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A scammer is using car forums to sell 'a garage full of parts'... his reason for selling is that his wife/girlfriend wants rid of all the parts and he needs the money to finish his Land Rover.
The parts for sale are sought after and all listed cheaply with delivery included... payment is by PayPal only.
He has appeared on various forums of late and recently did an Escort forum out of at least £1000!
His IP address traces back to an NTL IP in the Northampton area and Northampton Police have already opened a case file on him.
He lists his addresses as:
31 west walk
corby old village
corby
northants
and his inlaws live at
1 west view
corby old village
corby
northants
nn17 1as
Although these addresses are false.
His PayPal account was under the address:
mmdines-666@hotmail.co.uk
Using the names Mark Dines and Martin (or Martyn) Dines.
PLEASE BE VERY WARY OF NEW MEMBERS OFFERING PARTS AT TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE PRICES! If you aren't sure about a member selling parts, please contact the forum mods.
Thank for reading this and be careful out there. If you know any other forums that could benefit from this info, please pass it on.
Courtesy of VW forum.
The parts for sale are sought after and all listed cheaply with delivery included... payment is by PayPal only.
He has appeared on various forums of late and recently did an Escort forum out of at least £1000!
His IP address traces back to an NTL IP in the Northampton area and Northampton Police have already opened a case file on him.
He lists his addresses as:
31 west walk
corby old village
corby
northants
and his inlaws live at
1 west view
corby old village
corby
northants
nn17 1as
Although these addresses are false.
His PayPal account was under the address:
mmdines-666@hotmail.co.uk
Using the names Mark Dines and Martin (or Martyn) Dines.
PLEASE BE VERY WARY OF NEW MEMBERS OFFERING PARTS AT TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE PRICES! If you aren't sure about a member selling parts, please contact the forum mods.
Thank for reading this and be careful out there. If you know any other forums that could benefit from this info, please pass it on.
Courtesy of VW forum.
Wow. Just read through all of that lot and come to a few conclusions:
1) Online 'friends' or virtual 'friends' can easily lead you into a false sense of security.
2) Paypal is an arse - maybe ok on ebay where you can use it to add to the the confidence that ebay gives you with feedback etc, but to use it outside of ebay is risky at best and downright dodgy at worse - the very idea of paying someone you have never met for something you have never seen, and then waiting for it to appear 'as if by magic' is seriously flawed.
3) PH's page layout is class compared to the other forums. Reading through that lot gave me a serious headache trying to trawl though the garbled mess of posts
4) I have a large collection of Rolls Royce Merlin engines and a TVR stuck in a field and I don't have room to keep my B45 bomber under cover. Please email me for a list; it's all going cheap
1) Online 'friends' or virtual 'friends' can easily lead you into a false sense of security.
2) Paypal is an arse - maybe ok on ebay where you can use it to add to the the confidence that ebay gives you with feedback etc, but to use it outside of ebay is risky at best and downright dodgy at worse - the very idea of paying someone you have never met for something you have never seen, and then waiting for it to appear 'as if by magic' is seriously flawed.
3) PH's page layout is class compared to the other forums. Reading through that lot gave me a serious headache trying to trawl though the garbled mess of posts
4) I have a large collection of Rolls Royce Merlin engines and a TVR stuck in a field and I don't have room to keep my B45 bomber under cover. Please email me for a list; it's all going cheap
SS HSV said:
Wow. Just read through all of that lot and come to a few conclusions:
1) Online 'friends' or virtual 'friends' can easily lead you into a false sense of security.
2) Paypal is an arse - maybe ok on ebay where you can use it to add to the the confidence that ebay gives you with feedback etc, but to use it outside of ebay is risky at best and downright dodgy at worse - the very idea of paying someone you have never met for something you have never seen, and then waiting for it to appear 'as if by magic' is seriously flawed.
3) PH's page layout is class compared to the other forums. Reading through that lot gave me a serious headache trying to trawl though the garbled mess of posts
4) I have a large collection of Rolls Royce Merlin engines and a TVR stuck in a field and I don't have room to keep my B45 bomber under cover. Please email me for a list; it's all going cheap
1) Online 'friends' or virtual 'friends' can easily lead you into a false sense of security.
2) Paypal is an arse - maybe ok on ebay where you can use it to add to the the confidence that ebay gives you with feedback etc, but to use it outside of ebay is risky at best and downright dodgy at worse - the very idea of paying someone you have never met for something you have never seen, and then waiting for it to appear 'as if by magic' is seriously flawed.
3) PH's page layout is class compared to the other forums. Reading through that lot gave me a serious headache trying to trawl though the garbled mess of posts
4) I have a large collection of Rolls Royce Merlin engines and a TVR stuck in a field and I don't have room to keep my B45 bomber under cover. Please email me for a list; it's all going cheap
Excellent post.
