RE: X6-based M Model On the Way

[dickkark]

Magners P.H said:

dickkark said:

You can`t polish a TURD!

It is not a turd though? is it?

You just do not like the styling or whatever.

Edited by Magners P.H on Wednesday 30th July 10:59

Nt the styling the whole shooting match,but there is not one thing about the looks of the thing that could inspire any thing but pity for the tt who designed it or the tt who said 'yeah that looks great lets make it!
The bloody thing is awful it looks like something from judge dredd.
its a joke car surely? somethingfor someone who dont really need it,
it`s no good for what they want and it is just for the neighbours and the other mums up the school to look at.
Nowt short of a st squat update of the X3 which was`nt a great success if I remember.
do we need another stty pointless off road 4X4 type thing that ill never go off road.
Gving more ammo for the anti car brigade.

[sleep envy]

dickkark said:

You can`t polish a TURD!

nope, but you can roll it in glitter

[toppstuff]

Wonderful car .

For those who feel obliged to sg it off, they really don't get it.

Criticising the car for its size or whatever, really misses the point. The truth is that the Diesel version is fast, comfortable and even pretty decent in the C02 stakes if that really matters to you. Does 35 mpg as well, which is not all bad.

As for the M version, well, why not?

Lets not make it easy for those powerful forces which are marshalling to curb everyones ability to drive whatever the hell they want. Chances are we could be just years away from legislation which will make most of the cars we do lust after, illegal. And by contributing to the debate by villifying 4x4's and those who drive them, people are making it easy for the fascists who want to control us.

So thanks for that.

[mat205125]

sleep envy said:

dickkark said:

You can`t polish a TURD!

nope, but you can roll it in glitter

Have a

Very accurate IMO

[general190]

Pugsey said:

general190 said:

H22K said:

mat205125 said:

H22K said:

LewisR said:

In nearly all walks of life, efficiency is the key. This car isn't that. Ditch it.
Can we have an M1?

Great arguement, because the M1 will be terriffic on fuel, no doubt.

Nice one chap, have a biscuit.

Efficient performance. Making the most of the energy it possesses. Generating that energy would use a lot of fuel, but that energy would result in supercar performance in an M1. instead of bludgeoning 2.5 tonnes of fake tan along the road to a 155 limiter.

An M1 with the same powerplant as this monster will get would be three point something to 60, and run past 200mph if they let it. It would be BMW's Gallardo alternative.

• sigh*

stick the kids and the luggage in the back of the M1 would you, and the skis on the roof-rack, we're off to the alps.

..not a very efficient way to transport all that clobber up a snowy mountain road now, is it.

If you're going to pick random arguements it could go on all day.

In fact, based on the arguement, why do we bother with having big cars at all? Surely the most efficient way of doing things, by the numbers-generated-from-engine-capability, surely a veyron engine in an elise would be the way forward?

yeah thought not.

It all depends on the priorities you want from the car!!!

Yes, so again if you want a big powerful car with lots of room that drives well buy an M5, RS6!

If you want a big car for wafting along in with a high view point buy a Range Rover/X5/Q7 etc.

If you feel the need to a massive (external dimentioned) 4x4 which cant go off road, doesnt have the same towing capacity as a Range Rover, has less space and one less seat than the equivalent 4x4, handles well (for a 2+ tonne SUV) and cost more than the equivalent X5 and look like an idiot with to much money and an Inferiority complex im sure this would be perfect!

Actually it costs a tad LESS than the equivalent X5 - I know because I'm chopping my X5 in for one. I don't need the fifth seat, it handles very well for a large saloon and utterly superbly for an SUV - which you'd know if you'd driven one. As regards you abilty to judge an individuals character and worth by what he drives that's obviously crap as on other days you may see me in my Caterham, ClioV6 battered old Defender or whatever else happens to be in my ownership at the time. Thanks for the insult though - nice.

Oh, better qualify above by saying I'm going for diesel version.

Edited by Pugsey on Wednesday 30th July 18:05

Sorry, was generalising horrificaly due to the people you usually see driving such vehicles (prob due to being cut up on a daily/hourly basis by similar vehicles) Loving the list of cars to! cant beat a battred old defender!

Its not my indention to ofend people, i apologise. good to know its less than the X5 though, would have thought BMW would have charged more for it. what diesel lump do you get in it? is it the 3.0ltr tiwn turbo straight 6?

