RE: X6-based M Model On the Way

[FWDRacer]

Pugsey said:

And another thing. Not only is it a superb drive but it scatters the oppositon - sorry I mean other road users (you know the one's who daren't put their cars on their profile) - on mini roundabouts, outside lane of motorway etc in a MOST satisfactory manner. Like minnows evading a pike they were this morning!

Internet Inadequacy. I'd get that properly seen to and diagnosed if I were you. Get out of way little man syndrome others call it. Whichever way it represents itself, many people find it a repulsive trait in human beings.

If BMW driver's feel stigmatised - look right here - X6 marks the spot.

As you were.

Edited by FWDRacer on Wednesday 30th July 13:17

[sleep envy]

fluffyducky said:

I love this bickering...

... as you were.

hardly bickering

a number of people are talking out of their arses having not even sat in the car let alone drive it

[Pugsey]

FWDRacer said:

Pugsey said:

And another thing. Not only is it a superb drive but it scatters the oppositon - sorry I mean other road users (you know the one's who daren't put their cars on their profile) - on mini roundabouts, outside lane of motorway etc in a MOST satisfactory manner. Like minnows evading a pike they were this morning!

Internet Inadequacy. I'd get that properly seen to and diagnosed if I were you. Get out of way little man syndrome others call it. Whichever way it represents itself, many people find it a repulsive trait in human being.

If BMW driver's feel stigmatised - look right here.

As you were.

Thing is - I DON'T CARE what they think as long as they get out of the way. Saves all this 'is it your right of way or mine' rubbish. After ME thankyou very much.

[mat205125]

havoc said:

mat205125 said:

If plastering body kitted diesels with the once-legendary M\\ logo wasn't bad enough, they are now going to prostitute the brand further by peppering the logo all over a 4mpg, 2 tonne, 20" wheeled, footballer cock extension. They should be ashamed.

Porsche, who have a stronger motorsport link than BMW, have already done it, so why shouldn't BMW.

Porsche have done a big bruiser 4x4, but they haven't prostituted their most sporting RS and RSR branding / resources on it.

The cayenne is porsches cash cow in the same way as the X5 and now X6. It'll never wear an RS or RSR badge.

havoc said:

I think it's ugly, pointless, and will give the greens (pinks?) another target to blather on about. But for these image- and badge-obsessed times an X6M will be the new 'must have'!

And I will defend the owners rights to buy it...because if I don't, how long before they ban supercars, then sports cars, then anything that isn't a diesel or a hybrid???

I agree with your right to buy stance, no matter how wide the gulf between an individuals taste and affluence IMO.

My disappointment is that BMW created their M\\ division/brand in the 70's. Reserved it for only the best models, sports saloons and homologation specials through the 80's and much of the 90's. Now the M\\ logo is little more than a slap of garnish to sling onto their newest, baddest, and most expensive products. Granted M Division do an excellent job with each of the projects they are handed, but I bet that they would rather their projects were something a little more "sporting" .... What could they do with the chance to play with an E46 M3 engine, a "proper" diff, a 1 series coupe, and 50% of the budget that will be lavished on this behemoth?

[Cassius81]

For me the issue with these is not quality (good) the way they drive (no doubt excellent, as one would expect from BMW), it is the fact they look ridiculous at best, at worst ugly. The same applies to the Cayenne.

If you want a fast, comfortable, luxury SUV, buy a RR Supercharged (but not a sport, please....).

[PhilLL]

mat205125 said:

havoc said:

mat205125 said:

If plastering body kitted diesels with the once-legendary M\\ logo wasn't bad enough, they are now going to prostitute the brand further by peppering the logo all over a 4mpg, 2 tonne, 20" wheeled, footballer cock extension. They should be ashamed.

Porsche, who have a stronger motorsport link than BMW, have already done it, so why shouldn't BMW.

Porsche have done a big bruiser 4x4, but they haven't prostituted their most sporting RS and RSR branding / resources on it.

The cayenne is porsches cash cow in the same way as the X5 and now X6. It'll never wear an RS or RSR badge.

havoc said:

I think it's ugly, pointless, and will give the greens (pinks?) another target to blather on about. But for these image- and badge-obsessed times an X6M will be the new 'must have'!

And I will defend the owners rights to buy it...because if I don't, how long before they ban supercars, then sports cars, then anything that isn't a diesel or a hybrid???

I agree with your right to buy stance, no matter how wide the gulf between an individuals taste and affluence IMO.

My disappointment is that BMW created their M\\ division/brand in the 70's. Reserved it for only the best models, sports saloons and homologation specials through the 80's and much of the 90's. Now the M\\ logo is little more than a slap of garnish to sling onto their newest, baddest, and most expensive products. Granted M Division do an excellent job with each of the projects they are handed, but I bet that they would rather their projects were something a little more "sporting" .... What could they do with the chance to play with an E46 M3 engine, a "proper" diff, a 1 series coupe, and 50% of the budget that will be lavished on this behemoth?

Yeah I'm surprised that there will be no M3 touring, surely BMW are missing a trick there?? As for the 1 series, a proper M version would have been very interesting, at the least it would have been nice to see a production version of the Tii concept rather than some expensive add-ons.

