brooks saddle for road bike

brooks saddle for road bike

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princeperch

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7,953 posts

249 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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I am very tempted to treat myself to a brooks swift saddle for the road bike

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/brooks/swift-s...

does anyone have one or has anyone had one?

I have a B17 champion on my brompton which is very nice and took no time to break in at all - would I still get the same kind of comfort with a swift even though there is less leather for the old backside to sit on?

I have a voucher which means I'll pay about 75 quid I think. I also have a new honey coloured B17 which I'll put on ebay for 45 quid to off set the cost. Still, its a lot of cash to spend. It does look smart though...


Saddle bum

4,211 posts

221 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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For tourists only, too heavy for a pukka road bike.

Randy Winkman

16,449 posts

191 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Saddle bum said:
For tourists only, too heavy for a pukka road bike.
Does saddle weight actually matter very much?

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

221 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Randy Winkman said:
Saddle bum said:
For tourists only, too heavy for a pukka road bike.
Does saddle weight actually matter very much?
IMO, on a road bike, weight really does matter. Adding extra grammes when there is a lighter alternative component seems illogical.

Parsnip

3,123 posts

190 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Randy Winkman said:
Saddle bum said:
For tourists only, too heavy for a pukka road bike.
Does saddle weight actually matter very much?
No, but it is one of the cheapest weight savings you can make.

On the flipside, a saddle being comfy is more important than it being light.

If you are going to stick it on a £6000 Dogma or something, it will look stupid and it is a really daft thing to have on there. If you are going to stick it on a £900 Planet X it will still look a bit daft, but who cares?

DrMekon

2,492 posts

218 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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One guy I know has a swift (or a swallow, can't remember) on his unreasonably light custom Ti Serotta with full Record. If it's good enough for him...

My B17C took 400km to break in (a week and a half at my mileage), I've done 10000km on it this year, and it's never been less that perfectly comfortable. Not even a twinge of discomfort on my 330km ride over the summer.

Some of the posher ones (eg team pro) can take a lot longer. Google it to check you aren't buying one that will break you before you break it.

princeperch

Original Poster:

7,953 posts

249 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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I thought it looked pretty cool. It's very slim and shallow so I'm not sure it would weigh all that much more than a bog standard plastic saddle...

shalmaneser

5,946 posts

197 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Get a Ti one, they're light and comfy!

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

221 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Suggesting a saddle to someone else is like arranging a marriage, not he best idea in the World.

However my bum likes Flyte Genuine Gel, I use them on both my bikes.

darkyoung1000

2,065 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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I had a Brooks saddle on my first road bike and had to replace the saddle because it was so uncomfortable that the pressure on my barse meant I couldn't feel my nuts after about 20 miles.
Ultimately however, different people fit different saddles, and the only way to find out what works for you is to test ride it.
Good luck in finding comfort (Selle Italia C2 Gelflow convert)!

Cheers,
Tom

Chris-R

756 posts

189 months

Wednesday 27th October 2010
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Logic? Phooey.

My new Brooks Alpe d'Huez arrived today. Gorgeous and cheesey all at once... Yum! smile



Edited by Chris-R on Wednesday 27th October 14:45

princeperch

Original Poster:

7,953 posts

249 months

Wednesday 27th October 2010
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oooooh.

I fancy getting one of them. I have also actually done the A-D-H...

Chris-R

756 posts

189 months

Wednesday 27th October 2010
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princeperch said:
oooooh.

I fancy getting one of them. I have also actually done the A-D-H...
Go on, you've earned it! wink

fixedwheelnut

743 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th October 2010
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Another vote for the Titanium Swift, very comfortable saddle and easier to break in than the B17.
I've done PBP and LEL on mine with no rear end problems.

As for weight it's no good having a light saddle if it ends up so uncomfortable you cannot sit on it, go to the start of any long distance Audax ride and the common denominators between all the different bikes will be a Brooks saddle and a Schmidt front dynamo hub. smile

CooperS

4,510 posts

221 months

Wednesday 27th October 2010
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A couple of questions for someone who can appreciate the style and history of brooks but hasn't yet ventured into purchasing such a saddle.

Right first off i know on my Spech Tarmac it may look out of place but doing a quick scan of the internet throws up loads of comments such as those expressed above i.e. very comfy once broken in and far superior to weeny weight saddles from flite and spech etc.

How long does a saddle take to break in? They seem silly hard in the shoop so i'm guessing a while and once broken in is it the fact that riders for so long have been in discomfort that once it does soften anything is better than when they first started using it.

Chris-R

756 posts

189 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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CooperS said:
A couple of questions for someone who can appreciate the style and history of brooks but hasn't yet ventured into purchasing such a saddle.

Right first off i know on my Spech Tarmac it may look out of place but doing a quick scan of the internet throws up loads of comments such as those expressed above i.e. very comfy once broken in and far superior to weeny weight saddles from flite and spech etc.

How long does a saddle take to break in? They seem silly hard in the shoop so i'm guessing a while and once broken in is it the fact that riders for so long have been in discomfort that once it does soften anything is better than when they first started using it.
It may be that a Brooks never gets softer, it just makes your arse more leathery... smile

The Walrus

1,857 posts

207 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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Chris-R said:
CooperS said:
A couple of questions for someone who can appreciate the style and history of brooks but hasn't yet ventured into purchasing such a saddle.

Right first off i know on my Spech Tarmac it may look out of place but doing a quick scan of the internet throws up loads of comments such as those expressed above i.e. very comfy once broken in and far superior to weeny weight saddles from flite and spech etc.

How long does a saddle take to break in? They seem silly hard in the shoop so i'm guessing a while and once broken in is it the fact that riders for so long have been in discomfort that once it does soften anything is better than when they first started using it.
It may be that a Brooks never gets softer, it just makes your arse more leathery... smile
I thought that it was all to do with the fact the leather takes time to be broken in or moulded to your shape ?

OneDs

1,628 posts

178 months

Thursday 28th October 2010
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Quotes on other site mention in general a few hundred or so miles with a few extremes, so that would be about 5 or so decent rides. I suppose it's just like a good pair of shoes that get more comfy after a few days and are at there most comfy just before they fall apart.

fixedwheelnut

743 posts

234 months

Friday 29th October 2010
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CooperS said:
A couple of questions for someone who can appreciate the style and history of brooks but hasn't yet ventured into purchasing such a saddle.

Right first off i know on my Spech Tarmac it may look out of place but doing a quick scan of the internet throws up loads of comments such as those expressed above i.e. very comfy once broken in and far superior to weeny weight saddles from flite and spech etc.

How long does a saddle take to break in? They seem silly hard in the shoop so i'm guessing a while and once broken in is it the fact that riders for so long have been in discomfort that once it does soften anything is better than when they first started using it.
I think it depends on the saddle as well, I had a Brooks Proffessional that was purgatory for the first few rides up to 50 miles but eventually comfy after 150miles.

A B17 took about 90 miles to be comfy on another bike.

The Titanium Swift was OK after about thirty miles.

@ ChrisR biggrin I reckon you might be right about 60% breaking the saddle in and 40% breaking your arse in smile

Edited by fixedwheelnut on Friday 29th October 23:32

mchammer89

3,127 posts

215 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Forget about weight, make sure it's comfortable. It's no good saving a few grams meaning you can travel that extra few metres with the same amount of energy if your arse is raw after a few miles.