Exige S1 over-winter Refresh

Exige S1 over-winter Refresh

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Esprit

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284 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Thanks for the feedback Thumbs.

Yes, I could rapid prototype up the buck, and I will if I run into problems making the buck from wood, but for now I'm enjoying the challenge of doing a bunch of stuff by hand I've absolutely no idea how to do.... the challenge and self-teaching is part of the process.

I'm in no hurry now... as it stands the car won't be ready until April/May (mid autumn here) so there's no point rushing to get it finished in time to sit in the garage over winter. From now on I'm taking my time to get things sorted. Having said this, the car should be almost back on its wheels before too long smile

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Well a VERY VERY VERY big day today, not in so much that I got a lot done, but more in what today represents... a very very special part of any rebuild. Today was the day when my car hit the turning point. To this point it's all been dismantling/cleaning/prepping/refurbishing, but today I finally started on the long-overdue REASSEMBLY!

I've been saying for months now that "next week or two I should be able to start bolting things back together" but it never quite happened, I always found something else to pull apart or work on, but I'm at the stage now where it really is time for some stuff to be reunited again.

First a couple of pics of the mess so far... really not a lot of difference from the pics I first took last may really, although a LOT of work has gone on since:





Still not really looking much at all like a car, but what's there now is clean as a whistle, fully fettled and ready to start becoming a car again.

Today I finished cleaning up the chassis around the engine bay and then began a couple of hours sorting through all my new fasteners. I've got the bulk of them now but am still missing a few so it's not quite all smooth sailing.

First job was to re-mount the rear lower wishbone mounts, which had the honour of being the first thing to go back onto the chassis.. and here they are in all their refurbished glory:



Then, a slightly more substantial part to go back on was the shiny, re-galvanised rear subframe. Bolted up a treat after I'd spent a bit of time cleaning and re-tapping some holes that were a bit blocked up with extra zinc! Still a long way to go to become a car but she looks better than she did this morning! smile





Tomorrow I hope to get a few more fasteners (hoping my supplier is open on a Saturday morning!) and I will mount the rear wishbones. I will also mount the front lower wishbones, but I can't mount the upper ones as my new castor shims (I'm having some stainless ones laser cut along with my new camber shims) aren't ready until early next week.

We're on our way.... FINALLY! smile

21TonyK

11,592 posts

210 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I just hope for your sake you don't end up with a jam jar of bits left over!

/wish I had the time for a project like this, fantastic stuff.

Esprit

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284 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Hehe there will be many jam jars left over when I'm done... so many of the bits (small bits, consumables and fasteners) are being replaced there'll be bucketloads of double-ups. In the end though, the car's nice and simple, I've got all the workshop and parts manuals so I know exactly what needs to go where and fear not, the reassembly will be just as methodical as the rest of the project has been up until this point smile

griffter

3,992 posts

256 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I like your impressive selection of 'fine adjustment tools' hanging towards the left of your tool rack.

Good luck with the rebuild!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Excellent - bits going on rather than off biggrin

What are you doing to do with the bodywork? As the car is so "apart" will you be sending clam and panels off to be sprayed, or is the paint in good condition? (apologies if you've covered this already in the thread)

cyberface

12,214 posts

258 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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This is bloody excellent, right proper job smile Also a way to get vicarious pleasure from a strip and rebuild that I'd not have the balls to do myself - many thanks mate!

Not only do I not have a garage or the requisite tools and mechanical skills (though I'm sure part of the process teaches you the necessary skills), but I also know damn well what I'd want to 'rebuild' which would probably offend many Lotus types on here...

