Training expectations.
Discussion
Hi all,
I'll try and keep it brief.
Currently working as a business analyst. This time last year I had a handful of conversations with my boss who urged me to begin some training. Great I thought, something to back up over a decade of experience and get a position with the responsibility and package that is long overdue.
Due the fact that it was a new role that would develop over time with the internal requirements of the business it was left to me to put some courses on the table. In the end I thought that the ISEB business analyst professional certificate matched just about everything; the needs of the company, the role and it would be hugely beneficial to me.
This was rejected and the reason explained. This is where the issues began as the explanation just didn’t add up to me (course not relevant when it clearly was). I never heard about the training much again; no offer of alternative at this stage and there seemed to be a very limited supply of this type of training which did hinder progress somewhat.
This has been going on for a year now. Recently I did have a new training course offered (new boss) but it did not align to my current role at all. Seemed too little too late for me. There are a few other instances related to this situation which will only add to the length of this already lengthy post that I found bloody annoying also.
I'm considering getting to the bottom of it all by way of a grievance submission.
Any thoughts on this appreciated. Been reading on here for years so I'll take the rough with the smooth!
I'll try and keep it brief.
Currently working as a business analyst. This time last year I had a handful of conversations with my boss who urged me to begin some training. Great I thought, something to back up over a decade of experience and get a position with the responsibility and package that is long overdue.
Due the fact that it was a new role that would develop over time with the internal requirements of the business it was left to me to put some courses on the table. In the end I thought that the ISEB business analyst professional certificate matched just about everything; the needs of the company, the role and it would be hugely beneficial to me.
This was rejected and the reason explained. This is where the issues began as the explanation just didn’t add up to me (course not relevant when it clearly was). I never heard about the training much again; no offer of alternative at this stage and there seemed to be a very limited supply of this type of training which did hinder progress somewhat.
This has been going on for a year now. Recently I did have a new training course offered (new boss) but it did not align to my current role at all. Seemed too little too late for me. There are a few other instances related to this situation which will only add to the length of this already lengthy post that I found bloody annoying also.
I'm considering getting to the bottom of it all by way of a grievance submission.
Any thoughts on this appreciated. Been reading on here for years so I'll take the rough with the smooth!
Obviously you get good employers and bad. Training is promised and often not provided because it costs the company a load and puts you in a prime position to leave the company for a better paid job. Training can also be seen as less important when you already busy and they can ill afford to give you one day a week off or whatever.
What I did was buy all my IT training books, learn from the Internet and pay for the exams myself. Upon passing I strangely enough was given a surprise payrise. I was able to leave a year later with a clear conscience for lots more money, based on the money I invested in myself. I didn't have to worry that the old company spent a couple of grand on training me - because I paid it myself! Also some companies have a clawback policy where you are obliged to pay back some or all of your training costs if you leave.
You might benefit greatly from the qualifications so is it worth forking out yourself?
What I did was buy all my IT training books, learn from the Internet and pay for the exams myself. Upon passing I strangely enough was given a surprise payrise. I was able to leave a year later with a clear conscience for lots more money, based on the money I invested in myself. I didn't have to worry that the old company spent a couple of grand on training me - because I paid it myself! Also some companies have a clawback policy where you are obliged to pay back some or all of your training costs if you leave.
You might benefit greatly from the qualifications so is it worth forking out yourself?
Thanks for your thoughts TurricanII.
You are spot on with everything mentioned. I have started to go down the pay for training myself route and I'm happy to do so for the reasons you listed. I suppose the real motivation is letting a couple of people know, through the right channels, that empty offers through blatant lying is unacceptable.
Not sure the end result would be worth the hassle should I take the official route, or bide my time looking for a new role and leave them none the wiser.
You are spot on with everything mentioned. I have started to go down the pay for training myself route and I'm happy to do so for the reasons you listed. I suppose the real motivation is letting a couple of people know, through the right channels, that empty offers through blatant lying is unacceptable.
Not sure the end result would be worth the hassle should I take the official route, or bide my time looking for a new role and leave them none the wiser.
What appears to be lying might be poor management/communication, e.g. head of department has been asked to sign off the training repeatedly, but has not replied to these requests. Middle manager gives you a made up ill fitting excuse to avoid slagging off his boss and to get you off his back.
Unless it will benefit your colleagues then probably not worth your time worrying about it. It happens all the time, training that never materialises. Best to spot when this is happening and work around it as you are doing.
Unless it will benefit your colleagues then probably not worth your time worrying about it. It happens all the time, training that never materialises. Best to spot when this is happening and work around it as you are doing.
It's such a shame when employers work this way, failing to inspire staff through poor leadership and lax management practices. If you do have to resort to fully funding yourself, remember you may also be entitled to request time off to train. See: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/T...
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