that I'd rather see 8 million people culled than my own cat ?
No. Animals are far nicer than people. I'd gladly go on a people cull if it was allowed. Mostly chavs.
Hilts said:
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
That might be just about enough to bring on my own 'Falling Down' moment.
Is there something inherently wrong with me in that I'd rather see 8 million people culled than my own cat ?
Nope .. generally speaking animals are much nicer than people.
Quick comment on the whole avian flu thingy....
Ok, yes cats can get it but current information says that its after full and prolonged exposure to the virus. For example, its not necessarily just eating an infected bird which puts the cat at risk - is breathing in the virus etc..... so for a domestic cat to get it? Well unless your cat is killing heavily infected birds then the risk is pretty small - to be honest you would have a garden full of dead birds and they would be dropping out of the sky before it becomes a major risk...
Secondly - yes, cats are one mammal which is susceptible to avian flu. Dogs are not necessarily (tests need to be carried out or publicised at least). Humans have been proven to be able to catch avian flu (what is it? 24 dead in China? A country of BILLIONS!!!). However for a human to catch avian flu you need PROLONGED exposure to infected birds and their heavily contaminated environments - or in other words - YOU HAVE TO BREATH IN INFECTED BIRD SHIT, and a hell of a lot of it!!!! That is why only 24 people died in China and they all had prolonged exposure to the disease - i.e. they were chicken farmers or farm hands on chicken farms, whos chickens had the virus but chose to do nothing.....
It makes a great story for the Daily Mail to tell us all that we are going to die - funny thing is that this also includes the Daily Mail jounalists too, which IMHO is a good thing....!!
Ok, yes cats can get it but current information says that its after full and prolonged exposure to the virus. For example, its not necessarily just eating an infected bird which puts the cat at risk - is breathing in the virus etc..... so for a domestic cat to get it? Well unless your cat is killing heavily infected birds then the risk is pretty small - to be honest you would have a garden full of dead birds and they would be dropping out of the sky before it becomes a major risk...
Secondly - yes, cats are one mammal which is susceptible to avian flu. Dogs are not necessarily (tests need to be carried out or publicised at least). Humans have been proven to be able to catch avian flu (what is it? 24 dead in China? A country of BILLIONS!!!). However for a human to catch avian flu you need PROLONGED exposure to infected birds and their heavily contaminated environments - or in other words - YOU HAVE TO BREATH IN INFECTED BIRD SHIT, and a hell of a lot of it!!!! That is why only 24 people died in China and they all had prolonged exposure to the disease - i.e. they were chicken farmers or farm hands on chicken farms, whos chickens had the virus but chose to do nothing.....
It makes a great story for the Daily Mail to tell us all that we are going to die - funny thing is that this also includes the Daily Mail jounalists too, which IMHO is a good thing....!!
Darth Dave said:
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
That might be just about enough to bring on my own 'Falling Down' moment.
Is there something inherently wrong with me in that I'd rather see 8 million people culled than my own cat ?
No. Animals are far nicer than people. I'd gladly go on a people cull if it was allowed. Mostly chavs.
I think your confusing animals and cats. Cats are dirty no good unPC racists. If people like animals they would not keep cats the biggest predators in this country which are killing all kinds of wildlife.
YarisSi said:
The scenario said all 8 million cats in the country were to be culled!
That might be just about enough to bring on my own 'Falling Down' moment.
Is there something inherently wrong with me in that I'd rather see 8 million people culled than my own cat ?
No. Animals are far nicer than people. I'd gladly go on a people cull if it was allowed. Mostly chavs.
I think your confusing animals and cats. Cats are dirty no good unPC racists. If people like animals they would not keep cats the biggest predators in this country which are killing all kinds of wildlife.
Utter bollox.
YarisSi said:
If people like animals they would not keep cats the biggest predators in this country which are killing all kinds of wildlife.
And I've yet to meet a human who feels the need to sh1t in the middle of my lawn.
Keeping cats is highly antisocial, but then if you prefer cats to humans, you are clearly a sociopath, so I guess there is at least some sort of logic to Hilts and Trackcar...kinda...
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