[drumm23]

Have to agree with the cynics on this one. The ///M badge has obviously been diluted over the years but that doesn't mean BMW should destroy it entirely, an M-X6 is another step toward achieving that. And comparing it to an M5 Touring is just being disingenuous - the differences are huge, literally and figuratively!

[Magners P.H]

drumm23 said:

The ///M badge has obviously been diluted over the years

No, you are wrong.

I can not think of a bad car from the last ten years (well ever actually) to come from the secret bunkers and laboritories of M Division that has been a dissapointment.

The E92 M3 at present represents the pinical of M in my opinion (with one Pistonheader describing it as the closest thing you can get to a Caterham).

The X6-M represents another boundry being broken by some of the best brains in the business.

Good luck to them, Wish I could afford one.

Edited by Magners P.H on Thursday 31st July 08:35

[Pugsey]

mat205125 said:

Pugsey said:

sleep envy said:

you can say you know you're not gay because it doesn't appeal to you but what you can't say is being gay is rubbish if you've not experienced being gay - there is a distinct difference which makes you analogy worthless in this instance

Good. Very good.

Er? So you did, or you didn't like it?

Now lets think about this. I used three words two of which were GOOD and put a smilie.................

[Pugsey]

general190 said:

Pugsey said:

general190 said:

H22K said:

mat205125 said:

H22K said:

LewisR said:

In nearly all walks of life, efficiency is the key. This car isn't that. Ditch it.
Can we have an M1?

Great arguement, because the M1 will be terriffic on fuel, no doubt.

Nice one chap, have a biscuit.

Efficient performance. Making the most of the energy it possesses. Generating that energy would use a lot of fuel, but that energy would result in supercar performance in an M1. instead of bludgeoning 2.5 tonnes of fake tan along the road to a 155 limiter.

An M1 with the same powerplant as this monster will get would be three point something to 60, and run past 200mph if they let it. It would be BMW's Gallardo alternative.

• sigh*

stick the kids and the luggage in the back of the M1 would you, and the skis on the roof-rack, we're off to the alps.

..not a very efficient way to transport all that clobber up a snowy mountain road now, is it.

If you're going to pick random arguements it could go on all day.

In fact, based on the arguement, why do we bother with having big cars at all? Surely the most efficient way of doing things, by the numbers-generated-from-engine-capability, surely a veyron engine in an elise would be the way forward?

yeah thought not.

It all depends on the priorities you want from the car!!!

Yes, so again if you want a big powerful car with lots of room that drives well buy an M5, RS6!

If you want a big car for wafting along in with a high view point buy a Range Rover/X5/Q7 etc.

If you feel the need to a massive (external dimentioned) 4x4 which cant go off road, doesnt have the same towing capacity as a Range Rover, has less space and one less seat than the equivalent 4x4, handles well (for a 2+ tonne SUV) and cost more than the equivalent X5 and look like an idiot with to much money and an Inferiority complex im sure this would be perfect!

Actually it costs a tad LESS than the equivalent X5 - I know because I'm chopping my X5 in for one. I don't need the fifth seat, it handles very well for a large saloon and utterly superbly for an SUV - which you'd know if you'd driven one. As regards you abilty to judge an individuals character and worth by what he drives that's obviously crap as on other days you may see me in my Caterham, ClioV6 battered old Defender or whatever else happens to be in my ownership at the time. Thanks for the insult though - nice.

Oh, better qualify above by saying I'm going for diesel version.

Edited by Pugsey on Wednesday 30th July 18:05

Sorry, was generalising horrificaly due to the people you usually see driving such vehicles (prob due to being cut up on a daily/hourly basis by similar vehicles) Loving the list of cars to! cant beat a battred old defender!

Its not my indention to ofend people, i apologise. good to know its less than the X5 though, would have thought BMW would have charged more for it. what diesel lump do you get in it? is it the 3.0ltr tiwn turbo straight 6?

Appreciate your post mate. No prob really - it's only a car after all and even I don't take them THAT seriously! I kind of knew what you meant anyway. Yep, if I go somewhere posh I love going in the Landie. Pull up at the Hotel, chuck the doorman the keys and ask him to arrange for it to be cleaned! Yes that's the lump - it's already got more torque than the current V8 and for very little money you can get it chipped and another 70ish bhp. I'm really not sure why you'd go for the V8 tbo.

[mateyboy]

sleep envy said:

mateyboy said:

Magners P.H said:

mateyboy said:

it is just rubbish, i dont care how well it handles for an suv, why? why?
why? whats wrong with and estate that weighs 600kgs less and does it all better?

