Leaving a new job 6 weeks in

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itsnotarace

4,685 posts

211 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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I left a job after 3 days once. The interview was all fine, had high hopes that I would do well there but on my first day I noticed that everyone in the office spent the entire day sitting in complete silence and did not converse with each other at all apart from via emails. By the second day I was climbing the walls and on the 3rd I handed in notice with immediate effect.

smashing

1,613 posts

163 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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itsnotarace said:
I left a job after 3 days once. The interview was all fine, had high hopes that I would do well there but on my first day I noticed that everyone in the office spent the entire day sitting in complete silence and did not converse with each other at all apart from via emails. By the second day I was climbing the walls and on the 3rd I handed in notice with immediate effect.
That would have driven me mad!

Soovy

35,829 posts

273 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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matt173407 said:
Hi , same sort of situation , it isnt a problem , just tell them it was a shrot term contract , you have geniune reasons why you left so no probs smile
What, lie then?

Great advice, you'll get caught.


Sorry but this is 20/20 hindisght here. Did you not add up the costs of commuting in terms of money and time.

Stick with it while you look for something else. Tell the TRUTH when you do.

Andy OH

1,912 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Soovy said:
What, lie then?

Great advice, you'll get caught.


Sorry but this is 20/20 hindisght here. Did you not add up the costs of commuting in terms of money and time.

Stick with it while you look for something else. Tell the TRUTH when you do.
Soovy, he's already been offered his previous job back.

Looks like you may well have made a mistake taking the new job. We all make mistakes but do not put a car, and as you say an old one, in front of your career.

About fifteen years ago I took redundancy and thought a change of sector would be good. I managed to find something very quickly and started two weeks after taking redundacy I knew after two months I wanted to get back to the financial services sector; it took me a further three months to find a suitable job and in total I lasted six months in the role including the one month notice they held me to.

Just make sure you are doing the right thing if you go back to your previous job.

Edited by Andy OH on Tuesday 28th June 13:31

GeraldSmith

6,887 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Never go back, that's just sad. You've got to another level of salary, look for something else and if it takes a while then put up with where you are. Going back is just depressing.

okgo

38,430 posts

200 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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GeraldSmith said:
Never go back, that's just sad. You've got to another level of salary, look for something else and if it takes a while then put up with where you are. Going back is just depressing.
Agree with that, you've been taken on at a higher level, go up not down!

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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anonymous said:
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Also, OP, if you go back, just bear in mind your loyalty is now forever in doubt.

It's quite likely, although not certain, that going back will hamstring any chances of progress you may have had at that company.

In your position, I would wave a fond farewell to the six-pot, get a tedious ecobox for commuting, and spend some of that 40% uplift on something more entertaining for the weekend.

defblade

7,468 posts

215 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Use a motorbike to commute. With the correct gear on for the weather (ie Goretex) it's fun and saves money! If it's snowing, drive instead.

(In fact, my bike is free - running it (petrol/servicing/tax/insurance) costs about the same as paying for just the petrol to run the car those miles)

Rich1973

1,202 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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If the job is of big benefit to your CV surely it has got to be worth carrying on with for a while? I can only presume you must have had an idea that the journey tme etc was going to be how it is before you started the job?
An alternative I have thought of is to hire a room for 5 days a week so that you can stop nearer work in the week and go home at weekends. Might work out cost effective against time / fuel?

Richard

Ollie123

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121 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Thanks for the replies, really appreciated. How does going back to my old job, with a 10% salary increase on what I'm currently earning, and less hours, sound? wink

As I'm on 6 months probation, can I literally leave tomorrow if I wanted to? I know the probation period is a two way thing, so could I slump my notice on my superiors desk at 5:30 and ask them to send the P45 in the post? Whats the best way to do it? (going through my current contact it says "1 months written notice (not including trial period)).

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Ollie123 said:
Thanks for the replies, really appreciated. How does going back to my old job, with a 10% salary increase on what I'm currently earning, and less hours, sound? wink
Compared to a 40% payrise, and going back with the knowledge that it's likely you'll never really be trusted again?

st, that's how it sounds.

Ollie123 said:
As I'm on 6 months probation, can I literally leave tomorrow if I wanted to? I know the probation period is a two way thing, so could I slump my notice on my superiors desk at 5:30 and ask them to send the P45 in the post? Whats the best way to do it? (going through my current contact it says "1 months written notice (not including trial period)).
Yes, you can. Although you might want to be considerate about it; burning bridges is never a good idea.