...basically I didn't get on with my S1 Elise but I *loved* the VX220 turbo and I have similarly fallen in love with my S2 Exige. But the thing is that the S2 Exige weighs a tonne (literally - 930 kg with 69 kg of cyberface makes nearly a nice round tonne). I'd love a completely rebuilt S1 Exige like yours, but with the fact that the S1 weighs so little to begin with, and the fact that I don't really get on with *hugely* noisy and rough cars, would tempt me very seriously at looking into doing a 'hybrid' S2/S1 Exige - no not a battery powered Tesla clone, but an S1 Exige with (shock horror) some of the S2 'touring pack' features bolted in. Comfy seats, some of the noise deadening, snap-off wheel, just enough of the 'taming' stuff to get the car as quiet as a VXT really. Then redress the balance by hoiking out the K series and dropping an Audi turbo in there smile It wouldn't end up anywhere near as heavy as an S2 Exige but would definitely be heavier than your car. Still, an extra 100 kg is only a rugby-playing passenger and can easily be neutralised with a big engine... wink

It seems to me that when you do a nuts-and-bolts rebuild ('refresh' doesn't go far enough!) like this, you may as well go the whole hog and either keep it as original as possible (like you) or turn it into the Lotus you *really* wanted (as per my mad idea). I'd love a Lotus where I knew that all the fixtures and fasteners were high-grade stainless, where all exposed aluminium was painted in super-tough POR-15, and I simply knew that it'd be more reliable, tougher and last longer than any factory car. Alas I don't live in NZ and besides, I'd want to drive this beastie year-round - a corrosion-protected and stainless-bolted Exige S1 would be heaven, as long as my little mods are catered for smile

I wonder whether by the time I'm old enough to have the time and property to embark on a brilliant experience like this (maybe 'if' rather than 'when'...) that restorable S1 Exiges are available at acceptable prices, and whether cars like that are possible to run on the roads... for now I'll have to make do with what Lotus sell, thankfully their current offerings are pretty well screwed together compared to yesteryear...

Kiwi XTR2

2,693 posts

233 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Congratulations dude

Probably the most unusual, but most satisfying way to celebrate Waitangi Day. thumbup

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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griffter said:
I like your impressive selection of 'fine adjustment tools' hanging towards the left of your tool rack.

Good luck with the rebuild!
They are the tools of torture I shall use on myself if things go tits-up with the rebuild wink

TonyHetherington said:
Excellent - bits going on rather than off biggrin

What are you doing to do with the bodywork? As the car is so "apart" will you be sending clam and panels off to be sprayed, or is the paint in good condition? (apologies if you've covered this already in the thread)
The bodywork will just be going back as-is at the moment. The paint's in pretty good condition although the front and sills have their fair share of stonechips (NZ roads are KILLER for these). I WILL be giving the car a respray (in original Titanium) and armourfending it at some point, probably over next winter once the finances have recovered from this phase. Given that whipping the clams off isn't something that really daunts me any more, I'll tackle it as a separate phase later on.

cyberface said:
This is bloody excellent, right proper job smile Also a way to get vicarious pleasure from a strip and rebuild that I'd not have the balls to do myself - many thanks mate!

Not only do I not have a garage or the requisite tools and mechanical skills (though I'm sure part of the process teaches you the necessary skills), but I also know damn well what I'd want to 'rebuild' which would probably offend many Lotus types on here...

...basically I didn't get on with my S1 Elise but I *loved* the VX220 turbo and I have similarly fallen in love with my S2 Exige. But the thing is that the S2 Exige weighs a tonne (literally - 930 kg with 69 kg of cyberface makes nearly a nice round tonne). I'd love a completely rebuilt S1 Exige like yours, but with the fact that the S1 weighs so little to begin with, and the fact that I don't really get on with *hugely* noisy and rough cars, would tempt me very seriously at looking into doing a 'hybrid' S2/S1 Exige - no not a battery powered Tesla clone, but an S1 Exige with (shock horror) some of the S2 'touring pack' features bolted in. Comfy seats, some of the noise deadening, snap-off wheel, just enough of the 'taming' stuff to get the car as quiet as a VXT really. Then redress the balance by hoiking out the K series and dropping an Audi turbo in there smile It wouldn't end up anywhere near as heavy as an S2 Exige but would definitely be heavier than your car. Still, an extra 100 kg is only a rugby-playing passenger and can easily be neutralised with a big engine... wink

