How does this scam work?

[DavesFlaps]

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Edited by DavesFlaps on Friday 6th September 12:56

[DavesFlaps]

I'm bored now.

Also, I'm away to scan this PC with a few AV progs.

[omgus]

DavesFlaps said:

skipped this one

That is quality fishing.

Edited by omgus on Friday 6th September 15:24

[CAPP0]

Well done D's Fs!

Pretty blatant - do people really fall for this?

[Haggleburyfinius]

Drove past as promised. I can only assume the "offices" are in the seemingly abandoned parts of a building above a shop.

Horrid part of Brum.

[marshalla]

Haggleburyfinius said:

Drove past as promised. I can only assume the "offices" are in the seemingly abandoned parts of a building above a shop.

Horrid part of Brum.

Those offices have nothing to do with the scam - apart from the being address of a company whose ID is being used to make it look more legit.

The domain being used is registered to

Registrant:
Daniela Baer
Daniela Baer [e-mail]
Muhlenstrasse 19
Hettstadt, BY 97265
DE
49.09312783 Fax: [phone]

and was first registered on 27th August 2013.

[parabolica]

CAPP0 said:

Well done D's Fs!

Pretty blatant - do people really fall for this?

Afraid so, tend to be people in the more developing countries that fall for it (former eastern block, middle east etc). The fraudsters string people along, convince them to "accept" then the next thing is they'll ask for money to pay for a visa application and copies of their passports - and people hand this over without thinking!

I work for a large multinational and there are hundreds of fake offers out there at the moment that look like they've come from our company (logo etc all lifted from the company website) and unfortunately they have my name on them. Anyone smart enough to google my name would find my linkedin profile which shows where I work and my title matches what is stated on the fake offers, so they thinks its legit. But it's not; those smart enough to get in touch with me directly are informed about what's happened and most are smart enough to see something is dodgy (even my Linkedin profile says, in big capital letter, beware of fake offers containing my name) but still I get dozens of messages each week.

Our Corporate Security can't do anything about it; it's most likely an automated scam and if they did find out where it originated from and got it shut down, another would just pop up. Every large company has this issue.

[Haggleburyfinius]

Ah, understood.

Didn't read the thread properly before posting

[blindswelledrat]

What I don't understand is how a bank has the right to take the money back from you. Cleared funds are cleared funds, I thought. It isn't your fault if the source of money you receive is questionable if you've earned it in good faith.
For example- if I sell a car and the purchaser bacses money to me: surely I am not in danger of those funds being taken back at a later date if the buyer is a crook?

[marshalla]

blindswelledrat said:

What I don't understand is how a bank has the right to take the money back from you. Cleared funds are cleared funds, I thought. It isn't your fault if the source of money you receive is questionable if you've earned it in good faith.
For example- if I sell a car and the purchaser bacses money to me: surely I am not in danger of those funds being taken back at a later date if the buyer is a crook?

And yet there are numerous threads on PH advising people to do credit-card chargebacks on Paypal etc. when a transaction has gone bad.

BACS payments can be reversed, or can fail if they are definitely fraudulent. However, the receiving account may appear to be in credit before the reversal happens. At that point, the mark will transfer the "balance" out and then will find that the account goes overdrawn shortly afterwards.

However, in this particular scam, the mark is a middleman in a money laundering scheme and being used to process proceeds of other crimes. It's entirely possible that the funds will flow smoothly, until the authorities show an interest - and arrest the mark.

[Terminator X]

BACS payments are secure UK bank to UK bank aren't they? Foreign banks I could understand or WMU etc ...

TX.

[marshalla]

http://www.banksafeonline.org.uk/sites/default/fil...

As for BACS being one-way - there are reversal mechanisms in all the payment systems that I know of. They are rarely used, but they exist.

[mickrick]

I get similar things sent to me regularly. Apparently from the large cruise ship companies offering jobs with incredible salaries.
They started after I registered with some crew agencies for the private yachting industry, which I work in.
I contacted the agencies, but they say there´s no way anyone can access my details from their database. Obviously not true!

I contacted one of the cruise ship companies direct, in the first instance as I thought there was something fishy about it, and was told they are aware of it but they keep popping up.

I thought it was to get details for identity fraud. Coincidently the contact person in the e-mails is a Captain Scott something or other....

[DavesFlaps]

My efforts on this thread are pretty meaningless for any new readers now I've removed the screenshots, however it seems I didn't make the grade:

> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:52:13 +0100
> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Task Manager Account activation
>
> Hello Herbert Gaycock,
>
> You registration is not expectable and it will be deleted.
>
> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at [e-mail].
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Scott Pierce
> HR Coordinator
> ARTALPINE LIMITED
> Phone: [phone]
> Fax: [phone]
> e-mail: [e-mail]





"expectable"

Edited by DavesFlaps on Monday 9th September 12:44