PARETO LAW

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pt06j3b

Original Poster:

41 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Hi guys,

Basically I m wondering if anyone knows about Pareto Law the graduate recruitment firm and importantly if there are any good?

If you could enlighten me it would be much appreciated!!

Cheers

ShadownINja

76,522 posts

283 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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I hear 80% of the jobs go to 20% of the candidates. Or something.













Sorry. Free bump. biggrin

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Yes, when I was a grad they found me a job. Are you looking at it from a grad point of view or using them to find you a grad?


pt06j3b

Original Poster:

41 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Yes mate im a graduate!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Did the full programme with them. Went to a couple of interviews, but as it turned out, I got a job through my own merits. (I was applying outside these guys too.)

They did a day with a couple of team building events, and a personal interview. From this they select the candidates they are most likely to be able to place.

They concentrate on sales roles.

(All this was about 3 years ago, but I'm happy to answer a few questions.)

GSP

1,965 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I went to one of their recruitment days just before Christmas.

There was 40 people there and only 8 of us got selected at the end of it.

You will hear alot of people slagging them off, but more than likely because they got rejected. A lot more get rejected than get accepted.

To be fair, they still have not found me a job, however, I am only looking for jobs in Nottinghamshire/Leicestershire/Derbyshire which makes things a little harder for them. I have also not been very pro-active in chasing them either as I am holding out for something else I have applied for.

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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GSP said:
There was 40 people there and only 8 of us got selected at the end of it.
rofl

Is that a joke?


GSP

1,965 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Nope, but I've just realised why it could have been perceived as such lol.

One thing they do say is that if everyone at the assessment centre meets the grade they will take everyone onto their books, if no onw meets the grade, then they will take no one.

the 40 and 8 was just pure coincidence.

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I did the assessment at their Wilmslow branch, got through, they found me a job. I hated it, mind numbing rubbish sales.

I left said job and company were really annoyed that it had cost them over £10k to recruit me and I left within months.

They will get you a job but some of the places I interviewed at were hopeless.

Another such recruitment company is MetaMorphose - friend of mine got an excellent medical sales job and believe it or not DID make the £50k in his first year.

Good luck.

pt06j3b

Original Poster:

41 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Yeah sorry I should have made it clearer,

I went on Monday to the assessment centre and olny 5 out of 37 got in!

So thought i did ok to be honest!

I have an interview on Friday, see how it goes...

Just wondering if any one knows which area of sales I should be possibly going for??

Cheers, Jamie

pt06j3b

Original Poster:

41 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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If you don't mind me asking AB, do you work in sales now?

Could you possibly give me any guidance?

Cheers, Jamie

maix27

1,070 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I also went through Pareto... was one of 4 on my course of about 30 people to get through. As long as you're confident you should be able to get through. Make sure you are very forward, open and confident in the group exercises, i think this is where i did well.

We did a 1 week residential training course which was pretty rubbish IMHO as I’d been working for about 3 months by the time we went. They got me a decent job, had 3 interviews and got two offers (both were recruitment companies) and have stayed in the same industry since, although have improved my position since.

If you want any more advice I’m happy to help, PM me if you want.

AyBee

10,555 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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My best friend works for Pareto, she went through them and was so good they selected her to work for themselves hehe If you need any info or want her to phone you then send me a PM and I'd be happy to oblige biggrin

v15ben

15,814 posts

242 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I got through one of their recruitment days at Wilmslow which was good, but everything went downhill from there. I was placed in a 100% cold calling sales job on a shocking (even by sales standards) basic wage with no support/training at all, just an old phone book and a pen!

I continually tried to contact 'my' Pareto rep to get advice about the situation and what they could do, but in the end got no response! Not proud of it, but in the end I left him a very unpleasant voicemail and told the manager of the sales company where to stick his job!

My cousin also worked for Pareto in their Wilmslow office and got treated like crap.

However saying all that this is only one person's experience and they do seem to be very successful at what they do so maybe it's not all bad.

GSP

1,965 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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AyBee said:
My best friend works for Pareto, she went through them and was so good they selected her to work for themselves hehe If you need any info or want her to phone you then send me a PM and I'd be happy to oblige biggrin
I imagine she probably got selected for her looks rather than her brains.

When I went most were fairly hot but not the sharpest tools in the box. Two from the group I got selected with were asked to stay behind and were offered jobs with Pareto.

AyBee

10,555 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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GSP said:
AyBee said:
My best friend works for Pareto, she went through them and was so good they selected her to work for themselves hehe If you need any info or want her to phone you then send me a PM and I'd be happy to oblige biggrin
I imagine she probably got selected for her looks rather than her brains.

When I went most were fairly hot but not the sharpest tools in the box. Two from the group I got selected with were asked to stay behind and were offered jobs with Pareto.
She is a good looking girl (an ex-gf hehe), but also has a 2:1 degree from Bath so also has brains and confidence too and seems to love her job so all's good smile

BMcC

1 posts

167 months

Wednesday 9th June 2010
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I attended an assessment day the Wilmslow office, it was the worst experience Ive ever had in terms of an assessment day.

The day was extremely long and boring, they did not let us have lunch and frowned at us when we asked to use the toilet, I would strongly advise anyone to stay away from this company. The Pareto workers were very rude and arrogrant, but as far as i could see this was part of the criteria that you needed to have to get selected.