It seems to me that when you do a nuts-and-bolts rebuild ('refresh' doesn't go far enough!) like this, you may as well go the whole hog and either keep it as original as possible (like you) or turn it into the Lotus you *really* wanted (as per my mad idea). I'd love a Lotus where I knew that all the fixtures and fasteners were high-grade stainless, where all exposed aluminium was painted in super-tough POR-15, and I simply knew that it'd be more reliable, tougher and last longer than any factory car. Alas I don't live in NZ and besides, I'd want to drive this beastie year-round - a corrosion-protected and stainless-bolted Exige S1 would be heaven, as long as my little mods are catered for smile

I wonder whether by the time I'm old enough to have the time and property to embark on a brilliant experience like this (maybe 'if' rather than 'when'...) that restorable S1 Exiges are available at acceptable prices, and whether cars like that are possible to run on the roads... for now I'll have to make do with what Lotus sell, thankfully their current offerings are pretty well screwed together compared to yesteryear...
Cyberface, it sounds like you've got the right idea with your desired project. Don't worry about offending anyone, just do what you want to do... it's not as if you're butchering the car with chavvy lights and stuff smile Either way you'll probably not start with an Exige in the first place but convert a base Elise and put the Exige body on it. That way ends up being cheaper and you're not hacking apart a rather more rare Exige... but what you propose is certainly possible. There's a guy in Oz (Sport400 on SELOC) who has just built himself the tastiest carbonfibre-bodied Exige S1 replica from an Elise with an Audi Turbo engine in it and the thing is indecently quick. From that point on it'd be nothing to add a wad of extra sound deadening and some nice audio and probax seats etc to make it a little more plush.

For me personally, I love my Exige the way it is. To me it represents pretty much THE most hardcore you can go with a car. I know you can go to Caterhams/Ariels etc but these I don't really view so much as cars. The Exige I could still convince a girlfriend (if I so had one) to come touring for a week in.... it's still got a real roof and doors, I doubt I'd be able to manage that in anything more stripped out.

It's strange how you didn't get on with your S1 Elise, I loved mine and after driving it again at Christmas it really is a fantastic car... there's no way I'd have sold it if my hand hadn't been forced with the Exige. Having said that, I've driven some Elises which felt a lot worse than my old one to drive, I'm guessing that not all of them are built the same. What I DO really love about the Exige that the Elise couldn't deliver is that while the Elise was VERY competent and challenging to drive, the Exige just has this way of completely immersing you in it.... it's grumpy, temperamental and unreliable (hell, my first touring journey on it ended on a low-loader) but STILL I loved the thing.... if my Elise had behaved similarly I think the shine would have worn off it, but with the Exige..... well it's just got this charm that means I can forgive it almost anything.

Kylie

4,391 posts

258 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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Congrats George I am so pleased for you and cant wait to join you for one of your first outings in it, keep the pics coming smile

Esprit

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284 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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And on tonight's episode of "PIMP MY WISHBONES"





Got the first rear ones hung tonight and they look even sexier on the car than they did sat on the floor! smile I can't fully hang them or go much further as it seems I'm missing a bunch of the bolts I need to do it so can't go much further now sadly. I'm sure I'll find plenty to keep me busy while I get them though.

S Works

10,166 posts

251 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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Fantastic. Now the REALLY interesting stuff happens. Good going George, that car's going to be better than when it left Hethel thumbup

CooperS

4,509 posts

220 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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fantastic rebuild, its so enjoyable reading updates.


Was one of your aims to have this in better nic than when it left the showroom?



Esprit

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284 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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Cheers Tim... I'm not sure about being better than when it left Hethel, but it'll certainly be close and hopefully much more prepared to withstand the rigours of use smile

CooperS .... originally the aim was just to tidy up the suspension and get it protected again as the plating had gone through and the wishbones were beginning to rust. I decided to replace all the consumables (bushes, balljoints, TREs drop links etc) at the same time as that just made sense.... that was all I planned to do.

