little fvcker playing chicken with me
Discussion
R2FU said:
Sorry to be a dissenting voice but regardless of the rights and wrongs of what he did I'm not sure deliberately riding into the bloke is to be commended. Let's say you catch him wrong, he falls badly and smashes his head in and witnesses say you took no avoiding action. Seems you're a solicitor, what would the law say on that?
Sorry to sound a bit namby pamby but my point is not that he didn't 'deserve' it, just that it's not really worth you taking the risk. Or in another scenario you fall off as a result of an avoidable collision and smash your own head in. Is some smart-ass t
t really worth that risk?
There was a case in Dublin about ten years back of a courier riding the wrong way up a one way street. A ped stepped out without looking, then either fell or was knocked back towards the curb (can't remember which). The ped bashed his head and died, something to do with an undiagnosed aneurism getting popped. Anyway, the cyclist got jail time and was so destroyed by guilt and prison that he became a junkie and ended up dead. Was apparently a really nice, balanced bloke before the original incident.Sorry to sound a bit namby pamby but my point is not that he didn't 'deserve' it, just that it's not really worth you taking the risk. Or in another scenario you fall off as a result of an avoidable collision and smash your own head in. Is some smart-ass t
t really worth that risk?
HundredthIdiot said:
There was a case in Dublin about ten years back of a courier riding the wrong way up a one way street. A ped stepped out without looking, then either fell or was knocked back towards the curb (can't remember which). The ped bashed his head and died, something to do with an undiagnosed aneurism getting popped. Anyway, the cyclist got jail time and was so destroyed by guilt and prison that he became a junkie and ended up dead. Was apparently a really nice, balanced bloke before the original incident.
The thin skull rule - yes this is possible. I took my chances in deciding to not capitulate to the little s
t. Cycling into him wheel first is a bit different to us coming to blows shoulder to chest IMO. okgo said:
Well done. People like this you are tts.
Dayglo urban terrorist on your pushbike ts. 
Use your brakes, Give them a mouthfull by all means. Don't knock them flat out. Say he/she'd smacked their head on the kerb on the way down? Darwin is waiting for them anyway.Chillpill required
FWDRacer said:
Dayglo urban terrorist on your pushbike Use your brakes, Give them a mouthfull by all means. Don't knock them flat out. Say he/she'd smacked their head on the kerb on the way down? Darwin is waiting for them anyway.
Chillpill required
f Use your brakes, Give them a mouthfull by all means. Don't knock them flat out. Say he/she'd smacked their head on the kerb on the way down? Darwin is waiting for them anyway.Chillpill required
k that.If people knowingly take the piss then they're going to get whats coming to them.
FWDRacer said:
Dayglo urban terrorist on your pushbike Use your brakes, Give them a mouthfull by all means. Don't knock them flat out. Say he/she'd smacked their head on the kerb on the way down? Darwin is waiting for them anyway.
Chillpill required
Ok - so what happens if he did this to my missus. She weighs about half what I weigh and is less street wise than me, and probably wouldnt have realised what he was up to. She would have probably been knocked clean off - and there was a bus no more than about 12ft away to my right. Use your brakes, Give them a mouthfull by all means. Don't knock them flat out. Say he/she'd smacked their head on the kerb on the way down? Darwin is waiting for them anyway.Chillpill required
I dont want to come across as citizen smith here but this chap tried to act like berty big potatoes here in what could have been a very dangerous game, and he lost. As someone else said, lets hope he takes it on the chin and doesnt try do it again. He is bloody lucky he didnt do it to my weekend cycling partner - he would have probably gone back and broken every finger on each hand (but he is a bit of a nut job).
FWDRacer said:
Inevitably they'll get what they are due or probably in this case, grow out of being a bell end. Why puts yourself at risk of being prosecuted, or worse still the guilt associated with braining someone and they end up in a wheelchair/coma/dead?
OKGO - Seems you need a chillpill too
Ahem, this was karma delivering what was due OKGO - Seems you need a chillpill too
If you ride in London you'll see that chillpills are irrelevant.
I have a short fuse anyway, that's just life isn't it, some drivers are more pleasant than others. Sadly I'm probably less pleasant than some cyclists, and if people want to give it the large one I've no qaulms with a confrontation as its down right stupid and dangerous, and it doesn't need to happen.
I have a short fuse anyway, that's just life isn't it, some drivers are more pleasant than others. Sadly I'm probably less pleasant than some cyclists, and if people want to give it the large one I've no qaulms with a confrontation as its down right stupid and dangerous, and it doesn't need to happen.
Do people realise that a fall is highly unlikely to kill anyone? I know we can all quote some news article where a freak accident happened and a bang to the head killed someone, but these things are extremely rare andI dont think you need to walk around (or ride around) worried that if you got into a confrontation, you might kill the person by knocking them over.
People fall off bikes, get into fights, trip and fall, play stuntmen, etc all the time and dont die or kill anyone, the amount of times I wiped out on my bike and hit the road, especially back in the days of BMX'ing and skateboarding, I saw some great falls and no one died, so despite the odd very rare case, I dont think we need to walk about thinking about the risks of killing someone by knocking them down.
BTW, I think you did the right thing, this person was probably used to getting away with things like that and got his comeupance, hopefully teach him a lesson.