SS2. said:
Criminals really are thick!! Let's assume that he scammeds people out of, say, £5k. Eventually plod will catch up with him via his IP address, Paypal and various witnesses. So, crim eventually gets, I don't know, two years inside. His £5k is worth £2.5k per annum!!! You get more on the dole! As such, one can only assume that it's Darwinism in action I reckon.
srebbe64 said:
Criminals really are thick!! Let's assume that he scammeds people out of, say, £5k. Eventually plod will catch up with him via his IP address, Paypal and various witnesses. So, crim eventually gets, I don't know, two years inside. His £5k is worth £2.5k per annum!!! You get more on the dole! As such, one can only assume that it's Darwinism in action I reckon.
It is quite amusing. I wouldn't even get out of bed for under £100k and minimal risk. Crime really doesn't pay
Dave
srebbe64 said:
Criminals really are thick!! Let's assume that he scammeds people out of, say, £5k. Eventually plod will catch up with him via his IP address, Paypal and various witnesses. So, crim eventually gets, I don't know, two years inside. His £5k is worth £2.5k per annum!!! You get more on the dole! As such, one can only assume that it's Darwinism in action I reckon.
Unfortunately unlikely, my father is a credit manager and has lists of addresses in South East London (Greenwich, Shooters Hill etc) where repeated credit card frauds are being carried out, the values of which run to many thousands of pounds. Some addresses have been used for up to two years without being shut down. He has got to the point of not even bothering to report the daily attempts to rip his employers off as he knows nothing will ever come of it. At one point he had a fraud ongoing where the total value was towards £750k and yet he couldn't get the local police to take any interest and the Serious Fraud Office told him unless he got to a total of £1m or more it was not a job for them
This was despite us having collected enough evidence to narrow the fraud down to 3 people and one address. Furthermore the suggestion that the perpetrators of such a scam will get 2 years jail is also wishful thinking. More likely some crappy "community sentence".
I'd love to be more positive, my brother is a bobby and I know they have a tough job to do but the policies that are handed down to them make me sick.
by any chance does anyone want any spare parts ive got knocking around the garage, they include:
- a complete enzo engine
- a complete enzo body including interior
- a speed 12 that needs a new diffuser
- an lp640 missing 1 wheel
- a mini
i think about 500 quid would be about right
just send payments to TooGoodToBeTrue@hotmail.com
remember if it sound too good to be true only pay in cash in person with a baseball bat in the boot.
- a complete enzo engine
- a complete enzo body including interior
- a speed 12 that needs a new diffuser
- an lp640 missing 1 wheel
- a mini
i think about 500 quid would be about right
just send payments to TooGoodToBeTrue@hotmail.com
remember if it sound too good to be true only pay in cash in person with a baseball bat in the boot.
tbops said:
by any chance does anyone want any spare parts ive got knocking around the garage, they include:
- a complete enzo engine
- a complete enzo body including interior
- a speed 12 that needs a new diffuser
- an lp640 missing 1 wheel
- a mini
i think about 500 quid would be about right
just send payments to TooGoodToBeTrue@hotmail.com
remember if it sound too good to be true only pay in cash in person with a baseball bat in the boot.
- a complete enzo engine
- a complete enzo body including interior
- a speed 12 that needs a new diffuser
- an lp640 missing 1 wheel
- a mini
i think about 500 quid would be about right
just send payments to TooGoodToBeTrue@hotmail.com
remember if it sound too good to be true only pay in cash in person with a baseball bat in the boot.
I'll give you £450 to get them off your hands!
cirks said:
was it just me that thought when I read the original post on the ford forum that "that guy is either a) a breaker or b) a thief" ? Feel sorry for the guys that got stung but it definately looked odd from the word go.
His selection of parts did look very "as if"...
I just never pay and expect. If it's close I'll go along with cash, if not hard luck. Sending money especially by paypal is just a bit silly, especially to a new member like that.
Hey, we all live and learn
Dave
road2ruin said:
Mr Whippy said:
I just never pay and expect. If it's close I'll go along with cash, if not hard luck.
Hey, we all live and learn
Dave
So you pay by cash do you? Let me know where and when you will be out with a ton in your pocket i'll meet you. I need some money to pay me car tax.
You go to take a look, don't mention money. I often go look, then drive to a cash machine locally anyway.
And surely ABH/assault is a little bit more criminal than the easy fishing that is paypal fraud? I don't think people who will resort to physical violence and robbery would advertise on a public forum would they? We think this guy was stupid, doing the above is even more dumb for a few hundred quid
I guess if you make yourself a victim then it's another lesson to learn, but I prefer looking into the whites of people's eyes when handing over my wonga
Dave
Edited by Mr Whippy on Friday 23 March 16:08
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