Then as fate would have it, just before I started stripping it back, the engine started making some concerning noises so the decision was made to pull that out as well and get it to bits for some exploratory heart surgery.... It was at that point that I decided that since the chassis was pretty much empty and the car was going to be off the road for a while that I may as well put some REAL effort into getting the car as close to perfect (under the skin at least) as it can be and, so far at least, I'm awfully pleased with how it's going.

nzsimon

22 posts

187 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Good to see I am not the only magpie

paulrhodes

1,810 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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Gutted! I can't read the ending! lol

i've just read this from start to finish and it's fascinating. Congratulations on such a great job.

Very much looking forward to seeing it all complete. I'm going to make this page a bookmark.

Esprit

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284 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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nzsimon said:
Good to see I am not the only magpie
Shiny things do have their place Simon smile Mine is FAR from shiny when compared to yours though... the underside of your rig is a work of art!

paulrhodes said:
Gutted! I can't read the ending! lol

i've just read this from start to finish and it's fascinating. Congratulations on such a great job.

Very much looking forward to seeing it all complete. I'm going to make this page a bookmark.
Cheers Paul, Glad you got some entertainment out of it.... it'll be finished eventually, and like all good stories it has its ups and downs and leaves the reader in suspense wink

Esprit

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6,370 posts

284 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Frustratingly little progress of late. Work has been INSANE and to be honest, after working from 8 in the morning until midnight, I don't much feel like popping out to the garage for a couple of hours. When I DO get a day off it's been spent mainly in bed catching up on sleep!

Still, I've been working away at getting together more bits I'm missing.

Another consignment of fasteners has arrived from Lotus courtesy of the fine lads at Bell & Colvill. Geary at Eliseparts is also sending me the remainder of my fastener set which was missed in the last shipment.

I've also been trying to get together the necessary adhesives and primers to bond on the rear longerons. After much searching I managed to find all the components locally. I had hoped to be bonding them on this weekend and completing the boot floor but thanks to the global recession and cost-cutting, most fastener places here aren't open Saturday mornings now... which is a MAJOR piss-off as it means MORE time during the week I have to spend f*cking around getting stuff.

Anyway, this weekend I got all the plinths bolted onto the balljoints as well as a bunch of custom fasteners turned up in the lathe... these were just a bunch of non-standard length bolts I needed that I've shortened down from longer ones.

Another job, which took a lot longer than expected was to clean up the rear longerons. Getting all the old glue off and getting them cleaned up was a mission and a half. Much elbow grease later though they're as good as new and ready to bond on as soon as I get my missing rivets.






Hopefully more progress by next weekend.

Edited by Esprit on Sunday 1st March 13:04

Esprit

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284 months

Saturday 14th March 2009
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Well time marches on and progress of late has been slow. Still working insane hours and been suffering a bit of ill health lately (damned viruses), which have kept me outta the garage. Have been doing a lot of behind-the-scenes work though getting fasteners sorted (I've now got a full compliment of all the right ones I need to finish the rolling chassis) and also sourcing the glue / primers to bond the rear longerons back on again.

I WAS going to bond the Longerons back on this afternoon but I didn't have a rivet gun large enough for the 1/4 stainless rivets that clamp the longerons down. I borrowed my boss's industrial lazy-tong rivet gun and duly broke that (oops, sorry boss) so I didn't manage to get it done today. Off to Hirepool first thing in the morning though to hire a compressor and a 1/4" pneumatic rivet gun so that'll deal to the bds.

Got everything mocked up though and it all fits together! smile (I shouldn't sound so surprised).





Fingers crossed by the end of play tomorrow I should have the rear end structure including the boot floor all bonded in place and finally sorted, the rollbar backstays bolted and torqued and all of the wishbones (bar one, which needs a new balljoint after I accidentally buggered one of the threads.... (don't ask) hung on the chassis and torqued on. All of the shock mounts should also be hung on the chassis as well as the front ARB.... tomorrow will be a busy day! smile

On the engine front, the wonderful Mr DVA had just about finished my head. It's now fully ported with Colisbro Bronze valve guides, new stem seals, larger Paul Ivey valves, dual valve springs with stock VHPD solid lifters. Everything's all ready to bolt together although I decided to have the camshafts (Piper ARK1444s) and vernier pulleys balanced as a precautionary measure... I know balancing cams is complete overkill, but given how much I'm spending on balancing the bottom end, the paltry sum to balance the cams too seemed like a complete no-brainer.

