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sjc said:
sjc said:
Froch between 8-10 by stoppage for me.
sjc said:
If I'm completely wrong and Groves does create a shock, I sincerely hope he wins with a bit of dignity against a great champion, and ackowledges him as that.
Don't come in here often as there's people far more knowledgable than me and I'm worried I'll embarrass myself!However my quotes above are from just before Froch/Groves 1 in November. This time "if" Froch has got one big fight left in him, I'm going for a similar outcome again.
Edited by sjc on Friday 30th May 12:14
Amazing punch. Sure the commentators would have picked up on this, but have a look at how Froch throws the left, then uses it to hook Groves' right and pull his guard down before throwing the right cross. Timed it to perfection.
Disappointed for Groves though. Up until that point he had fought a great fight and looked like he had the stamina to see it through.
All in all though, just an amazing experience to be there to witness it!
Disappointed for Groves though. Up until that point he had fought a great fight and looked like he had the stamina to see it through.
All in all though, just an amazing experience to be there to witness it!
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lord trumpton said:
I think Froch will win this convincingly
Last time he was on the back foot from round one as he underestimated groves.
Froch's confidence dipped and Grove's confidence grew - in boxing a lot of it is the mind.
Froch will be on the ball this time
I'll just quote my original prediction Last time he was on the back foot from round one as he underestimated groves.
Froch's confidence dipped and Grove's confidence grew - in boxing a lot of it is the mind.
Froch will be on the ball this time
I thank you
lord trumpton said:
lord trumpton said:
I think Froch will win this convincingly
Last time he was on the back foot from round one as he underestimated groves.
Froch's confidence dipped and Grove's confidence grew - in boxing a lot of it is the mind.
Froch will be on the ball this time
I'll just quote my original prediction Last time he was on the back foot from round one as he underestimated groves.
Froch's confidence dipped and Grove's confidence grew - in boxing a lot of it is the mind.
Froch will be on the ball this time
I thank you
sjc said:
lord trumpton said:
lord trumpton said:
I think Froch will win this convincingly
Last time he was on the back foot from round one as he underestimated groves.
Froch's confidence dipped and Grove's confidence grew - in boxing a lot of it is the mind.
Froch will be on the ball this time
I'll just quote my original prediction Last time he was on the back foot from round one as he underestimated groves.
Froch's confidence dipped and Grove's confidence grew - in boxing a lot of it is the mind.
Froch will be on the ball this time
I thank you
I thank you
Gutted for Groves, but excellent and composed performance by Froch. Credit to both of them as they were very evenly matched.
In my view Froch should retire now, as he doesn't need to carry on and after last night he would leave the sport a very very proud man. he has nothing left to prove.
If that happened then I'd like to see Groves and DeGale fight for the vacant IBF belt.
In my view Froch should retire now, as he doesn't need to carry on and after last night he would leave the sport a very very proud man. he has nothing left to prove.
If that happened then I'd like to see Groves and DeGale fight for the vacant IBF belt.
C'mon Frochy...just don't ever,ever think you will/could beat (your Nemesis) Andre Ward...Some thoughts on last night (caveat - I didn't stump up for PPV so I've only seen the action once, save the brief repeats of key incidents they showed on the screens at the time).
Joshua: not much to say other than job done, looks great but really needs rounds.
McDonnell: Other than some brief highlights from the IBF title fight, this was my first proper look at McDonnell. However, I had read that he's not the most exciting fighter around but he has remarkable stamina and staying power; so much so that you'd swear he'd been switching places with his twin brother between each round! Watching the fight, I could see where whoever wrote that was coming from! I thought he looked a bit off the pace when compared to the movement and trickiness of, er, whassisface; at least in the first half of the fight. But he kept at it, got on top and scored a cracking KO. Glad to see him get another version of the world title (usual WBA disclaimer applies) and hopefully a big domestic unification fight with IBF champ Stuart Hall can be made later this year.
Mitchell: I'll confess, around the half-way point I said to my mate that it looked like Mitchell was going to come up short on the big occasion yet again - first Katsidis, then Burns, now this. While he is good at pretty much everything, he doesn't excel in any particular area so lacks that little extra that's needed to win fights like this one. Ha! Absolutely delighted to be proven wrong,and thought Mitchell showed no shortage of guts to hang on in there. He demonstrated a huge will to win, and in the end that's what got him the victory as much as anything. Would love to see him go on and win a world title and, against Vazquez, I think he does at least have a chance.
DeGale: I was taken aback by how good DeGale looked, right from the opening bell. He still seemed to spend a bit too much time on the ropes (which he supposedly wasn't going to do, having now recovered from a log-term injury that was impairing his mobility) but generally looked a class above his opponent who, according to both his record and his ranking, was no mug. It's clear the move to Matchroom and the chance to fight on shows like this has given DeGale a whole new lease of life. That said, I'm still not sure he's world champion material but I'll be watching with interest as and when he does get his shot.