Soir

2,270 posts

241 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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CommanderJameson said:
Ollie123 said:
Thanks for the replies, really appreciated. How does going back to my old job, with a 10% salary increase on what I'm currently earning, and less hours, sound? wink
Compared to a 40% payrise, and going back with the knowledge that it's likely you'll never really be trusted again?

st, that's how it sounds.

Ollie123 said:
As I'm on 6 months probation, can I literally leave tomorrow if I wanted to? I know the probation period is a two way thing, so could I slump my notice on my superiors desk at 5:30 and ask them to send the P45 in the post? Whats the best way to do it? (going through my current contact it says "1 months written notice (not including trial period)).
Yes, you can. Although you might want to be considerate about it; burning bridges is never a good idea.
I took that to read his old company have offered him 10/ rise on his CURRENT salary (which is 40/ more than they were paying him) so in effect it's more like a 50/ payrise..is that correct?

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Soir said:
I took that to read his old company have offered him 10/ rise on his CURRENT salary (which is 40/ more than they were paying him) so in effect it's more like a 50/ payrise..is that correct?
Ah, that'd be alright, but I read it as 10% on what he's currently earning at his old company, rather than 10% on the salary at the new company.


Ollie123

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121 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Soir said:
I took that to read his old company have offered him 10/ rise on his CURRENT salary (which is 40/ more than they were paying him) so in effect it's more like a 50/ payrise..is that correct?
Yep thats right, so I'm very happy smile

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Ollie123 said:
Yep thats right, so I'm very happy smile
Best of luck with it.

Avoid the temptation to ask why they haven't bothered giving you this pay rise before...

okgo

38,430 posts

200 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Yeh, I am a bit of a pessimist and tend to think that way. If they can afford it now why the feck didnt they offer it before.

One reason to never stay in the same place too long, you end up cheap labour.

Ollie123

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121 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Cheers guys.

So how much notice should I give my current employer, and how can I approach it most senstively? I dont want to upset anyone, but my reasons for leaving are both internal and external. For example a few people were having a heated arguement today and it sealed the deal about my decision, I dont want to work in this enviroment even if I am not directly involved.

TurricanII

1,516 posts

200 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Before going back - think WHY you left.. If it was just money, and they are going to give you more, then cool. If the boss is an ass then you might be wasting your time going back.

If the boss is an ass at the old place, could he invite you back only to fire you within 12 months? You would be a new hire which I expect means you are easy to dispatch within 12 months. It could happen if the old boss felt let down/humiliated when you quit the first time.

Let the new company know ASAP. Recruitment agencies often have refund policies - e.g. if you leave within four weeks they get back 70% of the fee, 8 weeks 50% 12 weeks 25% etc. You could be doing them a favour by letting them know ASAP.

If you want to stay at the new place, can you work from home some of the time with an IP phone or mobile phone, and remote control of your work PC from home? That could give you a good work/life balance.

As a small employer I have dealt with a few staff moving on who were always sorry to quit - I always tell them not to worry about it as they only live once.

ETA - re. the CV looking bad, you could cover it as being a long holiday or taking a break - no reference required. You are not obliged to go into every job you ever had. I am not an accountant but you might be able to not give the P45 to the next employer, and just pay emergency tax for a year.. In any event, it looks good on CV that the original employer took you back - you must be reasonably good at something if they wanted you back!! I would be wary of a CV that showed the 6 week job - only if you applied to me through an agency. I hate paying agency fees of 15% of annual salary as it is. If there is any indication that you might flit then I would probably not consider you. If you applied direct to my company however, then you could be saving me thousands in agency fees and so I am much more likely to give you a couple of months of a trial.

Edited by TurricanII on Tuesday 28th June 21:11

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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TurricanII said:
Let the new company know ASAP. Recruitment agencies often have refund policies - e.g. if you leave within four weeks they get back 70% of the fee, 8 weeks 50% 12 weeks 25% etc. You could be doing them a favour by letting them know ASAP.
That's a good point. OP, you mentioned a couple of training courses; were they expensive ones? If so, make sure, before you leave, that either the company won't claw back the cost of these, or that you can afford it if they will.

Ollie123

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121 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Is it worth keeping secret that I'm returning to my old employeer? They were used a reference so my boss has their contact details, I'm not keen on them calling them up for a nosy chat?