The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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lufbramatt

5,423 posts

140 months

Thursday 16th May
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Rosscow said:
It still is like that!

We're now in track season, opens every week, lots of races locally. Come September we'll be back into cross country and marathon training over winter.
Oh yes I know it's still like that smile But my days of 1500m running are long gone and running 5k or 10k on the track is soul destroying wink

Hopefully join a local club soon and do some XC this winter, always enjoyed that even though I was a bit too tall and heavy to be a decent XC runner.

Rosscow

8,980 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th May
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lufbramatt said:
Rosscow said:
It still is like that!

We're now in track season, opens every week, lots of races locally. Come September we'll be back into cross country and marathon training over winter.
Oh yes I know it's still like that smile But my days of 1500m running are long gone and running 5k or 10k on the track is soul destroying wink

Hopefully join a local club soon and do some XC this winter, always enjoyed that even though I was a bit too tall and heavy to be a decent XC runner.
Oh I agree, I don't run track races either. But I still use the Tuesday and Thursday night track sessions for my speed work/training.

It's nice to watch the other members that do compete, as well.

tim2100

6,287 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th May
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lufbramatt said:
I think a big issue for a lot of runners is the events are expensive and sell out quickly. I recently decided to get back into doing some racing, couldn't find a single local 10k over the summer that wasn't already fully booked. Entered one in September which cost me the best part of £25. I don't want to lose that money, obviosuly ou cant plan for illness or injury and would prefer to enter the week before but that's not an option.

Years ago when I ran for a club, it was track in the summer and XC in the winter. The club had two senior mens track teams, so add in open events and championships you could race most weekends (and weekdays too as there were mid week middle distance events organised by the BMC). If you were not feeling it one week then just skip it and do the next one. Or have a go at discus or long jump for a laugh. Very different way of thinking about racing compared to road racing, easier mentally but was hard to maintain form for a whole season.
Have a look at club 10k's rather than big 'Great Run' type 10k's.

quite a few 10k's by me with spaces still available across June, July & August. Some september events haven't launched yet.

tim2100

6,287 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th May
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Smitters said:
Oh my good God. That was tough. I'll write up a little race report and chuck up some photos once my brain unscrambles, but that is by far and away the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. My knee started giving me some pain on the downhills quite early on, but it was manageable. The knee based detonation was at about 80km, essentially on the second descent off Snowdon and for 30km my downhill pace ended up being slower than my climbing pace.

I did 6 hours of running, and the rest (25) were walking, in aid stations, or sitting on a downhill contemplating a chain of poor decisions. My last mile was a 7.45, but it as so good to stop moving afterwards. The terrain is massively unforgiving, which I knew, but adding in a hot day and some tight early cut-offs which meant pushing harder than I'd like in the first third. Lessons have been learnt about my preparation.

408 from 431, but there were 715 starters, so not far off my place goal of top half, albeit many hours off that.
incredible work well done. A couple of club mates ran this, both incredible distance runners, one tapped out at 50km, the other the following stop. Heat and water supplies appeared to be their main gripes.

lufbramatt

5,423 posts

140 months

Thursday 16th May
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tim2100 said:
Have a look at club 10k's rather than big 'Great Run' type 10k's.

quite a few 10k's by me with spaces still available across June, July & August. Some september events haven't launched yet.
Yep that's local events- I'm not a fan of the huge races. I'm in Kent. I think the coastal races which tend to be flatter fill up quickly.

I did have another look and found a potential option for a 10k in August though near Faversham.

Rosscow

8,980 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th May
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lufbramatt said:
Yep that's local events- I'm not a fan of the huge races. I'm in Kent. I think the coastal races which tend to be flatter fill up quickly.

I did have another look and found a potential option for a 10k in August though near Faversham.
There are quite a few, have a look at Nice Work (based in Rye):

https://www.nice-work.org.uk/calendars/sport-event...

Folkstone 10k 26th May

Rye 5 & 10 miles 19th May (just over the Kent border)

Charing 10k 14th June

Hawkhurst 5 & 10k 23rd June

Romney Marsh 10k 14th July

Loads to choose from!

markh1973

2,105 posts

174 months

Thursday 16th May
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Rosscow said:
lufbramatt said:
Yep that's local events- I'm not a fan of the huge races. I'm in Kent. I think the coastal races which tend to be flatter fill up quickly.

I did have another look and found a potential option for a 10k in August though near Faversham.
There are quite a few, have a look at Nice Work (based in Rye):

https://www.nice-work.org.uk/calendars/sport-event...

Folkstone 10k 26th May

Rye 5 & 10 miles 19th May (just over the Kent border)

Charing 10k 14th June

Hawkhurst 5 & 10k 23rd June

Romney Marsh 10k 14th July

Loads to choose from!
The flat races are the uninteresting ones - take a look at races like the High Elms 10k, Petts Wood 10k, Lullingstone 10k. You won't be running PBs but you will feel you've had a good race. My eldest has the course record for two of them - they're at least 3 to 4 minutes off his actual PB.

