Scam / Ripped Off - Some help
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Not via this site, but I've been scammed buying a MTB via PinkBike. Long and short of it is my own fault for being too trusting... and not doing the checks before sending money... and bank transferring the cash! £900 so not a massive amount but enough to piss me off.
The advert - http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2124377/
Friday 10th Feb - After a few msgs and then emails I sent the money and he promptly fell off the face of the earth.
He gave his full name and address, but these are prob not real.
Joseph / Joe Mitchinson - joemitchinson2011@outlook.com
293 ormskirk road
Wn59dn
Greater Manchester
His bank account details
Barclays Bank
Account number 90639389
Sort code 20 25 95
I also have some headers from email but nothing pointing to aliases.
Can anyone help trace this clown? I'm going to speak to the bank to try and retract the payment but not holding out much hope of that. Can anyone trace the account holders name/details from the acc/sort code?
Involving the police - I guess i'll need to really, but any advice on who/where? I'm out in NZ just now so cant nip in past the local station LOL
pic of the add in case it disapears.
The advert - http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2124377/
Friday 10th Feb - After a few msgs and then emails I sent the money and he promptly fell off the face of the earth.
He gave his full name and address, but these are prob not real.
Joseph / Joe Mitchinson - joemitchinson2011@outlook.com
293 ormskirk road
Wn59dn
Greater Manchester
His bank account details
Barclays Bank
Account number 90639389
Sort code 20 25 95
I also have some headers from email but nothing pointing to aliases.
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Can anyone help trace this clown? I'm going to speak to the bank to try and retract the payment but not holding out much hope of that. Can anyone trace the account holders name/details from the acc/sort code?
Involving the police - I guess i'll need to really, but any advice on who/where? I'm out in NZ just now so cant nip in past the local station LOL
pic of the add in case it disapears.
I'm working out in NZ just now so viewing wasnt practical. I wanted a bike for when i arrived... my last one was stolen!
Cant make this st up LOL
I buy plenty unseen. Dont always have the time to look at everything. Ad seemed legit, and price not far off what i;d have considered ok.
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From: joe mitchinson <joemitchinson2011@outlook.com>
To: "ak@trackscotland.co.uk" <ak@trackscotland.co.uk>
Cant make this st up LOL
I buy plenty unseen. Dont always have the time to look at everything. Ad seemed legit, and price not far off what i;d have considered ok.
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From: joe mitchinson <joemitchinson2011@outlook.com>
To: "ak@trackscotland.co.uk" <ak@trackscotland.co.uk>
sadly, no.
He replied with his contact details name/address and I missed the glaring omission of a phone number before asking the wife to make the payment.
He's actually just been back in touch on pinkbike to say that the bike will be with me today. I'm calling BS after speaking with the orig builder of bike and previous owner.
I've asked again for a number.. and for tracking details for the 5th time.
He replied with his contact details name/address and I missed the glaring omission of a phone number before asking the wife to make the payment.
He's actually just been back in touch on pinkbike to say that the bike will be with me today. I'm calling BS after speaking with the orig builder of bike and previous owner.
I've asked again for a number.. and for tracking details for the 5th time.
essIII said:
Except if this is a scam, the fella who has the bike will have no idea that all this is going on. He'll have bought the bike from a genuine advert some time ago (that eBay auction that adam shared?), and now someone else is reusing that advert.
I have the new owners name (Alex ..... )... according the the orig owner/seller. I'm still waiting to hear back if that EBAY ad that I posted was the orig seller or another scam ad. If a scam it'll give a bit more info. Looking back on the EBAY user ID for the seller though it looks to be the orig sellers add.some info from admin on pinkbike
I had no choice but to ban his account as he is still scamming others. I've also banned various other accounts under his IP. As you can see he's login in from various IPs. Here is the info:
Offline
Username: joemitch2011 UserId: 1274406
Email: joemitchinson2011@outlook.com
Last: 2017-02-15 05:56:02
Join: 2017-02-04 09:55:40
Login Count: 66
ip: 2.222.252.181
1 people from this ip
(joemitch2011,10 183421 )
Preston, H2, GB
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92.40.249.156 GB 1 2017-02-04 09:55:40 signup Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/51.0.2704.79 Safari/537.36 Edge/14.14393
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2.222.252.181 GB 6 2017-02-14 12:55:23 remember Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; CPU OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3
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92.40.249.104 GB 1 2017-02-08 13:53:24 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-T580 Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Safari/537.36
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185.89.248.35 GB 1 2017-02-08 11:12:08 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/56.0.2924.87 Safari/537.36
82.9.173.128 GB 4 2017-02-08 07:28:52 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-G935F Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Mobile Safari/537.36
82.132.245.20 GB 1 2017-02-08 06:35:40 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-G935F Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Mobile Safari/537.36
2.218.122.82 GB 8 2017-02-07 12:20:20 vialong Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-T580 Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Safari/537.36
90.212.193.133 GB 25 2017-02-04 16:03:48 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-T580 Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Safari/537.36
92.40.249.156 GB 2 2017-02-04 09:55:40 signup Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/51.0.2704.79 Safari/537.36 Edge/14.14393
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I had no choice but to ban his account as he is still scamming others. I've also banned various other accounts under his IP. As you can see he's login in from various IPs. Here is the info:
Offline
Username: joemitch2011 UserId: 1274406
Email: joemitchinson2011@outlook.com
Last: 2017-02-15 05:56:02
Join: 2017-02-04 09:55:40
Login Count: 66
ip: 2.222.252.181
1 people from this ip
(joemitch2011,10 183421 )
Preston, H2, GB
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92.40.249.156 GB 1 2017-02-04 09:55:40 signup Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/51.0.2704.79 Safari/537.36 Edge/14.14393
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139.59.225.82 AU 1 2017-02-15 03:51:06 vialong Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/56.0.2924.87 Safari/537.36
2.222.252.181 GB 6 2017-02-14 12:55:23 remember Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; CPU OS 5_1_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B206 Safari/7534.48.3
85.255.233.217 GB 1 2017-02-14 05:22:34 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-G900F Build/MMB29M) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Mobile Safari/537.36
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92.40.249.104 GB 1 2017-02-08 13:53:24 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 6.0.1; SM-T580 Build/MMB29K) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.91 Safari/537.36
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185.89.248.35 GB 1 2017-02-08 11:12:08 remember Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/56.0.2924.87 Safari/537.36
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Chebble said:
There is a real Joe Mitchinson in Wigan - I know of him anyway. That said, he doesn't live in that area of Wigan. There's every chance that the scammer has picked someone real on the offchance that you'll search on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram.
Yeah, i've found him but dont want to potentially blindly blame someone who could be innocent. I called him the other day and asked a few questions - seemed oblivious enough so let it go.Fastpedeller said:
The Spruce goose said:
In truth the only action is the police.
Maybe...... there's another way! What you need to do is pull a scam on him - There must be some way to pull it off, and what poetic justice it would be.anyone got access to electrol register info?
I've done some basic google searching to see why lives at the address, but cant find anything unless I go through a pay site. Its an option, but seeing if the info is freely available makes more sense.
293 ormskirk road
Wn59dn
Greater Manchester
Its a real address...
I've done some basic google searching to see why lives at the address, but cant find anything unless I go through a pay site. Its an option, but seeing if the info is freely available makes more sense.
293 ormskirk road
Wn59dn
Greater Manchester
Its a real address...
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