Possible redundancy - some advice
Discussion
ruggedscotty said:
Id give the 3 day thing a wide berth - that's a common ruse as you end up doing the same work load in shorter hours for less money and they are riding you. If the company doesn't appreciate in house or realise your worth then you need to realise your worth and get away from them. By all means stay there with money coming in but cover your back and ensure that they can not stick anything on you, H&S is a mine field and they may be trying to disassociate themselves and link it to a third party. best off out that and finding a job that treats you well with minimal fuss.
Aye, 3 days is not something i am entertaining, i have drafted a letter outlining my duties and what is covered as a competent role (i.e. qualifications) and would look at 4 days a week as a continuation of contract, etc. Its unlikely they will keep me on at that stage but its what i am laying out in my next consultation.CV's are going out to recruitment firms now and made contact with a few people in the industry that i know.
Just a bit of a waiting game now.
The other issue is, with the O&G downturn, HSE jobs are going to be scarce, and many fighting over 1 position, so even reduced hours for a while tides me over, while i look at other places to work.
Edited by Rick_1138 on Thursday 9th June 09:02
Bit of an update.
I have spoken with my friends fiancee who does HR for a living.
She has looked over my notes and the minutes i have received and has laughed at them, as they are awful, piss poor grammar, mashing 2 parts of a conversation together and it makes it read like i have agreed with stuff when in fact i wasnt talking about the first bit of the sentence etc.
They haven't given me a meeting time for my next meeting in writing, they said Tuesday A.M. (Today) but got a call at 12:30 saying my meeting will be tomorrow at 10am.
I have also spoken with another colleague in the same boat and he was informed by another colleague who has gone through recent redundacy at a rival employer who now works for us, basically our bonus scheme is contractual at 10% split between 2 payments a year (first one is this months coming pay) basically as there has no been no formal confirmation that no bonuses are being paid at this time, then it can be assumed that these should still be paid, even as part of redundancy.
When this was put to the guy doing the consultation with my colleague, he was told that no bonuses would be paid, he explained that its in the contract, and his person who came in with him explained to the management rep that as nothings in writing, they cant withold the bonus.
When they came back saying that, they wont pay bonuses, they were told that the previous employer fund that they actually had to pay a bonus even through redundancy,,there was some muttering and then told 'we'll have to check'.
Its showing that they dont know what they are doing, they just want folk out the door.
I have spoken with my friends fiancee who does HR for a living.
She has looked over my notes and the minutes i have received and has laughed at them, as they are awful, piss poor grammar, mashing 2 parts of a conversation together and it makes it read like i have agreed with stuff when in fact i wasnt talking about the first bit of the sentence etc.
They haven't given me a meeting time for my next meeting in writing, they said Tuesday A.M. (Today) but got a call at 12:30 saying my meeting will be tomorrow at 10am.
I have also spoken with another colleague in the same boat and he was informed by another colleague who has gone through recent redundacy at a rival employer who now works for us, basically our bonus scheme is contractual at 10% split between 2 payments a year (first one is this months coming pay) basically as there has no been no formal confirmation that no bonuses are being paid at this time, then it can be assumed that these should still be paid, even as part of redundancy.
When this was put to the guy doing the consultation with my colleague, he was told that no bonuses would be paid, he explained that its in the contract, and his person who came in with him explained to the management rep that as nothings in writing, they cant withold the bonus.
When they came back saying that, they wont pay bonuses, they were told that the previous employer fund that they actually had to pay a bonus even through redundancy,,there was some muttering and then told 'we'll have to check'.
Its showing that they dont know what they are doing, they just want folk out the door.
Yeah, i am actually kind of done with it, but you never know, they could accept the 4 day a week proposal, with stipulation that fridays i am not working, if i need to come in, its at hourly cost etc, as they will try that one on.
TBH once i am told (if) i am away, its a case of seeing what they expect in terms of notice as TBH it will be excruciating having to sit here for x weeks, showing people how to do my job, that is apparently now redundant.
I am all for Pay in Lieu of notice, and wave tata.
TBH once i am told (if) i am away, its a case of seeing what they expect in terms of notice as TBH it will be excruciating having to sit here for x weeks, showing people how to do my job, that is apparently now redundant.
I am all for Pay in Lieu of notice, and wave tata.
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