SPDs and flat shoes

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essayer

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9,120 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I have Shimano M424 SPDs on the bike, they have an outer cage around the SPD-bit which lets you use flat shoes and still pedal.

However, the SPD-bit protrudes above the cage meaning that most of the pedalling pressure is centred on a very small area. As you can guess, leather-soled shoes are quickly ruined by this ! My rubber soled ones don't fare much better.

I tried swapping between M424's and flat pedals during the week but that got boring fast.

Other than wear different shoes on the commute (it's not far, and I don't want to lug a second pair of shoes through London) what else can I do ? Can you buy 'clip-in' flat plates, for example ?

jayfish

6,795 posts

205 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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leave your shoes at work and wear spd cycling ones for the commute?

Engineer1

10,486 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I'm sure I've seen clip in flat plates, there are also some spd pedals that are flats one side spd the other but I suspect almost any decent pedal will damage a leather soled shoe, hell the crank arms and general cycling probably isn't good for work shoes.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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essayer said:
I have Shimano M424 SPDs on the bike, they have an outer cage around the SPD-bit which lets you use flat shoes and still pedal.

However, the SPD-bit protrudes above the cage meaning that most of the pedalling pressure is centred on a very small area. As you can guess, leather-soled shoes are quickly ruined by this ! My rubber soled ones don't fare much better.

I tried swapping between M424's and flat pedals during the week but that got boring fast.

Other than wear different shoes on the commute (it's not far, and I don't want to lug a second pair of shoes through London) what else can I do ? Can you buy 'clip-in' flat plates, for example ?
Aren't you supposed to turn the pedals over when wearing flat shoes, so there's no clip on that side?

essayer

Original Poster:

9,120 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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HereBeMonsters said:
Aren't you supposed to turn the pedals over when wearing flat shoes, so there's no clip on that side?
They are the same on both sides.

I don't fancy wearing SPD shoes on the commute as I walk quite a bit at the other end !

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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essayer said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Aren't you supposed to turn the pedals over when wearing flat shoes, so there's no clip on that side?
They are the same on both sides.

I don't fancy wearing SPD shoes on the commute as I walk quite a bit at the other end !
Bizarre. I once purchased a bike which came with those Shimano things. They had a silver centre, and black cage. SPD clip on one side, cage on the other for a flattie.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

248 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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The pedals on the Schwinn spin bikes at my gym have plastic platforms with moulded-in toeclips which snap into the SPD clips - these, or some cut-down Pyro Platforms might be your answer.

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

214 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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My M540s came with these on one side that clip into the cleats. I've taken them off now but they were handy whilst getting used to clipping in / out


essayer

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9,120 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Hmm those might just be the ticket. Do they have a shimano part no or name?

sjg

7,469 posts

267 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Those types aren't meant for use with non-SPD shoes - the extra "platform" around is there to give more support to the (SPD) shoe when clipped in.

What you want is something with a real platform on one side, like this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod... or this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

214 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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essayer said:
Hmm those might just be the ticket. Do they have a shimano part no or name?
sm-pd22

They are sold as a 'flat pedal kit' so imagine they would be ok as flats, if a bit small.

Bungleaio

6,341 posts

204 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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sjg said:
Those types aren't meant for use with non-SPD shoes - the extra "platform" around is there to give more support to the (SPD) shoe when clipped in.

What you want is something with a real platform on one side, like this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...
I've had a set of these fitted to my new bike so that I can use it for trips where none spd shoes are more appropriate. So far so good and they work a treat.

essayer

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9,120 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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sjg said:
Those types aren't meant for use with non-SPD shoes - the extra "platform" around is there to give more support to the (SPD) shoe when clipped in.

What you want is something with a real platform on one side, like this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod... or this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?Mod...
Ahh yes good spot.

Hmm, £30 .. maybe I should just buy a cheap bike for the commute wink

I wonder if those flat pedal kits are going to fit on the pedals I have already - I suspect the cage might get in the way. Looks like I bought the wrong ones to start with! Never mind ..

Trevelyan

718 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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I've got Shimano M324s on my mountain bike and they've been problem free for about 1800 miles now. I don't know how leather shoes will wear with them but I've never noticed any problems with the normal rubber soled approach type shoes I use for cycling.

mchammer89

3,127 posts

215 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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Get clipless MTB shoes as opposed to clipless road shoes, the MTB shoes are designed to be walked in.

WeirdNeville

5,987 posts

217 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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The model number escapes me, but Shimano do a set of pedals with a completely flat cage one side, and SPD clip the other side. I have them, they're ace. Flipping them over becomes second nature.

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

226 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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I also use M324 pedals...

http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cyc...

There are perfect for what you are looking for.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

208 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Another vote for half-halfs here, my personal choice being Shimano A530s as they look less out of place on a road bike.

The other thing I will echo is that there are plenty of SPD shoes that are perfectly normal to walk in. It's only really the roadie SPD-SL's and similar with the exposed cleats that cause problems.

Burrow01

1,835 posts

194 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Raven Flyer said:
I also use M324 pedals...

http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/global_cyc...

There are perfect for what you are looking for.
Got those, and they work very well for me

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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shouldbworking said:
My M540s came with these on one side that clip into the cleats. I've taken them off now but they were handy whilst getting used to clipping in / out

Aren't those just on so the bike shop can legally sell you a SPD bike with pedal reflectors? I'm not sure they're a very stable pedalling platform.