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vx220
Original Poster
61 posts
61 months
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m30dus
95 posts
12 months
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SimonV8ster
4,489 posts
55 months
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JonyPI
307 posts
16 months
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i think id rather spend that kind of money on a better car imo, would have to be RWD aswell! to me thats essential for a track toy. im sure these are great fun but for the money.........
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GTMSpyder
71 posts
53 months
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Don't underestimate the Rover 100 as a stater track day car. OK if you're intending driving it straight into a wall then you might be better off buying something bigger (heavier), but I suspect a Saxo or 106 Rallye wouldn't fare much better if you want a small hatchback. I've done hundreds of trackdays and never seen anyone go head-on into the barriers anyway. And most Talon 100s have roll cages.
I know a few people with them and they are very quick with superb handling. Maybe not as pure as a 7 but as quick as most saloon based trackday cars with less than 250bhp.
Talon are a knowledgeable bunch and have done lots of these conversions, so the mods are well sorted and engineered.
Reyland also did a VVC Rover 100 and I saw that monster an Evo VIII at Bedford - and the Evo driver WAS trying.
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Porkie
652 posts
68 months
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GTMSpyder said: Don't underestimate the Rover 100 as a stater track day car. OK if you're intending driving it straight into a wall then you might be better off buying something bigger (heavier), but I suspect a Saxo or 106 Rallye wouldn't fare much better if you want a small hatchback. I've done hundreds of trackdays and never seen anyone go head-on into the barriers anyway. And most Talon 100s have roll cages.
I know a few people with them and they are very quick with superb handling. Maybe not as pure as a 7 but as quick as most saloon based trackday cars with less than 250bhp.
Talon are a knowledgeable bunch and have done lots of these conversions, so the mods are well sorted and engineered.
Reyland also did a VVC Rover 100 and I saw that monster an Evo VIII at Bedford - and the Evo driver WAS trying. I agree. great fun little cars. Its great fun being the 'underdog' as well if that makes sense. I used to love driving the Reyland one at Trackdays. A Little hooligan mobile... Was better when it looked like this.  didnt like it when it was orange though! Believe it or not. That little Metro could and did push a standard R33 GTR Vspec around Castle Combe as well! and the R33 driver WAS trying... because it was me! and I know Combe VERY well! Skyline on road rubber and the Metro always ran full slicks though to be fair.... so huge advantage there.
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Chris71
12,098 posts
69 months
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vx220 said: Great cars. A bit leftfield. I'm not sure how much I'd want to spend on a Metro though! Also have to say I found the company a bit odd to deal with when I approached them looking to buy a GTM a few years ago.
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FNG
2,462 posts
51 months
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I'd have to start with a different base car - a 205 GTi or Phase 1 Clio 16v for starters. Both have better balance and power as standard before you then chuck £3k+ at them.
As an aside, I can never take anyone, either company or individual, seriously if they utter the immortal phrase "handles as if on rails". No it doesn't, not at all.
Do you really want a car that's been modified by someone with so little technical knowledge that that's the best they can come up with to describe desireable handling characteristics?
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rdodger
332 posts
30 months
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I have had nothing but great service from Talon.
They originally built my Libra.
The 100r is pretty awesome. Now if you did an L in poo brown that would be the perfect sleeper.
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vx220
Original Poster
61 posts
61 months
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T89 Track & Race
6,211 posts
20 months
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£4,400 and Cage, LSD, Interior Strip and Big Brakes are extra cost options so closer to £7000.
For £7000 I'll build you a monster of a track car.... For £5k I'll build you a monster track car.
Seriously, I will build you one
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mrpink
89 posts
15 months
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300bhp/ton
5,950 posts
17 months
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m30dus said: Sorry old thread. But seriously what does this vid really help to achieve in the context of this topic? Any, yes any 80's hatch would fair about the same.
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JonyPI
307 posts
16 months
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plus according to the des. its a vtec engined one aswell which is a world apart from the k-series.
i really really cannot see the appeal of these for that kinda money!
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300bhp/ton
5,950 posts
17 months
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JonyPI said: plus according to the des. its a vtec engined one aswell which is a world apart from the k-series.
i really really cannot see the appeal of these for that kinda money! I can see the appeal. Although I suspect they made more financial sense a few years back when other cars cost more such as a DC2 ITR. I mean what do they weigh?? 700-800kg tops? The VVC motor is still a good engine. And such a car as this does offer every day usability, 4 seats and a roof. So good handling, breaking and a superb power to weight ratio. On a purley a like for like basis what else in the same performance league could you buy for your money? I know if you can mod a car yourself you could build something more. But if that's the case you wouldn't be looking at an off the shelf solutions.
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mrpink
89 posts
15 months
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JonyPI said: plus according to the des. its a vtec engined one aswell which is a world apart from the k-series.
i really really cannot see the appeal of these for that kinda money! it is a B16a vtec and cost about £2k to build, not by Talon tho, and is still putting a big grin on the face of the current owner on many a trackday as it did mine :-)
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300bhp/ton
5,950 posts
17 months
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mrpink said: JonyPI said: plus according to the des. its a vtec engined one aswell which is a world apart from the k-series.
i really really cannot see the appeal of these for that kinda money! it is a B16a vtec and cost about £2k to build, not by Talon tho, and is still putting a big grin on the face of the current owner on many a trackday as it did mine :-) is there a company that does such swaps? I quite like the idea of it but frankly have no where to do it.
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mrpink
89 posts
15 months
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sorry but mine was privately built by a very knowledgable guy that builds as a hobby. He also built a B18/golf, B18/mini and a S2000/ BMW - there are lots of vtec mini builders around. You might find their forum by using vtec mini in a google search.
I now have a DC2 but can honestly say the metro was brilliant fun especially if you fancy being a bit different :-)
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fast eddys
62 posts
28 months
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I know Talon very well as a supplier and customer. I drove their demonstator around Brunters and was well impressed. It got loads of attention due to its surprising speed and handling.
I run a stripped out non VVC 1.8 Metro Gti as my run around/van/track car and it is great. 135bhp and 770kg. Elise performance for £2K.
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300bhp/ton
5,950 posts
17 months
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fast eddys said: I know Talon very well as a supplier and customer. I drove their demonstator around Brunters and was well impressed. It got loads of attention due to its surprising speed and handling.
I run a stripped out non VVC 1.8 Metro Gti as my run around/van/track car and it is great. 135bhp and 770kg. Elise performance for £2K. If only. I contacted Talon recently, albeit by email. Maybe it was an off day but they didn't seem all that welcoming in email at least. They also said that it'd cost £6500 for a Talon 100 VVC with LSD and big brake kit. Which I think is quite a lot. £4k or under and I'd have been very interested.
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