Strava

[Dan Friel]

I've compared using a garmin watch and the iPhone app. Won't ever use the app again.. massive differences.

[DrMekon]

Did a lunchtime run with a mate from work. We ran side-by-side. She tracked it on iphone, I tracked it on a garmin (etrex 30 with glonass on). Her track added >600m over 9.8km.

If you like Strava, getting a proper gps is inevitable I reckon.

[Dizeee]

Phone apps to track via GPS are a waste of time. Buying a Garmin was prob the best thing I ever did for my cycling. You don't know how crap the phone trace is until you buy one.

[gazza285]

I've used Strava on my iPhone for 151 rides, and not had any dropouts yet. Do you have lead lined pockets or something?

[gazza285]

http://tewha.net/2011/10/how-the-iphone-gps-differ...

[kiethton]

I downloaded this on Thursday to monitor my Orpington to the city commute and other than Friday morning not uploading properly (and a dropout without fail in chislehurst woods due to no mobile signal) it works as a good benchmark for seeing the pace of my commutes

[TheFungle]

Dizeee said:

Phone apps to track via GPS are a waste of time. Buying a Garmin was prob the best thing I ever did for my cycling. You don't know how crap the phone trace is until you buy one.

Strange how my iPhone app ends up having pretty much identical data to my mates Garmin as well as other iPhones.

[andyscole]

TheFungle said:

Dizeee said:

Phone apps to track via GPS are a waste of time. Buying a Garmin was prob the best thing I ever did for my cycling. You don't know how crap the phone trace is until you buy one.

Strange how my iPhone app ends up having pretty much identical data to my mates Garmin as well as other iPhones.

I'm with you had 1 problems in nearly 2 years and last week my ride was nearly identical to my mates Garmin (use iPhone 5 which I think is better than iPhone 4).

[MadDad]

I am sure that the iPhone app gives spurious readings.

There is a chap local to me who seems to rack up dozens of KOM's yet has a relatively low average speed on almost all of his rides, and at best rides 80 miles a week.

He took a KOM riding solo this week on a segment that I rode chaingang a month or so ago with some very accomplished and fast riders. We were breathing through our chamois by the end of this 2 mile segment and only managed to place 4th, yet this chap smashed us riding solo by several seconds.

All of us use Garmins and had exactly the same readings over the section, this chap uses iPhone app - go figure.......

[ALawson]

Afternoon, any reason for segments not to appear on your ride summary if you have ridden the exact route as it appears?

iPhone user here, but don't really like riding with a 63Gb 4s in case it gets broken. May need to get a Garmin, which is the best to tie up with a wahoo HRM and cadence kit?

Ta.

Alex

[Jimbo.]

MadDad said:

I am sure that the iPhone app gives spurious readings.

There is a chap local to me who seems to rack up dozens of KOM's yet has a relatively low average speed on almost all of his rides, and at best rides 80 miles a week.

He took a KOM riding solo this week on a segment that I rode chaingang a month or so ago with some very accomplished and fast riders. We were breathing through our chamois by the end of this 2 mile segment and only managed to place 4th, yet this chap smashed us riding solo by several seconds.

All of us use Garmins and had exactly the same readings over the section, this chap uses iPhone app - go figure.......

Either he's a weapon who trains smart, or he's a Strava hunter.

[Dizeee]

ALawson said:

Afternoon, any reason for segments not to appear on your ride summary if you have ridden the exact route as it appears?

iPhone user here, but don't really like riding with a 63Gb 4s in case it gets broken. May need to get a Garmin, which is the best to tie up with a wahoo HRM and cadence kit?

Ta.

Alex

I used to get that a fair bit when I used my phone to track, usually the. Re is a Slight skew on the data trail. Havebt had that issue with the Garmin.

[ALawson]

Cheers, I have only used it twice and have been very lazy of late. Not taking the segments to seriously but good fun.

I reckon if I can get out and do 2 lots of 30 mins during the week in the evenings and then something longer on a weekend then I will keep the fitness levels up!

[scubadude]

Iphone5 user, tracks and speeds match with Garmin 500 and GPSMAP60 handheld so happy to use phone on its own with the Strava App.

