The MMA thread

[BRMMA]

LostBMW said:

I always wonder how, given the distance required and skill needed, so many head kicks do land and wouldn't risk doing it myself for fear of missing/getting off balance, but the good guys must have something very special to get through even a tight, pro defence with them. True Bisping had the early warning but, apart from maybe leaving his hand down momentarily, I think it was just one of those things and guys do get caught.

Landing head kicks aren't too much more difficult than landing any other kick, it's all about setting them up correctly, if you just swing your leg at their head you'll never land but if you set it up right you up your chances of landing it significantly.

Vitor did everything right to land the kick
> Set it up with numerous body kicks, you can't block all of your body and head at the same time so bisping wasn't sure where the kicks were going

> he faked with his hands first and against a southpaw you will parry their straight left with your right hand, Bisping saw the left hand move forward and pawed at it taking his hand briefly away from his face and the kick came immediately

I think Bisping fought the wrong fight, trying to stand and strike with Vitor was never going to end well, he should have tried to force the takedown, he may not have gotten it but it would have tired Vitor and taken away some of his explosiveness

now Vitor is back on the gear he could be a force again ;/

[LostBMW]

Just watched the first of the UFC shows - a good start, well produced with a more interesting, less rushed documentary style introduction - though still some of the fights were very cut down, even though it was an extra length episode.

One thing did annoy was that the film of the fights looked jittery as if the frame rate or sync were 'off'?
Some very impressive fighters on this series though.

I see Jones had a team mate in the entry, a Brit and I'm especially intrigued to see how well the boxer does. Quite a bit on the net about hom including some embedded clips here

http://www.x3sports.com/success-stories-clint

showing he looks v. fast and has a good KO shot.

Edited by LostBMW on Wednesday 23 January 19:25

[Chris77]

LostBMW said:

Just watched the first of the UFC shows - a good start, well produced with a more interesting, less rushed documentary style introduction - though still some of the fights were very cut down, even though it was an extra length episode.

One thing did annoy was that the film of the fights looked jittery as if the frame rate or sync were 'off'?
Some very impressive fighters on this series though.

I see Jones had a team mate in the entry, a Brit and I'm especially intrigued to see how well the boxer does. Quite a bit on the net about hom including some embedded clips here

http://www.x3sports.com/success-stories-clint

showing he looks v. fast and has a good KO shot.

Edited by LostBMW on Wednesday 23 January 19:25

Just watched this too. I'm enjoying Chael already

But I ended up skipping the tedious hard life/sob stories after the first 5 or 6! It anoyed the life out of me. What made it worse was after the 10 min of guff then fight starts, great I think but no! cut to "Performance highlights" and Jon Jones sayin it was an awesome fight!!! If it really was THEN SHOW IT!!!! not some grown man crying with his family/mates/whoever!

Hopefully it will be back on track once in the house.

[Don1]

Agreed to all in the last two posts above.

[LostBMW]

Chris77 said:

LostBMW said:

Just watched the first of the UFC shows - a good start, well produced with a more interesting, less rushed documentary style introduction - though still some of the fights were very cut down, even though it was an extra length episode.

One thing did annoy was that the film of the fights looked jittery as if the frame rate or sync were 'off'?
Some very impressive fighters on this series though.

I see Jones had a team mate in the entry, a Brit and I'm especially intrigued to see how well the boxer does. Quite a bit on the net about hom including some embedded clips here

http://www.x3sports.com/success-stories-clint

showing he looks v. fast and has a good KO shot.

Edited by LostBMW on Wednesday 23 January 19:25

Just watched this too. I'm enjoying Chael already

But I ended up skipping the tedious hard life/sob stories after the first 5 or 6! It anoyed the life out of me. What made it worse was after the 10 min of guff then fight starts, great I think but no! cut to "Performance highlights" and Jon Jones sayin it was an awesome fight!!! If it really was THEN SHOW IT!!!! not some grown man crying with his family/mates/whoever!

Hopefully it will be back on track once in the house.

Exactly - I actually wrote in my first post that there was too much of the oh so typical American getting to know what a hard life you had/good guy you are/teary bd etc. at the expense of the fights but deleted it as it seemed to contradict the idea that I liked the (opening) documentary style. But I agree - especially miffed to hear what a great fight it was to have 10 seconds of stylised 'Performance Highlight' stuff.

But, overall liked it; some good fights, some very promising contenders this time and I love Sonnen, he is so brilliant at being top dog, dominating the way a conversation or idea is and getting under your skin even when he's being pally!

[Halb]

Fighters Wives on C5 now

[kingstondc5]

Freakshowspunching above his weight lol

[Nedzilla]

kingstondc5 said:

Freakshowspunching above his weight lol

Cant agree more!

[Chris77]

LostBMW said:

Chris77 said:

LostBMW said:

Just watched the first of the UFC shows - a good start, well produced with a more interesting, less rushed documentary style introduction - though still some of the fights were very cut down, even though it was an extra length episode.

One thing did annoy was that the film of the fights looked jittery as if the frame rate or sync were 'off'?
Some very impressive fighters on this series though.

I see Jones had a team mate in the entry, a Brit and I'm especially intrigued to see how well the boxer does. Quite a bit on the net about hom including some embedded clips here

http://www.x3sports.com/success-stories-clint

showing he looks v. fast and has a good KO shot.

