How England Won the Ashes in Australia - 2010/11
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BBC said:
Meanwhile, Kevin Pietersen was out for a two-ball duck in his latest match in South Africa as he continued his struggle with the bat ahead of the winter tour to Australia.
The England batsman is playing the second of two first-class matches for Durban's Kwazulu Natal Dolphins.
He made 36 against the Warriors in Pietermaritzburg eight days ago.
With the Dolphins chasing the Titans' 242, they were reduced to 19-2 when Pietersen came in but he was quickly dismissed by Ethy Mbhalati who claimed his third wicket of the match.
South African-born Pietersen is desperate to get back to his best for the series in Australia after a disappointing summer in which he made just one score of over 50 in Test cricket.
He has not scored a Test century since March 2009 and was dropped for the one-day series against Pakistan this year after he averaged only 23.33 in one-day games with a highest score of 80 in the Tests.
He joined Surrey on loan from Hampshire in September in a bid to recapture his form and had mixed success, scoring a century in a 40-over game against Sussex but following it up with a second-ball duck against Glamorgan.
Will KP make the starting XI? The England batsman is playing the second of two first-class matches for Durban's Kwazulu Natal Dolphins.
He made 36 against the Warriors in Pietermaritzburg eight days ago.
With the Dolphins chasing the Titans' 242, they were reduced to 19-2 when Pietersen came in but he was quickly dismissed by Ethy Mbhalati who claimed his third wicket of the match.
South African-born Pietersen is desperate to get back to his best for the series in Australia after a disappointing summer in which he made just one score of over 50 in Test cricket.
He has not scored a Test century since March 2009 and was dropped for the one-day series against Pakistan this year after he averaged only 23.33 in one-day games with a highest score of 80 in the Tests.
He joined Surrey on loan from Hampshire in September in a bid to recapture his form and had mixed success, scoring a century in a 40-over game against Sussex but following it up with a second-ball duck against Glamorgan.
Victor McDade said:
ewenm said:
chimster said:
hornetrider said:
chimster said:
Victor McDade said:
One of the other England players has broken Jimmy Anderson's rib during a Boxing session at their 'boot camp'
Doubtful for the first couple of Ashes test matches now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-1...
What the fDoubtful for the first couple of Ashes test matches now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-1...
k is all that about. Jeez give me a break. The bloody aussies don't need any help from us. This is bonkers.
king. Kidding. Me.FFS.
Ffs just go down the pub after a long match or series - job done.
Just two pages ago you were banging on about how you were going to beat us easily and much of a spent force we are. Now Jimmy hurts himself and your like a bunch of headless chooks.
The Australians seem pretty woeful in the current 20/20 against Sri Lanka , their bowlers are getting creamed it's Carnage out there !
My daughter's currently in Aus & she say's the Ausie's are getting it from all angles from the aussie media & even Merv Hughes has been fired as a selector ,
This is our year to take the Australians on their home surface
My daughter's currently in Aus & she say's the Ausie's are getting it from all angles from the aussie media & even Merv Hughes has been fired as a selector ,
This is our year to take the Australians on their home surface
S.L. just handed the Australians a bit of a hiding in today's Twenty/20, they won by 7 wickets with 21 balls remaining.
Healey asking Clarke if the Australians were having difficulty in getting used to conditions in Australia after being away in India.
http://www.cricinfo.com/australia-v-sri-lanka-2010...
Healey asking Clarke if the Australians were having difficulty in getting used to conditions in Australia after being away in India.
http://www.cricinfo.com/australia-v-sri-lanka-2010...
Edited by el stovey on Sunday 31st October 12:47
5pen said:
Can the thread title be changed so that it's not tempting fate? It could turn out to be the worst prediction since Johnfm changed his name to Aussies5Poms0 before the last Ashes series?
No, it is a great prediction, Clearly any Englishman is naturally superior to the convict nation. They have only one decent player and he is in his twilight years, I am looking for to watching KP hoist their so called bowlers to all parts of the ground.
I doubt Hilfenhaus will get more than two overs per innings, as our chpas help themselves to the Buffet fare on offer
DJC said:
Put simply both sides arent that much cop at the moment.
How can you say this... Australia have lost 10 of the last 13 outings in all formats, England have won home test series against Pakistan, Drawn Away wih SA, Won the T20 world cup, beaten everyone we have played in Onedayers (including SA) We are on a good run, with a decent unit.
Have you watched us play recently?
Seriously?!?!
The batting unit hasnt put together a decent conhesive performance all summer. We have either relied on someone making a decent score or the bowlers saving our arse. Our *best* batsman cant buy a run. Our middle order is once again undecided and one of the openners and Vice Captain was one innings away from a turfing out earlier in the summer.
Oh and our best bowler just had his rib broken.
Seriously?!?!