JimmyConwayNW

3,127 posts

131 months

Saturday 18th May
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Ran the Alderley edge 10k road run last weekend. Took from Sunday until Wednesday for my calve muscles to recover. I'm currently weighing in at 104kg and managed a 44:18 which was a recent PB for me. First 5k was also close to PB as managed 20.59 best ever was 20.33, need to break that 20 min barrier.

Loved having the pacer, stuck with the 42.30 pacer until km 7 and I just couldn't hack it anymore, had to back off at the 9k marker as felt I was going to puke, had a couple of coughs and kept it together and got back on it. Heat was unreal, I always find the first few runs when it goes hot hard to adjust to.

Realistically I think I can get my 5k down under 20 and maybe a sub 43min 10k to aim for before the end of the year.

Really well run event for anyone local organised by Run North West Wilmslow running shop.

Birdster

2,536 posts

149 months

Sunday 19th May
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Completed the Hackney Half today. Good crowds and well organised. The walk from Stratford station is a bit much but used it to warm up. Fast train home and chilling in the garden with our dog. Will pop open a beer soon. Had a lucky saint non alcoholic beer at the finish and it’s quite tasty.

I stupidly lost my top on the way home from collecting it yesterday. Just thought I’d ask on here in case anyone has one in a large or xl and doesn’t want it. I’d pay something for it please. Thanks in advance.

I’m going to sign up for next year. It was busier than last year. Or felt it. I think the events are getting more popular.


andy_s

19,544 posts

265 months

Sunday 19th May
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ben5575 said:
andy_s said:
ben5575 said:
+1

I have the mud talon speeds in wide fit and they are fantastic. Really comfortable on soft stuff although I find them (unsurprisingly) uncomfortable on hard stuff. They really inspire a lot of confidence. Do you still use their laces or have you swapped them out, if so what for?

I’ve just bought a pair of their new (non speed) trailflys for trail, drier fell running and training. I opted for the extra padding (over the speed version). Will report back once they been given to me for my birthday!
Thinking of the same, to get the standard Trailfly for those longer, ploddier days [when I'm back up there....horrible being off for 6 mths and climbing back up the metaphorical and literal hill...] - and no, haven't swapped laces!
Just a quick follow up to this. I've put around 40k on the new trailflys now including 25k on the fells. I'm struggling a bit with them if I'm honest. I bought the same size as the mud talons (11 wide), but my foot moves around far more in these. It feels like I'm running on side of the shoe rather than the insole on anything that isn't flat (which is obviously most of the time). I think it's because the toe box is so wide, it levers the shoe sideways. Something that didn't happen in the mudtalons though. Perhaps I should have sized down - something to bear in mind. A lot of this:

Cheers Ben that's good to know - as I said with the Mudtalons they seem to have a bigger/wider last in general than the old one so a wide in the wider Trailflys is like a super-wide perhaps, Bit annoying as I know what you mean about 'sloppyness' on the rough ground. Don't get me started on people changing/discontinuing kit that fits/works absolutely as you like in general :frothyrage: 'Why have you just bought 3 of the exact same light insulted smock Andrew?' 'Well....'

smn159

13,369 posts

223 months

Sunday 19th May
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Ran Brighton Marathon recently and then Buckingham Half last weekend so thought I'd give my legs a change and do an hour or so on the bike for the first time this year.

Jesus wept, cycling is hard if you aren't used to it! No flat routes around here and legs like jelly going up a couple of 8% hills... No races on the cards for a while so going to try and mix in a bike ride or two every week... my PBs at 5 and 10k both came while I was both cycling and running so will see what happens..

ben5575

6,608 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th May
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Did my first ever organised trail run today at Derwent Reservoir. I say trail but it consisted of running on paths and a whole 19m of elevation across 10k biggrin

So not a challenging run other than I’d never done a ‘proper’ race before, so had no idea of what I could run and as such how to pace myself. Ran way too slow for the first 8k then sped up for the last two for a 53min.

I love running but I’m new to it, so still trying to find my feet. I’m glad I did it for the experience, but running against a clock just doesn’t really excite me. Perhaps that’s just down to the dull course. Might try a half trail or short 25k ultra next.

fiatpower

3,173 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th May
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ben5575 said:
short 25k ultra next.
So not an ultra then biggrin.

I did the Cannock chase trail half marathon yesterday. 1800ft elevation gain through some brilliant trails. Some horrible hills though. The worst was a set of 3 or 4 (I lost count) rolling hills with no respite over roughly a mile. The uphill was almost a scramble on all fours and the downhill was so steep it hammered the quads. I hadn’t really done any training over 8 miles so really struggled for the last few miles.