It's always the ones with no cars listed in their profile, isn't it

you stalking me? what does it matter what cars i have or have had. i can tell u its st.

have you driven one?

i dont need to drive one to know its cack, i also dont need to have driven a bus to know its cack or a truck or any other cack to know what cack is. i know a boat will handle like a boat so dont need to drive one to know that. i know that this is a high centre of gravity, ugly piece of excrement and will eat tyres and fuel if you attempt to make it handle at any sort of speed.

........physics

[H22K]

mateyboy said:

i dont need to drive one to know its cack, i also dont need to have driven a bus to know its cack or a truck or any other cack to know what cack is. i know a boat will handle like a boat so dont need to drive one to know that. i know that this is a high centre of gravity, ugly piece of excrement and will eat tyres and fuel if you attempt to make it handle at any sort of speed.

........physics

Noting the sweeping statement in your profile "I don't like 4x4's", I'd suggest any mininformed (read, totally uninformed) judgements you may care to make on any such vehicle and it's driveability are therefore as biased as they are worthless.

As for stating physics, granted the laws can't be broken, but they can be stretched and bent in some pretty incredible ways. See GT-R for a nice example of technology and science over the laws of friction and kinetic energy.

[Ricky944s2]

mateyboy said:

sleep envy said:

mateyboy said:

Magners P.H said:

mateyboy said:

it is just rubbish, i dont care how well it handles for an suv, why? why?
why? whats wrong with and estate that weighs 600kgs less and does it all better?

It's always the ones with no cars listed in their profile, isn't it

you stalking me? what does it matter what cars i have or have had. i can tell u its st.

have you driven one?

i dont need to drive one to know its cack, i also dont need to have driven a bus to know its cack or a truck or any other cack to know what cack is. i know a boat will handle like a boat so dont need to drive one to know that. i know that this is a high centre of gravity, ugly piece of excrement and will eat tyres and fuel if you attempt to make it handle at any sort of speed.

........physics

....Ummm, Engineering????? You tt!!!! What kind of comment is that??? Hey buddy, its time the schools where back, until then you should stick to Bebo i think!!!

[Pugsey]

mateyboy said:

sleep envy said:

mateyboy said:

Magners P.H said:

mateyboy said:

it is just rubbish, i dont care how well it handles for an suv, why? why?
why? whats wrong with and estate that weighs 600kgs less and does it all better?

It's always the ones with no cars listed in their profile, isn't it

you stalking me? what does it matter what cars i have or have had. i can tell u its st.

have you driven one?

i dont need to drive one to know its cack, i also dont need to have driven a bus to know its cack or a truck or any other cack to know what cack is. i know a boat will handle like a boat so dont need to drive one to know that. i know that this is a high centre of gravity, ugly piece of excrement and will eat tyres and fuel if you attempt to make it handle at any sort of speed.

........physics

Lets make sure I understand you. A bus, any bus will handle like a bus. A truck like a truck. No difference between the many hundreds out there? Oh and a boat will handle like, well, a boat - again no difference between the 1,000s out there? So, a car will handle like a car - again no difference? Nice to know that my X6 will handle as well as my Radical then!
What's that you say? Don't be stupid, of course they're all different? Ah I see - and how would you "know" how the X6 handles without trying it then. I ask because your view seems to disagree with those who HAVE driven it. Don't mind you not liking it's looks of course as that's entirely down to personal taste.

[mateyboy]

sorry tosspot does engineering over rule physics? bebo is for your mother.

suv`s can never handle like a well sorted car. end of. if you have actual evidence to persuade me that one can handle like a good car please reveal all. put it this way if i had a small car with half the power it would piss all over the x6 on anything but a straight road. like i said it you tried to handle in the x6 you will rip through tyres in an instant and petrol will be a thing of the past.

please rather than just dismiss my argument as a load or rubbish with no reasoning , pick it apart piece by piece? you think it will outhandle and beat a small 150-200bhp car on anything other than a straight road then tell me why and how? you think it wont shred its tyres in an instant tyring to do so then tell me why? what can it do that say an s4 avant could not? or a 3 series estate? or any other decent estate?

