Stop the anti-car hippies canning Top Gear! Takes just 1 min
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Hi all...
As mentioned in the main "Hammond" thread, I among others am deeply concerned that the HSE, Transport Select Committee and Road Safety Lobby will seek to use the recent accident to, once again, bring pressure to bear upon the BBC to change or worse still, shelve Top Gear.
We all know they have been gunning for the show for years (the Transport Select Committee (Chaired by a woman who DOESN'T DRIVE!) had a 'pop' at them back in 1999!)
I have used the BBC official complaints process to make certain that any support is registered in exactly the same way as any criticism.
All you need to do is copy and paste the following 'letter' into the following webform:
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml
* Choose you wish to make an official complaint.
* Choose Television programmes, BBC2 and Top Gear. I simply put the "transmision date" as 20 09 06.
* I also said I wished to receive a reply.
Thanks all,
Robin
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Dear sir,
My apologies for using the official compaints process to register my feelings but I know the people who will be 'against' the programme will use this conduit so I must be certain my view is registered in the same way.
I note with a heavy heart the recent incident which has injured Richard Hammond, who is clearly a hugely popular presenter and we all hope for a full and speedy recovery.
I would like to throw my personal support behind the programme and I hope that you resist any pressures, external or internal to the corporation, which might seek to see Top Gear's format changed or worse still, removed from our screens.
Yours sincerely,
As mentioned in the main "Hammond" thread, I among others am deeply concerned that the HSE, Transport Select Committee and Road Safety Lobby will seek to use the recent accident to, once again, bring pressure to bear upon the BBC to change or worse still, shelve Top Gear.
We all know they have been gunning for the show for years (the Transport Select Committee (Chaired by a woman who DOESN'T DRIVE!) had a 'pop' at them back in 1999!)
I have used the BBC official complaints process to make certain that any support is registered in exactly the same way as any criticism.
All you need to do is copy and paste the following 'letter' into the following webform:
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml
* Choose you wish to make an official complaint.
* Choose Television programmes, BBC2 and Top Gear. I simply put the "transmision date" as 20 09 06.
* I also said I wished to receive a reply.
Thanks all,
Robin
************************************************
Dear sir,
My apologies for using the official compaints process to register my feelings but I know the people who will be 'against' the programme will use this conduit so I must be certain my view is registered in the same way.
I note with a heavy heart the recent incident which has injured Richard Hammond, who is clearly a hugely popular presenter and we all hope for a full and speedy recovery.
I would like to throw my personal support behind the programme and I hope that you resist any pressures, external or internal to the corporation, which might seek to see Top Gear's format changed or worse still, removed from our screens.
Yours sincerely,
Evil_Dr_fish said:
As mentioned in the main "Hammond" thread, I among others am deeply concerned that the HSE, Transport Select Committee and Road Safety Lobby will seek to use the recent accident to, once again, bring pressure to bear upon the BBC to change or worse still, shelve Top Gear.
I don't think so. From what I can gather,
1) All stringent safety procedures were stictly adhered to.
and
2) It wasn't done on the public highway.
Evil_Dr_fish said:
(the Transport Select Committee (Chaired by a woman who DOESN'T DRIVE!) had a 'pop' at them back in 1999!)
OK. One "pop", seven years ago. I bet they're shitting themselves.
It's OK, go back to bed, you're safe.
RE Road Safety Lobby
They should direct there madness at gatso's on wet corners. They are way more dangerous than a highly skilled bloke, getting into a highly designed car, built by highly skilled blokes, doing the business in a highly safe enviroment.
They should bitch about gatso's on wet corners. There's nothing more dangerous than approaching a corner in the wet, seeing a gatso mid- bend, then stamping on the anchors half way through the corner because you are .2mph over the limit.
Ban lentils. Starve the freaks to death.
They should piss off and save dolphins.
They should direct there madness at gatso's on wet corners. They are way more dangerous than a highly skilled bloke, getting into a highly designed car, built by highly skilled blokes, doing the business in a highly safe enviroment.
