The Little Ying

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tyre_tread

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10,542 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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tyre_tread said:
Drop Test b3nxj said:
It does, doesn't it scratchchin
Ended up with this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool_W0QQ...

seems to work well and can use it with pipes fited to car which was a massive advantage .

I've fitted new brake pipes where required but in the process I disturbed the fuel lines and one fractured so they've been replaced as well courtesy of the flaring tool. Definitely paid for itself already.

Just waiting for some flexi hoses (seized to corroded brake pipe one side so replacing both) and a CV joint gaiter and I'll crack on and hopefully "the ying" will return!

austin2ndcity

42 posts

189 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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great little car i had one myself paid about £2300 for it about 10 years ago, took it to BBR in brackley once id saved up some cash ( i was only 18/19 years old working at TESCO ) had dump valve fitted, suspension lowered and air filter upgrade, wow what a difference ! Lets just say the drive back to brum was more exciting than the drive down

All hell breaks loose when that little green turbo light flickers onto the dash, Love to find another

tyre_tread

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10,542 posts

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Friday 17th October 2008
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austin2ndcity said:
great little car i had one myself paid about £2300 for it about 10 years ago, took it to BBR in brackley once id saved up some cash ( i was only 18/19 years old working at TESCO ) had dump valve fitted, suspension lowered and air filter upgrade, wow what a difference ! Lets just say the drive back to brum was more exciting than the drive down

All hell breaks loose when that little green turbo light flickers onto the dash, Love to find another
There's one on ebay at the moment allegedly in good nick :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Daihatsu-Charade-Gt-ti-gtti-...

He says: "I consider this car to be almost 'mint' condition for its age!!! 21 years old, i have owned 4 of these cars now and this is the best 1 ive seen for a long time!!!"

Up to £1k now but not hist reserve yet. If it was closer to me I'd certainly look at it.

austin2ndcity

42 posts

189 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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yeah looks good but a bit far from me to look at and no space on my drive or garage now i bought shnozz's elise of him

tyre_tread

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Friday 17th October 2008
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austin2ndcity said:
yeah looks good but a bit far from me to look at and no space on my drive or garage now i bought shnozz's elise of him
Elise? Bit too slow for my liking hehe

jumplead

1,823 posts

214 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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scratchchin

What sort of mpg you get out of the ying Alan?

Edited by jumplead on Friday 17th October 15:58

tyre_tread

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Friday 17th October 2008
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jumplead said:
scratchchin

What sort of mpg you get out of the ying Alan?

Edited by jumplead on Friday 17th October 15:58
Depends on how much the fuel pipes are leaking hehe

The original owner (Whiteflyswater) averaged 40 mpg over its 177k mile lifetime but I am seesing around low to mid 30's on mainly short runs and high 20's if I really spank it on a tankful.

They're highly tuneable too and 150bhp is common and around 200bhp achievable, Not bad out of a 993cc lump.

The origins of the charade are Toyota so pretty reliable and the GTti engine utilises the block from the diesel I believe so pretty robust.

My little tyke is on its original engine in original state (not yet rebuilt) and standard tune.

Great cars for some track fun!

tyre_tread

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Saturday 18th October 2008
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jumplead said:
scratchchin

What sort of mpg you get out of the ying Alan?

Edited by jumplead on Friday 17th October 15:58
This might eb useful:
YEAR OF MANUFACTURE : 1987 - 1993. Early UK cars are D reg, late cars are K reg

PLACE OF MANUFACTURE : Osaka, Japan

NUMBER OF CARS PRODUCED : 227790

BODY : 3-door hatchback (G100)

COLOURS : White, silver, red, metallic grey.
Dark blue metallic, metallic black.

ENGINE

Type : CB80 (CB70 in Japan)
Size : 993cc
Cylinders : 3
BHP : 99.23
Torque : 95.88 lbs ft
Bore : 76 mm
Stroke : 73 mm
Valves : 12 overhead
Compression : 7.8:1
Turbo : IHI type RHB51 with intercooler (later cars have watercooled turbo)
Standard boost pressure : 10.5 psi
Multi-point fuel injection
Electronic 'mapped' ignition

TRANSMISSION

Front wheel drive
5 speed manual
Single dry plate, diaphragm spring clutch

SUSPENSION

Front and rear MacPherson struts with stabiliser

STEERING

Rack and pinion

BRAKES, WHEELS AND TYRES

Ventilated discs front
Solid discs rear
14" alloy wheels
175/60 R14 Tyres

SIZE, WEIGHTS

Length : 3610 mm
Width : 1615 mm
Height : 1385 mm
Fuel tank capacity : 40 litres
Weight : 818 KG