Edited by mateyboy on Thursday 31st July 09:45

[Donut]

mateyboy said:

sorry tosspot does engineering over rule physics? bebo is for your mother.

suv`s can never handle like a well sorted car. end of. if you have actual evidence to persuade me that one can handle like a good car please reveal all. put it this way if i had a small car with half the power it would piss all over the x6 on anything but a straight road. like i said it you tried to handle in the x6 you will rip through tyres in an instant and petrol will be a thing of the past.

please rather than just dismiss my argument as a load or rubbish with no reasoning , pick it apart piece by piece? you think it will outhandle and beat a small 150-200bhp car on anything other than a straight road then tell me why and how? you think it wont shred its tyres in an instant tyring to do so then tell me why? what can it do that say an s4 avant could not? or a 3 series estate? or any other decent estate?

Edited by mateyboy on Thursday 31st July 09:45

We dismiss your argument because it is utter ste.......

Do all curry's taste the same?

And I would say having driven both that the X6 would keep up with an S4 on the twisty bits, has more pressence, is a much better place to sit and is much more fun.....

[fluffyducky]

sleep envy said:

fluffyducky said:

sleep envy said:

fluffyducky said:

I love this bickering...

... as you were.

hardly bickering

a number of people are talking out of their arses having not even sat in the car let alone drive it

I like to think you can still comment on something you've not experienced. For instance I know I'm not gay without having to 'test the water' so to speak.

My opinion is that I think the car looks rubbish in pictures, appears pointless in concept, by all accounts drives amazingly and in the flesh looks bloody awesome! I don't think I could bring my self to buy one though.

• edit: I know, my car history doesn't back up the not gay comment... but you know what I'm getting at?!!???!

Edited by fluffyducky on Wednesday 30th July 16:35

you can say you know you're not gay because it doesn't appeal to you but what you can't say is being gay is rubbish if you've not experienced being gay - there is a distinct difference which makes you analogy worthless in this instance

If I were you I'd be more worried about your surname than car history though

I wasn't actually looking to get into a hand bags at ten paces scenario at all. So I'll disregard the unimaginative and immature school yard jibe.

How is my analogy not appropriate? Despite my gay porn star name I know I don't want to become an uphill gardener without having 'a test drive', I also know I wouldn't enjoy it. However for those who like that sort of thing its probably the best thing since sliced bread. I hope you understand now?! So, if I had the money, fancied driving fast, tall and intimidating 4x4 come coupe's then the X6 would be the car for me.

As I also said in my post, after seeing one in the flesh I'm actually in the minority who think its an awesome, brutal looking machine... I'm a fan! This is despite not 'getting it'.

[Pugsey]

mateyboy said:

sorry tosspot does engineering over rule physics? bebo is for your mother.

suv`s can never handle like a well sorted car. end of. if you have actual evidence to persuade me that one can handle like a good car please reveal all. put it this way if i had a small car with half the power it would piss all over the x6 on anything but a straight road. like i said it you tried to handle in the x6 you will rip through tyres in an instant and petrol will be a thing of the past.

please rather than just dismiss my argument as a load or rubbish with no reasoning , pick it apart piece by piece? you think it will outhandle and beat a small 150-200bhp car on anything other than a straight road then tell me why and how? you think it wont shred its tyres in an instant tyring to do so then tell me why? what can it do that say an s4 avant could not? or a 3 series estate? or any other decent estate?

Edited by mateyboy on Thursday 31st July 09:45

I'll ignore you instant insult.

ALL you arguements - based on admitted zero experience of the car - have already been shot down by a number of people on here who have actually driven the car. Yet you ignore their comments or 'know better'. Someone on here has even taken the car on track and from my own experience I'd say that the car would easily live with a hot hatch or larger saloon over a challenging B road. Further, every motoring journo who has driven the car agrees with us. Here's just one example.

David Vivian in EVO.

"The upshot is that the X6's size and bulk evaporate when you're pressing on. It's agility, body control and stability at speed are astounding, more scaled up hot hatch than tied down bulk container. The X6 snaked through the slalom test at a speed that left us all open mouthed - not just at the acuity of it's transient responses but also at the steadfastly neutral attitude and economy of body motion."

It actually goes on a fair bit more but you get the point?

[OllieC]

well purely from a looks point of view, i cannot stand these jacked up tanks. so there, yaaa boo sucks.

[Mar10]

Personally I don't get it, I just don't see the point in the hyper powered SUV's but hey, each to his own.

IMO: You want a 4x4? Buy a defender. You want a fast 4x4? Buy a V8 Defender. You want a fast, safe family car to take you skiing? Buy an RS6.

[MrTappets]

I can't express how much i loathe this vehicle.