They should bitch about gatso's on wet corners. There's nothing more dangerous than approaching a corner in the wet, seeing a gatso mid- bend, then stamping on the anchors half way through the corner because you are .2mph over the limit.
Ban lentils. Starve the freaks to death.
They should piss off and save dolphins.
Edited by benzo on Thursday 21st September 18:51
Well... it has started already - the various news programmes are already starting to present the cotton-wool-brigade's view of things.
...and to Sciroccology - I have been working in teh House of Commons for about 10 years now, I am the parliamentary assistant to one of the most senior and longest serving MPs in the country. YES there are elements of the Transport Select Committee who are deeply 'anti-car' and ARE still after them and yes they will be out to have a pop at Top Gear at the first opportunity they get. Transport2000 will be in there at the frist opportunity they get also.
Incidentally - no they don't just 'add up' complaints - the official complaint procedure is extremely formalised and cannot be swept under the carpet.
I made a formal complaint once before and received a 'real' reply from a human being!
I always take the view - If you've done nothing and not tried then you have absolutely forego ALL bitching rights in perpetuity should the consequence be one you don't like.
(ie If you like the show and want to keep it, try to do something about it or don't complain if they can it)
...and to Sciroccology - I have been working in teh House of Commons for about 10 years now, I am the parliamentary assistant to one of the most senior and longest serving MPs in the country. YES there are elements of the Transport Select Committee who are deeply 'anti-car' and ARE still after them and yes they will be out to have a pop at Top Gear at the first opportunity they get. Transport2000 will be in there at the frist opportunity they get also.
Incidentally - no they don't just 'add up' complaints - the official complaint procedure is extremely formalised and cannot be swept under the carpet.
I made a formal complaint once before and received a 'real' reply from a human being!
I always take the view - If you've done nothing and not tried then you have absolutely forego ALL bitching rights in perpetuity should the consequence be one you don't like.
(ie If you like the show and want to keep it, try to do something about it or don't complain if they can it)
Edited by evil_dr_fish on Thursday 21st September 20:11
Well it didn't take the Trotskyite muppets at the Guardian long to get in on the act:
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/s
When the counterrevolution comes smarmy gits such as this guy should be amongst the first up against the wall...
Some funny responses though..
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/s
When the counterrevolution comes smarmy gits such as this guy should be amongst the first up against the wall...
Some funny responses though..
What irritates me about this is the fact that the car Hammond crashed is barely a 'car'. The physics and dynamics are absolutely nothing like a car that would get the usual safety lobby up in arms because it has a jet engine, a parachute for brakes, and a butterfly tiller for steering, and it does 300 mph. This accident has absolutely no basis in 'speed kills' propaganda as no-one drives jet-powered dragsters down the road.
Anyone hijacking this for 'speed kills' reasons are sick opportunists.
Anyone hijacking this for 'speed kills' reasons are sick opportunists.
Guardian forum said:
Jeremy Clarkson should be sued for gross negligence. He was always bullying Hammond and forcing him to do crap gigs like speeding through fjords in the middle of winter in overpowered zodiacs whose engines kept blowing while he "raced" him in a Jag. Hammond was frozen, blasted with lightning, you name it. All because Jeremy's bigger, more famous, and richer, natch. Something was bound to happen sooner or later.
lol. The stupidity of some people is astounding.
benzo said:
................They should bitch about gatso's on wet corners. There's nothing more dangerous than approaching a corner in the wet, seeing a gatso mid- bend, then stamping on the anchors half way through the corner because you are .2mph over the limit.....
Drive within the speed limit then! A real no-brainer there.
You don't drink and drive, mug old ladies, shoplift etc, so what makes it okay to break speed laws then complain when YOUR actions cause accidents?
twincam16 said:
What irritates me about this is the fact that the car Hammond crashed is barely a 'car'. The physics and dynamics are absolutely nothing like a car that would get the usual safety lobby up in arms because it has a jet engine, a parachute for brakes, and a butterfly tiller for steering, and it does 300 mph. This accident has absolutely no basis in 'speed kills' propaganda as no-one drives jet-powered dragsters down the road.
Anyone hijacking this for 'speed kills' reasons are sick opportunists.
