Regional IT Manager... oh my..

Regional IT Manager... oh my..

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98elise

26,753 posts

162 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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dave_s13 said:
I've a family member that is an "IT Project Manager" or something, for a large very well known northern supermarket.

I assumed he would know something about computers. He doesn't.

He doesn't even own a smart phone, uses an old nokia. He has no idea about how to set up a simple network at home or how to set up spotify or netflix. He knows literally fk all about the workings of a computer. I'm a podiatrist and know a million times more about IT technical stuff than he does.

On the other hand my bro is an IT Security manager for a bank, he does know lots of st about some very technical stuff.

To summarise. Having the abbreviation "IT" in your job title doesn't mean you know how to use a computer.
A project manager does not need to know the technical aspects of their project, anymore than a construction project manager needs to know how to lay bricks.

There is just too much to know, and that is best left to the technical experts in their field.

Also IT is a broad term, its like saying you work in engineering, and someone thinking that means know how to fix the central locking on a particular car.

98elise

26,753 posts

162 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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petemurphy said:
swerni said:
To understand and implement strategy doest require you to know how bits and bytes work, that's the responsibly of someone far lower down the food chain. You emply the kind of peope who get excited about port forwarding for that smile
your job is to keep them away from other non It people in the organisation wink
Thats where I fit in as a Business Analyst. We're IT people with social skills smile

PorkInsider

5,906 posts

142 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Purity14 said:
Personally, I'd just employ someone to sit at a desk with a phone to receive calls from each site and log the problem with the third party IT company.
I would imagine he'll be managing processes and budgets, a role which wouldn't be adequately replaced by someone just employed to sit at a desk and log problems.

MissChief

7,133 posts

169 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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I think the term is 'promoted to a position one level above the persons competence'.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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MissChief said:
I think the term is 'promoted to a position one level above the persons competence'.
surely putting someone who understand the PEEKS and POKES into management unless they can relate to the 'customers' within the business is a bigger problem

the peter principle and a lack of competencnies outside their professional setting is what has got NHS nursing into the mess it is in with significant numbers of 'managers' less qualified than both their lay manager peers and their subordinates ... and without proper preparation for managerial and academic level negotiation and discussion ...

Terminator X

15,179 posts

205 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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jpringle819 said:
It isn't just IT Managers that know nothing, I have the misfortune of working with IT Contractors for 6 months of the year and it makes me weep. I do wonder why I am not the one doing the contracting sometimes then I remember the paid travel time, overtime and holidays, the free training and job security and feel a bit better.
Ah bless wink

TX.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

147 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Terminator X said:
jpringle819 said:
It isn't just IT Managers that know nothing, I have the misfortune of working with IT Contractors for 6 months of the year and it makes me weep. I do wonder why I am not the one doing the contracting sometimes then I remember the paid travel time, overtime and holidays, the free training and job security and feel a bit better.
Ah bless wink

TX.
As a contractor myself (albeit not in IT), I found that bit rather amusing too. smile

98elise

26,753 posts

162 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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All that jazz said:
Terminator X said:
jpringle819 said:
It isn't just IT Managers that know nothing, I have the misfortune of working with IT Contractors for 6 months of the year and it makes me weep. I do wonder why I am not the one doing the contracting sometimes then I remember the paid travel time, overtime and holidays, the free training and job security and feel a bit better.
Ah bless wink

TX.
As a contractor myself (albeit not in IT), I found that bit rather amusing too. smile
Same here. Also the notion that the terms of engagement define what you know is quite amusing. I suspect the OP has other reasons for not contracting smile

MikeGoodwin

3,347 posts

118 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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I had to google port forwarding

I knew it once. Thankfully I work in networks doing proper stuff but this sort of st escapes me when you dont do it very often....

I agree that people in IT are st as a whole but whats your excuse for not being able to blag your way into a 'top' job?