The Rover is dead. Long live the Rover!

The Rover is dead. Long live the Rover!

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tyre_tread

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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pupp said:

It's either a case of kicking yourself for not just doing the extra, or kicking yourself for wasting money doing more than you really needed to for the same overall result. Having said that, there is no 'right' or 'wrong' approach ..............


I have achieved no progress on the Rover today except to price up the parts to either build, upgrade or replace the engine.

I have achieved the realisation that I have reached a situation of paralysis by analysis. In other words, I still don't know what to do for the best.

However Pupp is spot on in the excerpt of his quote above.

Having heard about the size of the bill to replace the cams on a Cerbera the complete new P5B Engine sounds like a steal!

I will be at the trading post tomorrow and will bring along some oily bits to view and discuss. Perhaps we can have a mass debate?

tonyvid

9,870 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd February 2007
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tyre_tread said:

I have achieved the realisation that I have reached a situation of paralysis by analysis. In other words, I still don't know what to do for the best.

Perhaps we can have a mass debate?




The first bit, what a lovely expression

The second bit...yikes

tyre_tread

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Thursday 22nd February 2007
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tonyvid said:
tyre_tread said:

I have achieved the realisation that I have reached a situation of paralysis by analysis. In other words, I still don't know what to do for the best.

Perhaps we can have a mass debate?




The first bit, what a lovely expression

The second bit...yikes


Tonyvid, you have a bad mind (well done) hehe

tyre_tread

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Monday 26th February 2007
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Not a good day today - quite frustating as the old boy would not give up the sump bolts or the starter motor without a fight. although I got all of the bolts out I still haven't managed to remove the sump as the steering arm is in the way so I'll wait until the engine is out to check the crank bearings and make a decision.

My trip to the Lucas agents in Kretterin was also a wash out trying to source a replacement alternator - I have done some more research tonight and may have another little trip tomorrow.

Burlen want £215.00 to refurb the carbs yikes

No piccies as no real progress to see yet./

b.johnson

1,091 posts

216 months

Monday 26th February 2007
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If you need a hand let me know......

tyre_tread

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Monday 26th February 2007
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b.johnson said:
If you need a hand let me know......


Thanks Ben - appreciated.

I take it the move went Ok and you manged to move the settee?

b.johnson

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216 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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Just, we got all the big bits out over the weekend, now its just a case of filling the cars with all the other stuff binbags full of clothes and kitchen equipment.

tyre_tread

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Tuesday 27th February 2007
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Grr - taken a good deal of today to soure a suitable altenative as a replacement for the tired & worn out alternator. I have also decided to have the starter motor overhauled as its such a pig to get it off.

I'm now off into the garage to clean things: Carbs etc

Sporting Bear

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236 months

Tuesday 27th February 2007
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Check your emails !

tyre_tread

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Tuesday 27th February 2007
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Sporting Bear said:
Check your emails !

Ditto!

Sporting Bear

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Tuesday 27th February 2007
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tyre_tread said:
Sporting Bear said:
Check your emails !

Ditto!

Right, so you're already at the stage of afternoon naps - you must remain structured or you'll slip further, next it'll be a hammock in the garage

tyre_tread

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Wednesday 28th February 2007
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Many thanks to Sporting Bear for his help today. I drove him up the wall (Piccies will follow)

We managed to remove the front slam panel, the nine bolts holding the bell housing and we tried to lift the engine out. However, no matter how much we pulled, pushed, twisted, lifted, swore, levered and prayed the damn engine will not separate from the 'box by more than about an inch.

Never had an engine this reluctant to leave its gearbox.

Any ideas?

All of the bolts are undone.

Thanks again to Nigel.


Edited by tyre_tread on Wednesday 28th February 22:38



Edited by tyre_tread on Wednesday 28th February 22:43

pupp

12,279 posts

274 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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tyre_tread said:
Many thanks to Sporting Bear for his help today. I drove him up the wall (Piccies will follow)

We managed to remove the front slam panel, the nine bolts holding the bell housing and we tried to lift the engine out. However, no matter how much we pulled, pushed, twisted, lifted, swore, levered and prayed the damn engine will not separate from the 'box by more than about an inch.

Never had an engine this reluctant to leave its gearbox.

Any ideas?

All of the bolts are undone.

Thanks again to Nigel.

You sure you got all the mounts undone, and all the hoses/cables off (seriously)?

Edited by tyre_tread on Wednesday 28th February 22:38



Edited by tyre_tread on Wednesday 28th February 22:43

tonyvid

9,870 posts

245 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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tyre_tread said:
Many thanks to Sporting Bear for his help today. I drove him up the wall (Piccies will follow)

We managed to remove the front slam panel, the nine bolts holding the bell housing and we tried to lift the engine out. However, no matter how much we pulled, pushed, twisted, lifted, swore, levered and prayed the damn engine will not separate from the 'box by more than about an inch.

Never had an engine this reluctant to leave its gearbox.

Any ideas?

All of the bolts are undone.

Thanks again to Nigel.




This is usually caused by something being out of line between the box and engine and it all binding up - just a suggestion but is the gearbox in neutral as the input shaft might be hanging on to the clutch.



markytop

634 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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Can you claim you bought some dodgy petrol earlier this week and get Tesco to pay for the rebuild?? biglaugh

tyre_tread

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Friday 2nd March 2007
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markytop said:
Can you claim you bought some dodgy petrol earlier this week and get Tesco to pay for the rebuild?? biglaugh


hehe nice thought Mark but somehow I don't think it would wash!

Anyway, a quick update.

With thanks to Simon Hill up in Bonny Scotland for his advice support and contacts, Nigel (Sporting Bear) for assisting in spanner wielding and making up new swear words, and Alison for not moaning about the oil patch on the carpet (whoops!) the engine is out!

Now that I have removed it I can see what the problem was. Much easier if you unbolt the torque converter, which is much easier to do BEFORE you disconnect the engine & box.

Now the cleanup and rebuild can begin.

Now, where did I put that sledge hammer?

tonyvid

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245 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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tyre_tread said:

Now, where did I put that sledge hammer?


ooow, impact engineering - the way to gohehe

tyre_tread

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Friday 2nd March 2007
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tonyvid said:
tyre_tread said:

Now, where did I put that sledge hammer?


ooow, impact engineering - the way to gohehe


Percussion engineering!

tonyvid

9,870 posts

245 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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tyre_tread said:
tonyvid said:
tyre_tread said:

Now, where did I put that sledge hammer?


ooow, impact engineering - the way to gohehe


Percussion engineering!




roflGood luck at the weekend, it will be busy and grimy I expect!

tyre_tread

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Friday 2nd March 2007
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tonyvid said:

roflGood luck at the weekend, it will be busy and grimy I expect!


Thanks Tony. Plenty of Gunk and a stiff brush to start with followed by pressure washer and a good scrubbing with soapy water. And if that doesn't get me clean...............................................


Edited by tyre_tread on Saturday 3rd March 10:51