FUEL ECONOMY

Urban : 37.2 mpg
@ 55 MPH : 54.3 mpg
@ 75 MPH : 37.3 mpg

PERFORMANCE

Max speed : 116 mph
0-60 : 7.7 secs
0-1/4 mile : 16.4 secs @ 84 mph
0-1 km : 30.4 secs
Power to weight ratio : 123.1 BHP / TON

tyre_tread

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Saturday 18th October 2008
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Also worth having a look at Nathan Munns tuning guide - Soooooo easy!

http://members.aol.com/Pocketrocket993/raisingboos...

tyre_tread

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Monday 20th October 2008
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It passed today and I was complimented upon my workmanship by the MOT tester. biggrin

Brakes are good now although I didn't think thet were bad before.

Right, where's Combine? He wanted a spin!

Tyre_Tread

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Sunday 16th November 2008
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Thought I'd killed the little tyke on Friday.

On my way back from Leicester vis the scenic route where I had been "making progress" and as I started to lift off entering the alst village before home I looked n the mirror and could see absolutely nothing except whitesmoke/steam.

Turbo was still operational and temp guage started to rise so I limped it home the 1.5 miles or so.

Today I lifted the bonnet with a heavy heart and found a split in a 6 inche pipe of 1/2 inch diameter rubber heater hose that runs near the turbo oil pipe.

Halfords do not stock 1/2 inch heater hose irked

Thanks to Drop Test for the piece of hose.

Car now back on the road but seems still to be chucking out water. Poss head gasket problem - will have to test tomorrow. frown

combine

3,114 posts

231 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Alan , didn't I tell you it was water related ie possible water pump ? Close anyway . When its half decent weather wise I will give you a ring and bring the '7' for a run !

Drop Test b3nxj

1,091 posts

216 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Tyre_Tread said:
Car now back on the road but seems still to be chucking out water. Poss head gasket problem - will have to test tomorrow. frown
what was the result??

Tyre_Tread

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Sunday 23rd November 2008
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Test was negative so I topped up the rad and expansion tank and will have to see how it goes. Haven't been very far in it so time will tell.

You'll just have to wait a little longer before you get your paws on it eh Ben? wink

Tyre_Tread

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Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Took the little Ying out for a run tonight - ebhaved well until I got back home and after 30 seconds of parking on the driveway it blew the cap and sprayed coolant all over the engine.

I'm sure it should pressure back into the catch tank. scratchchin

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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You might have a blockage. Is the water thermostat working properly?? Back in the old days they had a habit of becoming stuck closed.

Take the thermostat out, boil a kettle of water, pour hot water into a saucpan and drop the thermostat into it. If it doesn't open up you know it's buggered!! You could always run around with the thermostat removed, just takes a long time in cold weather for the engine to warm up but it might just stop it overheating.

Tyre_Tread

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Tuesday 25th November 2008
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ScoobieWRX said:
You might have a blockage. Is the water thermostat working properly?? Back in the old days they had a habit of becoming stuck closed.

Take the thermostat out, boil a kettle of water, pour hot water into a saucpan and drop the thermostat into it. If it doesn't open up you know it's buggered!! You could always run around with the thermostat removed, just takes a long time in cold weather for the engine to warm up but it might just stop it overheating.
Hmm, unlikely to be the thermostat since the car runs OK temperature wise and I did a 30 odd mile round trip last night with a two hour break in the middle.

If it was a stuck thermostat then the water would not be circulating into the radiator and I would expect to see elevated temp showing during normal running.

I think what is pprobably happening is that the heat soak from the turbo after turning off the engine is causing the water to boil and over pressuring the cap. The old cap didn't seal well so it is a new cap

It should overflow into the catch tank but perhaps the pressure is too great and its blowing past the cap.

ScoobieWRX

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228 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Have you thought about lagging the turbo if it's doing that?

Tyre_Tread

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Tuesday 25th November 2008
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ScoobieWRX said:
Have you thought about lagging the turbo if it's doing that?
No I hadn't but I think that would be treating the symptoms rather then the ailment.

This car is standard so it should run with the standard set up. First line of investigation will be the rad cap and how it seals (or not as the case may be). Then I'll flush out the cooling system and look for any blockages etc.

Thanks for the thought though. All suggestions are appreciated.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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I wish you luck with that thumbup

Sounds like one of those mystery ailments that takes forever to find and then one day you're fiddling about under the bonnet doing something else and the issue presents itself slapping you in the face.

"....Ah there it is!! You...little...fker!!", the bemused and confused Little Ying owner screamed excitedly. hehe