Froch-Groves: Weird thing - when each man was introduced, the boos were louder than the cheers for both fighters! Still trying to fathom that one out! Anyway, I have to say, this was one of the most gripping fights I've seen. Yes, some morons started jeering from about the third onwards as they clearly were expecting a slug-fest, but most people were on the edge of their seats, absolutely transfixed...proper knife-edge stuff! Through the opening rounds, Froch was actually sharper than I thought he would be, but Groves still looked the quicker and was edging the exchanges, tending to be the one getting the final say. It seemed Froch wanted to keep the pressure on Groves but was perhaps reluctant to fully commit, and for a while I felt that could be an issue for him; the fear of catching a big shot making him less effective when in the toe-to-toe situations, which arguably offered him the best chance of success. Alternatively, it could have been he was just pacing himself; letting the pressure and the periodic flurries take the energy out of Groves and laying the foundations for him to dominate through the latter part of the fight, while reducing his chances of being hammered by not standing his ground in the pocket too long, even if it meant losing out on the exchange. Personally, I had Groves up by three rounds going into the eighth but most rounds were close. I also thought Groves was looking in decent shape fitness-wise and was looking capable of fighting that way over the distance. The biggest concern I had for Groves, though, was that he didn't seem able to use his footwork/movement to get away from Froch when caught on the ropes. As the fight progressed, that was where Froch seemed to be having the most success, and it wasn't surprising that it was there where he ended the fight, though the expectation would have been that it would be through a sustained attack rather than a single shot. As I posted at the time, it was an amazing punch; masterful execution. For me, it was the little tug with the left on Groves' right arm that made it; either it was going to lower Groves' guard (although he should have had his left up too to give more protection from the right cross) or it was going to pull Groves onto the shot; and whichever, it was also going to switch Groves' attention to what Froch was doing with his left and away from his right, even if only for a split second. Brilliant shot...
Joshua: not much to say other than job done, looks great but really needs rounds.
McDonnell: Other than some brief highlights from the IBF title fight, this was my first proper look at McDonnell. However, I had read that he's not the most exciting fighter around but he has remarkable stamina and staying power; so much so that you'd swear he'd been switching places with his twin brother between each round! Watching the fight, I could see where whoever wrote that was coming from! I thought he looked a bit off the pace when compared to the movement and trickiness of, er, whassisface; at least in the first half of the fight. But he kept at it, got on top and scored a cracking KO. Glad to see him get another version of the world title (usual WBA disclaimer applies) and hopefully a big domestic unification fight with IBF champ Stuart Hall can be made later this year.
Mitchell: I'll confess, around the half-way point I said to my mate that it looked like Mitchell was going to come up short on the big occasion yet again - first Katsidis, then Burns, now this. While he is good at pretty much everything, he doesn't excel in any particular area so lacks that little extra that's needed to win fights like this one. Ha! Absolutely delighted to be proven wrong,and thought Mitchell showed no shortage of guts to hang on in there. He demonstrated a huge will to win, and in the end that's what got him the victory as much as anything. Would love to see him go on and win a world title and, against Vazquez, I think he does at least have a chance.
DeGale: I was taken aback by how good DeGale looked, right from the opening bell. He still seemed to spend a bit too much time on the ropes (which he supposedly wasn't going to do, having now recovered from a log-term injury that was impairing his mobility) but generally looked a class above his opponent who, according to both his record and his ranking, was no mug. It's clear the move to Matchroom and the chance to fight on shows like this has given DeGale a whole new lease of life. That said, I'm still not sure he's world champion material but I'll be watching with interest as and when he does get his shot.
Froch-Groves: Weird thing - when each man was introduced, the boos were louder than the cheers for both fighters! Still trying to fathom that one out! Anyway, I have to say, this was one of the most gripping fights I've seen. Yes, some morons started jeering from about the third onwards as they clearly were expecting a slug-fest, but most people were on the edge of their seats, absolutely transfixed...proper knife-edge stuff! Through the opening rounds, Froch was actually sharper than I thought he would be, but Groves still looked the quicker and was edging the exchanges, tending to be the one getting the final say. It seemed Froch wanted to keep the pressure on Groves but was perhaps reluctant to fully commit, and for a while I felt that could be an issue for him; the fear of catching a big shot making him less effective when in the toe-to-toe situations, which arguably offered him the best chance of success. Alternatively, it could have been he was just pacing himself; letting the pressure and the periodic flurries take the energy out of Groves and laying the foundations for him to dominate through the latter part of the fight, while reducing his chances of being hammered by not standing his ground in the pocket too long, even if it meant losing out on the exchange. Personally, I had Groves up by three rounds going into the eighth but most rounds were close. I also thought Groves was looking in decent shape fitness-wise and was looking capable of fighting that way over the distance. The biggest concern I had for Groves, though, was that he didn't seem able to use his footwork/movement to get away from Froch when caught on the ropes. As the fight progressed, that was where Froch seemed to be having the most success, and it wasn't surprising that it was there where he ended the fight, though the expectation would have been that it would be through a sustained attack rather than a single shot. As I posted at the time, it was an amazing punch; masterful execution. For me, it was the little tug with the left on Groves' right arm that made it; either it was going to lower Groves' guard (although he should have had his left up too to give more protection from the right cross) or it was going to pull Groves onto the shot; and whichever, it was also going to switch Groves' attention to what Froch was doing with his left and away from his right, even if only for a split second. Brilliant shot...
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