Edited by LostBMW on Wednesday 23 January 19:25

Just watched this too. I'm enjoying Chael already

But I ended up skipping the tedious hard life/sob stories after the first 5 or 6! It anoyed the life out of me. What made it worse was after the 10 min of guff then fight starts, great I think but no! cut to "Performance highlights" and Jon Jones sayin it was an awesome fight!!! If it really was THEN SHOW IT!!!! not some grown man crying with his family/mates/whoever!

Hopefully it will be back on track once in the house.

Exactly - I actually wrote in my first post that there was too much of the oh so typical American getting to know what a hard life you had/good guy you are/teary bd etc. at the expense of the fights but deleted it as it seemed to contradict the idea that I liked the (opening) documentary style. But I agree - especially miffed to hear what a great fight it was to have 10 seconds of stylised 'Performance Highlight' stuff.

But, overall liked it; some good fights, some very promising contenders this time and I love Sonnen, he is so brilliant at being top dog, dominating the way a conversation or idea is and getting under your skin even when he's being pally!

I pretty much did the opposit, wrote how I liked the new style, then deleted it and just had a moan

They have me hooked in with the 'carted off in an ambulance' tease anyway so will be watching

[Chris77]

Halb said:

Fighters Wives on C5 now

Just watched this, had to laugh at:

Intro to part 1: Cage fighting or MMA as its known.............

Intro part 2: Cage fighter Colin Fletcher........

Intro part 3: In the world of cage fighting.......

Intro part 4: MMA fighters are tough guys, Just dont call it cage fighting.....


(Did enjoy it though)

[davey68]

Freakshow punching well above his weight! His missus was cute! Good to see Brad Pickett in that show too. Quite an interesting programme. Good to see TUF back and I can see Chael being pretty funny in the series. I'd read that one of the guys this series is a real beast and was putting people in hospital. Probably Dana's BS to big up the show but I thought uriah hall looked a nasty striker so maybe its him? Right behind the big brit too lets hope he does well!

[kingstondc5]

I reckon theyll just stick a grappler in with the boxer and tell him to take it to the floor.

Instead the wrestler will want to stand and bang for alpha male title and get knocked the fk out

[LostBMW]

There's a Rampage Jackson special tonight on ESPN, at 12.30, before the UFC on Fox bill.

[Don1]

Right, quick catchup on the FX bill. Rampage looked old... But Glover couldn't finish him? Not that scary judging from that performance.

Mighty Mouse is stunning - who next for him?

Everything else - good fights. I enjoyed the bill.

[LostBMW]

Don1 said:

Right, quick catchup on the FX bill. Rampage looked old... But Glover couldn't finish him? Not that scary judging from that performance.

Mighty Mouse is stunning - who next for him?

Everything else - good fights. I enjoyed the bill.

Pretty much agree with this on all accounts. Jackson is well and truly past it - his cardio looked gone by 3 minutes and he was wading through treacle in the last half of the fight. I've never understood why someone who was supposedly such an awesome wrestler as a kid (and had that trademark slam) can't avoid being taken down to such an obvious extent and can't use his wrestling against opponents. He became a limited one trick pony.

The move to a boxing coach predominating (Hatton's but from years ago - a Manchester staple from yesteryear but hardly at the top of the coaching game these days to be fair) looked a bad one too as that head movement he tried to throw in seemed to put him off - he was too defensive and reacted to any feint or punch by Glover so much he didn't let his hands go often enough until desperate later in the fight - and led him to dip into quite a few shots. He said in the interview he'd like to try boxing. NO! He'd get taken to bits.

Loved the finish in the Petit-Cerrone fight - an awesome performance in every regard. He made a tough, dangerous guy look fragile!

[BRMMA]

The weekend's UFC show was superb IMO. Lamas looks a beast, to be able to deal with Koch standing is good going but his GnP was phenomenal, his posture in the guard was amazing.

Pettis was superb, Cerrone is a very high level striker but Pettis made him look ordinary. a Pettis vs Henderson rematch will be awesome, the first fight was good enough but they've both improved a lot since then

Texeiria looked decent and i believe he's good enough to be in with the elite at 205 but he won't do any better against Jones(if he ever gets the fight) than the rest

DJ and Dodson was a good fight, the speed they can move at is unreal and DJ's cardio to keep going at that pace is on another level to anyone else i've seen

[Stu R]

Pettis looked great. I'm a big fan of Cowboy but yeah... what a finish, great strategy that paid off right away. I'd like to see a rematch though, not because I don't think Pettis deserved it or it wasn't a good fight or anything, but purely because I think if they played it again there's the possibility for a spectacular fight between those two if it hadn't ended quite as quickly.

Rampage needs to find a new career to work on, I'll be amazed if he stays in MMA, despite the Bellator rumours - he just looks past it to me and has for a while. Tex looked OK, needs a few more big names under his belt though, couldn't see him lasting against many of the top 10 fighters on that performance. Did what was needed though.

Mighty mouse, not much to say really. Just keeps on delivering emphatic victories. Do wish he wouldn't leave so many to decision, even with his work rate and stamina there's no accounting for judge-stupidity - but they can't all be TKOs I guess.

Yet again the not-so-spectacular cards Fox picked up delivered some of the best fights, hope it continues, moving to the US soon and I'm damned if I'll PPV anything

[Don1]

Interesting vlog - Rampage looked really down and upset.

[LostBMW]

@ HALB, especially!

A while back I mentioned the half hour special on Cheick Kongo on Trace Sports but iirc you missed it.

Well, it's on again tonight at 10.00pm on channel 442.

[tim2100]

Apparently Bisping is signed to fight Belcher on April 27th for UFC 159.

A good fight, both coming off loses.