I have noticed the phone is "better" (IMVHO) if you make sure its "face up" in your back pocket, perhaps the sensor is under the screen side?

[MadDad]

Anyone have any idea how Strava decides what is a popular segment and what isn't?

I managed to place 3rd out of 1084 in a segment yesterday but didn't notice as Strava didn't put a cup against the segment, apparently it is not popular despite the fact it has had over 1000 riders through it! Very odd........

[TonyHetherington]

MadDad said:

I am sure that the iPhone app gives spurious readings.

There is a chap local to me who seems to rack up dozens of KOM's yet has a relatively low average speed on almost all of his rides, and at best rides 80 miles a week.

He took a KOM riding solo this week on a segment that I rode chaingang a month or so ago with some very accomplished and fast riders. We were breathing through our chamois by the end of this 2 mile segment and only managed to place 4th, yet this chap smashed us riding solo by several seconds.

All of us use Garmins and had exactly the same readings over the section, this chap uses iPhone app - go figure.......

I had a similarly odd occurence a few weeks ago. I use a Garmin 500 and upload to Strava, but always have my phone going in my pocket too just as a personal thing to rack up the mileage on my phone. (iphone 4).

I did a ride with a friend of mine - 65 mile sportive around Kent - and my Garmin died for about 5 miles. So I used my phone data to upload to strava. I had something like 30 "trophies" (some KOMs, some places etc) whereas uploading the Garmin data (with missing 5 miles) I had a couple. My friend, who I rode with at the same pace the whole way round, also had a couple.

I don't know if there are different segments, one made with an iphone one with a garmin, but simply put you do seem to get far more KOMs or achievments with phones than you do with Garmin. The science behind it I've no idea.

[Raven Flyer]

Jimbo. said:

MadDad said:

I am sure that the iPhone app gives spurious readings.

There is a chap local to me who seems to rack up dozens of KOM's yet has a relatively low average speed on almost all of his rides, and at best rides 80 miles a week.

He took a KOM riding solo this week on a segment that I rode chaingang a month or so ago with some very accomplished and fast riders. We were breathing through our chamois by the end of this 2 mile segment and only managed to place 4th, yet this chap smashed us riding solo by several seconds.

All of us use Garmins and had exactly the same readings over the section, this chap uses iPhone app - go figure.......

Either he's a weapon who trains smart, or he's a Strava hunter.

A car driven at just the right speed, using the Strava app, will get you KOM anywhere you want. Unless a KOM has cadence or HR, I don't believe it.

[Silver940]

ALawson said:

Afternoon, any reason for segments not to appear on your ride summary if you have ridden the exact route as it appears?

iPhone user here, but don't really like riding with a 63Gb 4s in case it gets broken. May need to get a Garmin, which is the best to tie up with a wahoo HRM and cadence kit?

Ta.

Alex

I've had that and when you look very close you find that due to the sampling rate you can miss the start or end point of the segment especially if it's near a corner.

I had my brother in law follow me on my wheel through a segment recently, I was using endomondo on an Android phone to log and upload later, he had a Garmin 200. He logged 4 seconds quicker!

[Kermit power]

Have you ever tried to create a segment and it hasn't bought back any other ride details for it?

I created this one last night as I wanted to see how much faster I would have gone on it with my new CX bike, as it's a combination of rough, potholed track and smooth, flat tarmac.

As of this morning, however, there are no other ride details on it. I suppose it's possible that nobody else has ever ridden it - although there are people who've ridden the track and people who've ridden the road - but I've ridden it myself probably 100+ times, yet when I look in "my results", it's only showing the one ride from which I created it last night.

Any ideas?

ETA - Ignore this. Just saw the following on the site:

Strava said:

New segments not matching any rides (no leaderboard entries)

We are currently experiencing some problems with the database that matches new segments to all previously uploaded activities. So we've turned this process off for the time being and rides will only be matched to existing segments.

Essentially, new segments will not match any older rides so leaderboards for any newly created segments won't be populated with previous uploaded activities. We're working with our Host to get this fixed but it may take a day or so. We're working to get this fixed ASAP.

Thanks for your patience!

[thiscocks]

I don't believe any times that are faster than mine. Its just not possible to go any faster.