Wiggins - could this be a Similar issue as Lance A ?
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JPJPJP said:
If froome is aiming for the grand tours, he will still be some way off peak fitness
Possibly if he's going at the Vuelta, but still being dropped from what wasn't exactly the most elite group going is a bit of a question I'd have thought. And I thought he was doing the Giro this year?okgo said:
Possibly if he's going at the Vuelta, but still being dropped from what wasn't exactly the most elite group going is a bit of a question I'd have thought. And I thought he was doing the Giro this year?
Yes, he is said to be in for the girohttps://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?id=14086...
Last time he did the tirreno Adriatico he finished 2nd overall
Maybe his own drug questions are weighing on him? Kwiato doing ok in the race though.
Will be interesting to see what froome does in the tt tomorrow, though it is too short to judge some things by really isn’t it?
Kawasicki said:
There should be two cycling classes. One for healthy people who don't need TUE, and another much faster class for people with serious illnesses.
makes sense, no?
Wiggins has asthma. It's not serious but can become so if left unchecked - particularly when performing cardio based endurance sport. The medication he took will have made little to no difference to his performance. makes sense, no?
Edited by Kawasicki on Monday 12th March 11:09
popeyewhite said:
Kawasicki said:
There should be two cycling classes. One for healthy people who don't need TUE, and another much faster class for people with serious illnesses.
makes sense, no?
Wiggins has asthma. It's not serious but can become so if left unchecked - particularly when performing cardio based endurance sport. The medication he took will have made little to no difference to his performance. makes sense, no?
Edited by Kawasicki on Monday 12th March 11:09
popeyewhite said:
Kawasicki said:
There should be two cycling classes. One for healthy people who don't need TUE, and another much faster class for people with serious illnesses.
makes sense, no?
Wiggins has asthma. It's not serious but can become so if left unchecked - particularly when performing cardio based endurance sport. The medication he took will have made little to no difference to his performance. makes sense, no?
Edited by Kawasicki on Monday 12th March 11:09
okgo said:
Yeh, stripping fat away rapidly would be really counter productive for a cyclist needing to stick with the pure climbers in the TDF. lol.
Also the same doctor that signed off these idiotic measures did so for Froome and has declined being part of the investigation, filthy filthy.
Especially when these injections will keep doing their magic for 3-4 weeks coincidently the length of time of the TdF! Also the same doctor that signed off these idiotic measures did so for Froome and has declined being part of the investigation, filthy filthy.
okgo said:
Yeh, stripping fat away rapidly would be really counter productive for a cyclist needing to stick with the pure climbers in the TDF. lol.
I'm not sure why you're so stubbornly refusing to grasp that he would need a lot more and a lot higher dosage to achieve any kind of weightloss. okgo said:
Also the same doctor that signed off these idiotic measures did so for Froome and has declined being part of the investigation, filthy filthy.
I have no idea why the doctor has done that. Clearly you have your suspicions, but that's all they can ever be in the absence of any evidence.Granfondo said:
okgo said:
Yeh, stripping fat away rapidly would be really counter productive for a cyclist needing to stick with the pure climbers in the TDF. lol.
Also the same doctor that signed off these idiotic measures did so for Froome and has declined being part of the investigation, filthy filthy.
Especially when these injections will keep doing their magic for 3-4 weeks coincidently the length of time of the TdF! Also the same doctor that signed off these idiotic measures did so for Froome and has declined being part of the investigation, filthy filthy.
Granfondo said:
popeyewhite said:
AndStilliRise said:
Lol, asthma! People with severe asthma can not walk up a hill in a park.
He quite obviously doesn't have severe asthma.popeyewhite said:
Granfondo said:
popeyewhite said:
AndStilliRise said:
Lol, asthma! People with severe asthma can not walk up a hill in a park.
He quite obviously doesn't have severe asthma.
Edited by Granfondo on Tuesday 13th March 13:55
Triamcinolone really is a wonder drug; according to reports it can discern between a healthy person, a slightly wheezy person, and someone completely f
ked.
In a healthy person, like David Millar, it can make you lose a shed load of weight, and retain all your power, and make you ride a bike like a superhero champ.
In it's normal clinical use, it can be the difference between life and death for someone who is fked with severe asthma.
But for a slightly wheezy person like Bradley Wiggins feeling a bit below par before a grand tour, it can take them back up to par but absolutely not exceed it in any way shape or form.
ked.In a healthy person, like David Millar, it can make you lose a shed load of weight, and retain all your power, and make you ride a bike like a superhero champ.
In it's normal clinical use, it can be the difference between life and death for someone who is f
ked with severe asthma. But for a slightly wheezy person like Bradley Wiggins feeling a bit below par before a grand tour, it can take them back up to par but absolutely not exceed it in any way shape or form.
Granfondo said:
Pro cyclists like Froome and Wiggins would already be at 3-4-% body fat and reducing "lean muscle mass" is exactly the point! ]
If you reduce muscle mass you also reduce power and endurance. Lean tissue has nothing to do with bodyfat so posting pictures of skinny people is somewhat pointless. Yes endurance cyclists don't need big muscles, but if catabolism takes place they will start to lose what they've got!JuniorD said:
Triamcinolone really is a wonder drug; according to reports it can discern between a healthy person, a slightly wheezy person, and someone completely fked.
In a healthy person, like David Millar, it can make you lose a shed load of weight, and retain all your power, and make you ride a bike like a superhero champ.
In it's normal clinical use, it can be the difference between life and death for someone who is fked with severe asthma.
But for a slightly wheezy person like Bradley Wiggins feeling a bit below par before a grand tour, it can take them back up to par but absolutely not exceed it in any way shape or form.
No No!ked.In a healthy person, like David Millar, it can make you lose a shed load of weight, and retain all your power, and make you ride a bike like a superhero champ.
In it's normal clinical use, it can be the difference between life and death for someone who is f
ked with severe asthma. But for a slightly wheezy person like Bradley Wiggins feeling a bit below par before a grand tour, it can take them back up to par but absolutely not exceed it in any way shape or form.
Popeye says it don't do nuffink for performance. There's no evidance see.
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