Anyone hijacking this for 'speed kills' reasons are sick opportunists.
Very true.
its perhaps a media sensation that the anti driving monsters have hijacked for there own cause
Your dead right. A bloke driving a jet car has nothing in common with a bloke driving to work.
Its in the media though. Thats perhaps a passport for these types to get there message accross.
just a thought
King Herald said:
benzo said:
................They should bitch about gatso's on wet corners. There's nothing more dangerous than approaching a corner in the wet, seeing a gatso mid- bend, then stamping on the anchors half way through the corner because you are .2mph over the limit.....
Drive within the speed limit then! A real no-brainer there.
You don't drink and drive, mug old ladies, shoplift etc, so what makes it okay to break speed laws then complain when YOUR actions cause accidents?
Read closely!
I Stated .2mph not 20mph
have you never done 31mph in a 30?
your either a liar or a weirdo!
Edited by benzo on Thursday 21st September 20:56
Christ almighty some idiots read the guardian. What planet are these people on?
guardian reader said:
Jeremy Clarkson should be sued for gross negligence. He was always bullying Hammond and forcing him to do crap gigs like speeding through fjords in the middle of winter in overpowered zodiacs whose engines kept blowing while he "raced" him in a Jag. Hammond was frozen, blasted with lightning, you name it. All because Jeremy's bigger, more famous, and richer, natch. Something was bound to happen sooner or later.
benzo said:
King Herald said:
benzo said:
................They should bitch about gatso's on wet corners. There's nothing more dangerous than approaching a corner in the wet, seeing a gatso mid- bend, then stamping on the anchors half way through the corner because you are .2mph over the limit.....
Drive within the speed limit then! A real no-brainer there.
You don't drink and drive, mug old ladies, shoplift etc, so what makes it okay to break speed laws then complain when YOUR actions cause accidents?
Read closely!
I Stated .2mph not 20mph
have you never done 31mph in a 30?
your either a liar or a weirdo!
Edited by benzo on Thursday 21st September 20:56
Yes, I can read, and 0.2mph, 20.2mph, whatever! If you actually knew how fast you were going, if you knew the current speed limit of the road you were on, if you were aware of your surroundings, if you were paying attention there would be no need to 'stomp on your brakes' at all, would there?????
King Herald said:
benzo said:
King Herald said:
benzo said:
................They should bitch about gatso's on wet corners. There's nothing more dangerous than approaching a corner in the wet, seeing a gatso mid- bend, then stamping on the anchors half way through the corner because you are .2mph over the limit.....
Drive within the speed limit then! A real no-brainer there.
You don't drink and drive, mug old ladies, shoplift etc, so what makes it okay to break speed laws then complain when YOUR actions cause accidents?
Read closely!
I Stated .2mph not 20mph
have you never done 31mph in a 30?
your either a liar or a weirdo!
Edited by benzo on Thursday 21st September 20:56
Yes, I can read, and 0.2mph, 20.2mph, whatever! If you actually knew how fast you were going, if you knew the current speed limit of the road you were on, if you were aware of your surroundings, if you were paying attention there would be no need to 'stomp on your brakes' at all, would there?????
If there is a camera anywhere and I'm in the car with my Nan, she touches the brakes no matter what speed she is doing its a natural reaction for for pretty much anyone and its those people who will be injured/killed if speed cameras are placed in "strategical" places
zoidberg said:
Christ almighty some idiots read the guardian. What planet are these people on?
guardian reader said:
Jeremy Clarkson should be sued for gross negligence. He was always bullying Hammond and forcing him to do crap gigs like speeding through fjords in the middle of winter in overpowered zodiacs whose engines kept blowing while he "raced" him in a Jag. Hammond was frozen, blasted with lightning, you name it. All because Jeremy's bigger, more famous, and richer, natch. Something was bound to happen sooner or later.
I think the planet 'flibble' they've taken the three seater carpet to go visit the potato king.
Indeed, Clarkson is an evil bully and the fact that Hammond is more often than not seen grinning his head off whilst doing stuff is down to post-production and clever edits. *shakes head* But it's all the fault of the space vampires that force Clarkson to be that way you know?
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