People fall off bikes, get into fights, trip and fall, play stuntmen, etc all the time and dont die or kill anyone, the amount of times I wiped out on my bike and hit the road, especially back in the days of BMX'ing and skateboarding, I saw some great falls and no one died, so despite the odd very rare case, I dont think we need to walk about thinking about the risks of killing someone by knocking them down.
BTW, I think you did the right thing, this person was probably used to getting away with things like that and got his comeupance, hopefully teach him a lesson.
Fair enough, each to their own. Personally I came to the conclusion a long time ago that trying to teach other people lessons like these is a losing battle. Rightly or wrongly I now leave putting the world to rights to others while I direct my energy into other things that are more important to me personally.
I suppose it's a matter of where you draw the line - there are some things which if I witnessed going about my daily business I would feel compelled to get involved in, but this kind of thing for me does not fall into that category.
Not trying to sound preachy - your life, your choices.
I suppose it's a matter of where you draw the line - there are some things which if I witnessed going about my daily business I would feel compelled to get involved in, but this kind of thing for me does not fall into that category.
Not trying to sound preachy - your life, your choices.
I had sort of the opposite incident.
Was riding up the inside of a line of traffic (road works) plenty of room, minimal danger. A Mum and two kids crossing between the cars saw me coming (on bright yellow recumbent) and just stepped into the gap then stood watching me approach, at 30ft I rang the bell politely and they just stood there staring!
Ended up stopping and saying (slightly out of breath) "Excuse me" and the Mum replied- "Okay, was only looking" slightly indignant at being sked to move as if I should have stopped to let them stare!
I don't mind people being curious but standing in the road is hardly something to teach your kids (looked about 6-7yr olds) hope they don't do it when an odd car or lorry approaches!
Was riding up the inside of a line of traffic (road works) plenty of room, minimal danger. A Mum and two kids crossing between the cars saw me coming (on bright yellow recumbent) and just stepped into the gap then stood watching me approach, at 30ft I rang the bell politely and they just stood there staring!
Ended up stopping and saying (slightly out of breath) "Excuse me" and the Mum replied- "Okay, was only looking" slightly indignant at being sked to move as if I should have stopped to let them stare!
I don't mind people being curious but standing in the road is hardly something to teach your kids (looked about 6-7yr olds) hope they don't do it when an odd car or lorry approaches!
Tokoloshe said:
Do people realise that a fall is highly unlikely to kill anyone?
It is? phew, that's ok thenI know a bloke who did 5 years for punching someone, knocked them down. The lad banged his head, went to the hospital later, was dead within hours.
it might be rare, but the consequences are very bad for those rare occasions
top marks to the OP for standing up to him 
yes, I know, it's stupid, dangerous, irresponsible etc, but the point is by not giving in there's at least a chance our friend will have realised being a dick has consequences - and therefore won't be repeating the act in front of others. I don't see how some act of blind bad luck that ends up killing him makes a difference - he shouldn't have taken the risk.
yes, I know, it's stupid, dangerous, irresponsible etc, but the point is by not giving in there's at least a chance our friend will have realised being a dick has consequences - and therefore won't be repeating the act in front of others. I don't see how some act of blind bad luck that ends up killing him makes a difference - he shouldn't have taken the risk.
Hugo a Gogo said:
It is? phew, that's ok then
I know a bloke who did 5 years for punching someone, knocked them down. The lad banged his head, went to the hospital later, was dead within hours.
it might be rare, but the consequences are very bad for those rare occasions
I would argue it was the OP's safest option. Slam on the brakes for some dick? Over the handlebars or front washout. Out of control under a bus/ taxi/ car etc. At cycling speeds there is far more danger to the cyclist and very simply if you want to "play", especially with an unknown oponent, you should go into the game prepared to lose.I know a bloke who did 5 years for punching someone, knocked them down. The lad banged his head, went to the hospital later, was dead within hours.
it might be rare, but the consequences are very bad for those rare occasions
Gooby said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
It is? phew, that's ok then
I know a bloke who did 5 years for punching someone, knocked them down. The lad banged his head, went to the hospital later, was dead within hours.
it might be rare, but the consequences are very bad for those rare occasions
I would argue it was the OP's safest option. Slam on the brakes for some dick? Over the handlebars or front washout. Out of control under a bus/ taxi/ car etc. At cycling speeds there is far more danger to the cyclist and very simply if you want to "play", especially with an unknown oponent, you should go into the game prepared to lose.I know a bloke who did 5 years for punching someone, knocked them down. The lad banged his head, went to the hospital later, was dead within hours.
it might be rare, but the consequences are very bad for those rare occasions
Gooby said:
I would argue it was the OP's safest option. Slam on the brakes for some dick? Over the handlebars or front washout. Out of control under a bus/ taxi/ car etc. At cycling speeds there is far more danger to the cyclist and very simply if you want to "play", especially with an unknown oponent, you should go into the game prepared to lose.
Collide with obstacle safer than braking - hmm, great advice, thanks for sharing. 
okgo said:
fk that.
If people knowingly take the piss then they're going to get whats coming to them.
Thanks for that, next time a lycra clad mong on a bike rides through a red light at me on the pedestrian crossing by Faringdon Road station, its fine for me to kick the mong in the face.k that.If people knowingly take the piss then they're going to get whats coming to them.
I will enjoy that, the question is can I get 10 of the sods at the same time!
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