Crankshaft has been drilled and now tungsten inserted by Mr Steve Smith at Vibration Free and is just awaiting balancing with the lower assembly (Crank, Flywheel, Clutch Cover, Crank Pulley, Cam Drive Sprocket, plus rods and pistons).

Once this is done, my head will be built up, and then I'll be getting everything back to NZ along with a full engine rebuild kit (including new liners, uprated oil-rail etc) so that i can begin engine reassembly.

Still a long ways to go, but as we enter autumn here, I'm not too worried about deadlines so long as it's ready for springtime smile In another couple of weeks it'll have been a year since I started what was going to be "just a suspension refresh"..... my how these things get out of hand!

Esprit

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284 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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Well it's been a frustrating week (yes, another one!). I made preparations to hire a suitably-sized rivet gun and the required compressor this weekend, all sure that I'd have this infernal rear subframe job FINALLY finished this weekend come hell or high water, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Predicatably, all mother of cock-ups has resulted in it still being unfinished.

This morning I started in the garage, full of hope. Tested the rivet gun on a spare rivet and it worked perfectly, FINALLY I was going to finish the job. I loaded the sikaflex in the caulking gun and applied a bead as described in the Lotus Service Notes, I hooked on the longeron and then installed the boot floor and then shot in three rivets.... easy, job done!

But... then I noticed the boot floor was still free to move about a little. Inspecting the rivets (that I'd sized from the Lotus Parts catalogue) were too long to grip and were loose in the holes as a consequence. So now I had sikaflex going off, with an improperly clamped joint!

I had some shorter rivets I bought as a backup (but only had four instead of the six required for the job), so I tested them when I installed the left-hand Longeron. I again applied the requisite bead of sikaflex and shot three rivets through and voilà! Perfection!

Now, I had to then drill out the too-long rivets on the otherside and find a way to temporarily clamp the longeron so the glue would bond correctly. Now these rivets are stainless (read, HARD) and since they were loose in the holes they just spun... GAH!

However, after much swearing, I dug out the trusty Dremel and with a small cutting disc attached, I managed to gradually mangulate (yes that is a word dammit!) the head enough so that I could punch it through. This took at least an hour to do all three rivets as it took GREAT care to cut the rivets without touching the boot floor.... today I had hands like a neurosurgeon!

With the rivets finally removed, I was able to temporarily install some M6 machine screws to clamp the joint sufficiently to allow the bonded joint to form properly. Now I need to waste MORE time (and money) tracking down further supply of the shorter rivets during a lunch break this week as well as popping back next Friday to re-hire the pneumatic rivet gun (at a cost of about $100 (that's about 35 quid to you Brits) and compressor to bang in the final two rivets to complete the job! F*$#ing annoying!

This rear subframe re-galving has turned out to be one of the worst bits of the whole job so far. It wasn't really a necessary (the subframe was in fair shape, but I decided to do it because it was easy and accessible only in the current state of disassembly. The job was budgeted at about $150 (50 quid) all up, but I think the costs add up to the following:

Acid-Stripping $50
Galvanising $40
Sikaflex and Primers $130
Rivets $35
Rivet Gun ($65x2 = $130)
Compressor ($35x2 = $70)
Petrol and running around to various places (2 tanks in all, @$70 per tank = $140)

= $595 total which is about 200 quid. This assumes I WILL actually finish the job next weekend (bear in mind I've not reattached the heat shield yet) and bills my time out at $0... so not really the cheap and easy job I've hoped for.

Still, I'm sure that when the car's finished, it'll be something I won't have regretted doing and the extra bling of a nice shiny, new-looking subframe will allow me to sleep well at night.... I hope.

Still, chin up eh? smile