I should have done a lot more research before attending the assessment day, as I later found out many other people have had a similar experience to me.

I found a lot of discrimination going on, lets just say if you are Scottish, Asian, or Irish dont waste your time energy or money as this company only want certain people.

I also found that you had to be stupid, ignorant, be exteremly cocky and speek over people and have no people skills or manners to be consider for a role with pareto, you may think I sound bitter but infact I am very happy not to have any thing to so with Pareto as after coming home from the assesment day and feeling like I had been taking for a fool and had a very dodgy feeling about the people who worked there and the crap they told us, I went about dong some research (yes I know I should have done it before hand)I found a lot of people where very unhappy, if you are thinking of going to an assentment day I strongly advise you to search through different chatrooms and fourms before attending.

So I am putting this notice up just to warn you intellegent, decent and nice people out there stay away form this company, they have no interest in your academic ability or skills they just want stupid people that they can brain-wash.

ALittleEXcited

17,012 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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BMcC said:
Some bulls**t
Rubbish.

My assessment day and subsequent training days were attended by Scottish, Asian, English and everything in between. 4 of the 8 on the traning day were not white British.

At the assessment I had lunch, was allowed to go to the toilet without funny looks, I didn't speak over anyone, wasn't rude. I did what I had to do and made sure I got my points across.

I did pursuade a whole room of people to do something wrong though, they quite liked that for some reason.

You sound to me like you got on the assessment day and failed.

Answering another question from above, I am not in sales any longer, I did it for a short while and to be quite honest I really did find it mind numbing. I got one of the better roles which involved the whole sales process from prospecting to account management, I still couldn't stick it and I hated how people perceived me - just another salesman.

A lot of the roles Pareto offer are incoming sales which is basically sitting in a call centre trying to retain customers who are leaving.

Choose carefully, don't jump at the first job.

Sorry for the rushed reply.

Edit: Feel free to PM me if anyone has any questions on assessment or training etc. I also have a few contacts there should you need them.

Edited by ALittleEXcited on Thursday 10th June 09:42

GSP

1,965 posts

205 months

Thursday 10th June 2010
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BMcC said:
I attended an assessment day the Wilmslow office, it was the worst experience Ive ever had in terms of an assessment day.

The day was extremely long and boring, they did not let us have lunch and frowned at us when we asked to use the toilet, I would strongly advise anyone to stay away from this company. The Pareto workers were very rude and arrogrant, but as far as i could see this was part of the criteria that you needed to have to get selected.

I should have done a lot more research before attending the assessment day, as I later found out many other people have had a similar experience to me.

I found a lot of discrimination going on, lets just say if you are Scottish, Asian, or Irish dont waste your time energy or money as this company only want certain people.

I also found that you had to be stupid, ignorant, be exteremly cocky and speek over people and have no people skills or manners to be consider for a role with pareto, you may think I sound bitter but infact I am very happy not to have any thing to so with Pareto as after coming home from the assesment day and feeling like I had been taking for a fool and had a very dodgy feeling about the people who worked there and the crap they told us, I went about dong some research (yes I know I should have done it before hand)I found a lot of people where very unhappy, if you are thinking of going to an assentment day I strongly advise you to search through different chatrooms and fourms before attending.

So I am putting this notice up just to warn you intellegent, decent and nice people out there stay away form this company, they have no interest in your academic ability or skills they just want stupid people that they can brain-wash.
Your one of the 80% that failed then rolleyes


ALittleEXcited said:
BMcC said:
Some bulls**t
Rubbish.

My assessment day and subsequent training days were attended by Scottish, Asian, English and everything in between. 4 of the 8 on the traning day were not white British.

At the assessment I had lunch, was allowed to go to the toilet without funny looks, I didn't speak over anyone, wasn't rude. I did what I had to do and made sure I got my points across.

I did pursuade a whole room of people to do something wrong though, they quite liked that for some reason.

You sound to me like you got on the assessment day and failed.

Answering another question from above, I am not in sales any longer, I did it for a short while and to be quite honest I really did find it mind numbing. I got one of the better roles which involved the whole sales process from prospecting to account management, I still couldn't stick it and I hated how people perceived me - just another salesman.

A lot of the roles Pareto offer are incoming sales which is basically sitting in a call centre trying to retain customers who are leaving.

Choose carefully, don't jump at the first job.

Sorry for the rushed reply.

Edit: Feel free to PM me if anyone has any questions on assessment or training etc. I also have a few contacts there should you need them.

Edited by ALittleEXcited on Thursday 10th June 09:42
Exactly... I went, and passed.

Never found a job though, mainly because I was not really interested or proactive.

They offered a few interviews but none of them was what I really wanted so turned them down.

karishma

1 posts

158 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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I'm confused. I went to an assessment day the other week and it was absolutely fine, albeit challenging. I don't understand what you guys are on about? The staff were friendly, explained everything clearly; it was alot less daunting than I had preconcieved. I didn't get through the day, but it was a certainly a learning curve. They suggested that I call back for feedback to work on for the future, which I did and was v insightful and useful for future interviews etc. smile Still in contact with a few peeps from the day too!