I generally feel ok today but the side of my
Quads, probably the top of my IT band, is seriously sore. A few foam rolling session was almost rear inducing!

ben5575

6,608 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th May
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fiatpower said:
ben5575 said:
short 25k ultra next.
So not an ultra then biggrin.

I did the Cannock chase trail half marathon yesterday. 1800ft elevation gain through some brilliant trails. Some horrible hills though. The worst was a set of 3 or 4 (I lost count) rolling hills with no respite over roughly a mile. The uphill was almost a scramble on all fours and the downhill was so steep it hammered the quads. I hadn’t really done any training over 8 miles so really struggled for the last few miles.

I generally feel ok today but the side of my
Quads, probably the top of my IT band, is seriously sore. A few foam rolling session was almost rear inducing!
biggrin hey I’m just quoting the websites: https://www.maverick-race.com/products/the-maveric...

See now that run out seems like more ‘fun’. Sounds like you had a great time smile

egor110

17,335 posts

209 months

Sunday 19th May
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ben5575 said:
fiatpower said:
ben5575 said:
short 25k ultra next.
So not an ultra then biggrin.

I did the Cannock chase trail half marathon yesterday. 1800ft elevation gain through some brilliant trails. Some horrible hills though. The worst was a set of 3 or 4 (I lost count) rolling hills with no respite over roughly a mile. The uphill was almost a scramble on all fours and the downhill was so steep it hammered the quads. I hadn’t really done any training over 8 miles so really struggled for the last few miles.

I generally feel ok today but the side of my
Quads, probably the top of my IT band, is seriously sore. A few foam rolling session was almost rear inducing!
biggrin hey I’m just quoting the websites: https://www.maverick-race.com/products/the-maveric...

See now that run out seems like more ‘fun’. Sounds like you had a great time smile
It doesn't say it's a short ultra on the website.

Maverick are pretty good races to do though .

I'd find a club and run with them , get talked into race then after trying a few see what floats your boat .

fiatpower

3,173 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th May
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ben5575 said:
biggrin hey I’m just quoting the websites: https://www.maverick-race.com/products/the-maveric...

See now that run out seems like more ‘fun’. Sounds like you had a great time smile
Yeah it was a great race. I should really do more trail races as they’re a lot more enjoyable than road running.

markh1973

2,105 posts

174 months

Monday 20th May
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egor110 said:
ben5575 said:
fiatpower said:
ben5575 said:
short 25k ultra next.
So not an ultra then biggrin.

I did the Cannock chase trail half marathon yesterday. 1800ft elevation gain through some brilliant trails. Some horrible hills though. The worst was a set of 3 or 4 (I lost count) rolling hills with no respite over roughly a mile. The uphill was almost a scramble on all fours and the downhill was so steep it hammered the quads. I hadn’t really done any training over 8 miles so really struggled for the last few miles.

I generally feel ok today but the side of my
Quads, probably the top of my IT band, is seriously sore. A few foam rolling session was almost rear inducing!
biggrin hey I’m just quoting the websites: https://www.maverick-race.com/products/the-maveric...

See now that run out seems like more ‘fun’. Sounds like you had a great time smile
It doesn't say it's a short ultra on the website.

Maverick are pretty good races to do though .

I'd find a club and run with them , get talked into race then after trying a few see what floats your boat .
The "Long" would annoy me if I did it so close to a marathon but just falling short.

I'm running the Fox 62 (oddly named when the GPX track is a shade shy of 64km) - first time back over a HM since 2022. Very flat for a trail ultra in that part of the world which isn't my favoured terrain but we'll see what happens.

https://www.runthrough.co.uk/event/the-fox-trail-2...

wrencho

305 posts

71 months

Monday 20th May
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ran our local half marathon yesterday, first time pushing my disabled son in his buggy (a Delichon Delta) and ran 1.38....would have been a bit quicker but I got him out to walk over the line and he was pissing about waving to people. Lost about two minutes and twenty places!

JimmyConwayNW

3,127 posts

131 months

Monday 20th May
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andy_s said:
Cheers Ben that's good to know - as I said with the Mudtalons they seem to have a bigger/wider last in general than the old one so a wide in the wider Trailflys is like a super-wide perhaps, Bit annoying as I know what you mean about 'sloppyness' on the rough ground. Don't get me started on people changing/discontinuing kit that fits/works absolutely as you like in general :frothyrage: 'Why have you just bought 3 of the exact same light insulted smock Andrew?' 'Well....'
Saucony Endorphin pro 3 the best trainer I have ever used.
Saucony Endorphin pro 4 like some sort of leg torture device designed to provide pain for many days after running biggrin

Why did they have to change them.

Steve vRS

5,023 posts

247 months

Monday 20th May
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wrencho said:
ran our local half marathon yesterday, first time pushing my disabled son in his buggy (a Delichon Delta) and ran 1.38....would have been a bit quicker but I got him out to walk over the line and he was pissing about waving to people. Lost about two minutes and twenty places!
Good effort biggrin