The batting unit hasnt put together a decent conhesive performance all summer. We have either relied on someone making a decent score or the bowlers saving our arse. Our *best* batsman cant buy a run. Our middle order is once again undecided and one of the openners and Vice Captain was one innings away from a turfing out earlier in the summer.
Oh and our best bowler just had his rib broken.
DJC said:
Have you watched us play recently?
Seriously?!?!
The batting unit hasnt put together a decent conhesive performance all summer. We have either relied on someone making a decent score or the bowlers saving our arse. Our *best* batsman cant buy a run. Our middle order is once again undecided and one of the openners and Vice Captain was one innings away from a turfing out earlier in the summer.
Oh and our best bowler just had his rib broken.
Strauss - form of his life Seriously?!?!
The batting unit hasnt put together a decent conhesive performance all summer. We have either relied on someone making a decent score or the bowlers saving our arse. Our *best* batsman cant buy a run. Our middle order is once again undecided and one of the openners and Vice Captain was one innings away from a turfing out earlier in the summer.
Oh and our best bowler just had his rib broken.
Jimmy will be fit for the warm ups so no big deal
Swann, probably the best off spinner in the world right now.
Cook - OK so has had a dip, but made a century in the last test.
As for relying on someone to make a decent score, yes we do that - for the last four years its been KP predominatly, he will be back demolishing the bowling, have a little faith.
I think Ponting would swap 'our' problems for his problems
It hasnt usually been KP, in fact it has rarely been KP.
Our most consistent bloke recently has been Trott, the only Mr consistent we have right now. The Skipper is making runs, but he has to be Skipper, in Aus and make runs all at the same time. Very, very few have ever shown they can pull that off.
Our middle order:
KP: gamble.
Trott
Bell
Collingwood
Morgan
Pick 3 of those 4.
Swanny is the best in the world atm, agreed. Jimmy has recovered physically, but not match fit, not that level of continued honed "hardness" of body that you simply dont have after an injury. He now has 5 full test matches in an Aus summer on Aus tracks with a 4 man bowling line up. And he has to play controlled cricket, he wont swing it, so it has to be line and length and still be a strike weapon.
We are asking an awful lot of a squad that is a long way short of being a solid outfit regardless of what Punter can put on the field.
Our most consistent bloke recently has been Trott, the only Mr consistent we have right now. The Skipper is making runs, but he has to be Skipper, in Aus and make runs all at the same time. Very, very few have ever shown they can pull that off.
Our middle order:
KP: gamble.
Trott
Bell
Collingwood
Morgan
Pick 3 of those 4.
Swanny is the best in the world atm, agreed. Jimmy has recovered physically, but not match fit, not that level of continued honed "hardness" of body that you simply dont have after an injury. He now has 5 full test matches in an Aus summer on Aus tracks with a 4 man bowling line up. And he has to play controlled cricket, he wont swing it, so it has to be line and length and still be a strike weapon.
We are asking an awful lot of a squad that is a long way short of being a solid outfit regardless of what Punter can put on the field.
I think we all know that England don't have much chance of winning the Ashes in Australia but this is the best chance England have had in years.
Although it's not very likely, at least it looks as though it could be a more evenly matched contest than last time. England have been fragile at best this year with very few good consistent performances. Generally speaking, the Australians are on a bit of a downswing and England are on a bit of an upswing. That's about the most optimistic statement I can realistically make.
When was the last time England won the ashes in Australia? There's a good reason for that.
Although it's not very likely, at least it looks as though it could be a more evenly matched contest than last time. England have been fragile at best this year with very few good consistent performances. Generally speaking, the Australians are on a bit of a downswing and England are on a bit of an upswing. That's about the most optimistic statement I can realistically make.
When was the last time England won the ashes in Australia? There's a good reason for that.
I don't believe we should be saying that we are going to wallop the aussies (unfortunately) but I do think this has the hallmarks of a close series and that is what is going to make it worth watching. Apart from the skill and form required the mental strength that is required to deal with the constant sledging/abuse day in day out in front of attendancies of up to 100,000 people, with the media constantly on it. Mental strength will be key. That is the area that I think has become more even. Let's be honest the aussie press have been giving Ponting and co a hard time too!
It could all go tits up for us but I reckon we will be much tougher to beat, and if we get off to a good start we won't roll over like we did last time :-)
It could all go tits up for us but I reckon we will be much tougher to beat, and if we get off to a good start we won't roll over like we did last time :-)
K P has to play , he will give the aussie's as good as he gets & probably more verbally , just wish he'd spent a few months with Goochie & Ramps sorting his alleged left arm over batting problems ,
Really thought England missed a trick with K P going to south africa, All it needed was to get a dozen decent left arm club bowlers to bowl at him for a few days ,
Really thought England missed a trick with K P going to south africa, All it needed was to get a dozen decent left arm club bowlers to bowl at him for a few days ,
Edited by webbyst on Monday 1st November 18:55
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