Why we hate Recruitment Agencies

[bad company]

Efbe said:

same qualifications as working at mcdonalds.

http://www.rec.uk.com/recruitmentbusinessacademy/Qualifications

[Efbe]

bad company said:

Efbe said:

same qualifications as working at mcdonalds.

http://www.rec.uk.com/recruitmentbusinessacademy/Qualifications

as I said: the same.

You can have any qualification you want, you just don't need them.

[bad company]

Efbe said:

as I said: the same.

You can have any qualification you want, you just don't need them.

True but you can say the same of bankers, estate agents, garage mechanics, motor electricians ...,,,,

[sunoco69]

I still think the correct answer is because they are on a par with estate agents and 's

[irocfan]

Efbe said:

same qualifications as working at mcdonalds.

only less integrity

[itsnotarace]

bad company said:

itsnotarace said:

I spent 9 years contracting in IT so have a reasonable amount of experience with recruitment agencies, nearly all of it bad

Once I was with a client for nearly 3 years. After the initial placement I never heard from the agency again, until I negotiated (by myself with the client) a £5 p/h pay rise. The recruitment agency phones up a few days later out of the blue and claims they have negotiated me a £2 per hour pay rise expecting me to be pleased about it. FLOL

Lying bds, the lot of them

But without the agent you wouldn't have got the contract in the first place.

True - they forwarded my CV by email. So what are their ongoing costs on my part? Feck all. They then had 3 years taking 25% cut of my pay for no additional work on their part. Fine, I have no problem with that.

So to then demand 60% of the additional rate that I had negotiated with the client is just greedy, no?

[Tonsko]

esvcg said:

perhaps you lot need to publicly post your opinions!

linky

Do you know Nicholas Rose?

[Tonsko]

They're not particularly favoured, but I wasn't trying to police you, honest! I was just taking a guess, as the site wasn't very full. It looked like you were seeding it, so I reckoned you either knew him, or was him.

Nicely designed by the way. Nice idea too, if it works.

Also, The Oatmeal is currently engaged in battles with people using his work on their sites. I'd check that out, too.

[spikeyhead]

I've just been sent a list of jobs that I may be interested in. One was for something that I can do, based in Leicester which is easily commutable from Derby.

So I click on the link and read the job spec. They are after a trainee, which wasn't clear in the list, and it was also based in Surrey.

Has someone moved Leicester?

[bad company]

What many of you are not taking into account is that 95% of the recruiters time is wasted on people who do not get or want the job. That is why recruitment is expensive.

I started my specialist legal agency in 1989 & sold last year. Trust me it's bloody hard work & most who think the jobs easy simply can't do it.

[davepoth]

bad company said:

What many of you are not taking into account is that 95% of the recruiters time is wasted on people who do not get or want the job. That is why recruitment is expensive.

I started my specialist legal agency in 1989 & sold last year. Trust me it's bloody hard work & most who think the jobs easy simply can't do it.

So what you're saying is that your agency has a 5% success rate?

[bad company]

davepoth said:

So what you're saying is that your agency has a 5% success rate?

That would depend on you definition of success. A lot of time is spent speaking with clients who fill their job elsewhere or candidates who decide to stay put or accept a job we did not put them in for. That is the nature of the industry.

Mine was/is highly successful.

[Mojooo]

RA are wkers until proven otherwise - its a given. Shame OP has given up the fight.

What about people who work for the companies that use RA - presumably you don't care about their methods as long as you get the staff you need.

[bad company]

Mojooo said:

RA are wkers until proven otherwise - its a given. Shame OP has given up the fight.

What about people who work for the companies that use RA - presumably you don't care about their methods as long as you get the staff you need.

Interesting theory. Were you born stupid or did you have to work at it?

[sunoco69]

bad company said:

I started my specialist legal agency in 1989 & sold last year. Trust me it's bloody hard work & most who think the jobs easy simply can't do it.

And were you born terminally arrogant or did you study to be this good at it?

[Gargamel]

sunoco69 said:

And were you born terminally arrogant or did you study to be this good at it?

I worked in Agencies for a long time, I think the point that was being made was that many people join agencies, feeling the work will be unskilled and relatively easy to make happen. But find it very difficult to really influence or partner well with customers.

Very few sales processes have two PEOPLE making decisions, often on quite subjective criteria.

Hence there is actually a very high staff turnover. hence, many try this line of work, not many (any!) find it easy.

[bad company]

sunoco69 said:

And were you born terminally arrogant or did you study to be this good at it?

If you don't like recruiters the answer is simple. Find your own bloody jobs.

Arrogant if you like but I am the one who having worked at recruitment for 23 years is now enjoying the sun in California .

Arrogant? Been called worse.

[sunoco69]

bad company said:

If you don't like recruiters the answer is simple. Find your own bloody jobs.

Arrogant if you like but I am the one who having worked at recruitment for 23 years is now enjoying the sun in California .

Arrogant? Been called worse.

And like all recruiters you seem to miss or ignore the detail!!!

I think you will find I called you terminally arrogant. Please keep up.

[bad company]

sunoco69 said:

And like all recruiters you seem to miss or ignore the detail!!!

I think you will find I called you terminally arrogant. Please keep up.

The detail you miss is that I really don't care what you think.

My time in recruitment was tough but very rewarding. Our clients were happy to pay our fees to source quality candidates and that's what we did.

Over the years I came across and occasionally employed a trainee recruiter who thought it would be easy. They never lasted long.

[sunoco69]

bad company said:

The detail you miss is that I really don't care what you think.

My time in recruitment was tough but very rewarding. Our clients were happy to pay our fees to source quality candidates and that's what we did.

Over the years I came across and occasionally employed a trainee recruiter who thought it would be easy. They never lasted long.

Well good for you. I am happy that your happy but the clue is in the title.

I wasn't asking if you cared about my views nor was I assuming that there isn't money to be made in recruitment. Of course there is as there are as many incompetent, useless and lazy HR people as there are recruiting agents. One feeds off the other and nor do I sympathize with the recruited as they should go out and find their own work.

What I was answering was the original question that this thread asked i.e. "Why we hate Recruitment Agencies"

Hope California is fun and you are having a great time. Maybe they can recruit you to find someone who can solve the energy problems there.