[Cassius81]

Yes, given the number of RS4 estates you see, it seems madness not to make an M3 touring... Personally, I think there is a lot to be said for all that power in a practical, boring (from a distance) estate body...

Like Angelina in a staid suit...

[Ricky944s2]

mat205125 said:

My disappointment is that BMW created their M\\ division/brand in the 70's. Reserved it for only the best models, sports saloons and homologation specials through the 80's and much of the 90's. Now the M\\ logo is little more than a slap of garnish to sling onto their newest, baddest, and most expensive products.....

So true, gone are the days i used to shout 'LOOK, AN M3!!!' The ///M badge has been hoared about and Hire Purchase has destroyed the exclusivity of it, every man and his dogs got one!! (sorry if that sounds snobby, but its true) also the E36 M3 is nothing more than the modern day 1.4SRi Nova for the new-age chavs.

[Turbo Sandwhich]

seen a couple of these about belfast, still unsure about them but I reckon an M version may change my mind! I reckon they go the full hog with the 5.0L V10!

[H22K]

LewisR said:

In nearly all walks of life, efficiency is the key. This car isn't that. Ditch it.
Can we have an M1?

Great arguement, because the M1 will be terriffic on fuel, no doubt.

Nice one chap, have a biscuit.

[6th Gear]

Like most when I saw the pictures of the X6 released on the web I was quick to say I disliked it. However having seen a few on the roads here in Dubai and having had the opporutnity to get up close to one in the showroom, I think it's an awesome looking machine. The pictures do not do it justice.

[Pugsey]

Ricky944s2 said:

mat205125 said:

My disappointment is that BMW created their M\\ division/brand in the 70's. Reserved it for only the best models, sports saloons and homologation specials through the 80's and much of the 90's. Now the M\\ logo is little more than a slap of garnish to sling onto their newest, baddest, and most expensive products.....

So true, gone are the days i used to shout 'LOOK, AN M3!!!' The ///M badge has been hoared about and Hire Purchase has destroyed the exclusivity of it, every man and his dogs got one!!

Hear this trotted out all the time and not so sure. I live in a fairly affluent area of the country and also trek into London now and then and can't say I see current M3s very often at all. Additionally since it's a blindingly good car I don't really give a stuff what badge BMW stick on the back of it or what heritage comes with that badge since that effects my driving pleasure not one iota.

[EdJ]

Let's be thankful that in this day and age, they are still making (and selling!) cars like this.

[mat205125]

H22K said:

LewisR said:

In nearly all walks of life, efficiency is the key. This car isn't that. Ditch it.
Can we have an M1?

Great arguement, because the M1 will be terriffic on fuel, no doubt.

Nice one chap, have a biscuit.

Efficient performance. Making the most of the energy it possesses. Generating that energy would use a lot of fuel, but that energy would result in supercar performance in an M1. instead of bludgeoning 2.5 tonnes of fake tan along the road to a 155 limiter.

An M1 with the same powerplant as this monster will get would be three point something to 60, and run past 200mph if they let it. It would be BMW's Gallardo alternative.

[LewisR]

Thank you!!!

[huge]

Ahh....Pistonheads......full of people who pontificate that certain cars are st....even though they have never,or are ever likely to,drive one !!
I have never driven a Veyron,a McLaren or a Ford S-Max.....so they must all be st too...

[Pugsey]

mat205125 said:

H22K said:

LewisR said:

In nearly all walks of life, efficiency is the key. This car isn't that. Ditch it.
Can we have an M1?

Great arguement, because the M1 will be terriffic on fuel, no doubt.

Nice one chap, have a biscuit.

Efficient performance. Making the most of the energy it possesses. Generating that energy would use a lot of fuel, but that energy would result in supercar performance in an M1. instead of bludgeoning 2.5 tonnes of fake tan along the road to a 155 limiter.

An M1 with the same powerplant as this monster will get would be three point something to 60, and run past 200mph if they let it. It would be BMW's Gallardo alternative.

Mat. You seem to be saying 'if they make the car I want then that's OK' but anything else isn't.

May I also refer you to this peach of a quote? "Feel like a change for the New Year and fancy taking advantage of the crashing prices for premium brand, big engined 'JUICERS'. Stuff the cost of fuel" Now who's profile do you think I lifted that from?

[OllieC]

Pugsey said:

FWDRacer said:

Pugsey said:

And another thing. Not only is it a superb drive but it scatters the oppositon - sorry I mean other road users (you know the one's who daren't put their cars on their profile) - on mini roundabouts, outside lane of motorway etc in a MOST satisfactory manner. Like minnows evading a pike they were this morning!

Internet Inadequacy. I'd get that properly seen to and diagnosed if I were you. Get out of way little man syndrome others call it. Whichever way it represents itself, many people find it a repulsive trait in human being.

If BMW driver's feel stigmatised - look right here.

As you were.

Thing is - I DON'T CARE what they think as long as they get out of the way. Saves all this 'is it your right of way or mine' rubbish. After ME thankyou very much.

nah u cant beat a knackered looking white van for this purpose. and they are cheaper

i dont suppose they drive as nicely though

[sheffcity_will]

Me and my friends saw one of these X6's at the recent British Open. It sparked a similar discussion between us, as to whether there was any point in them and the looks etc. Personally I think that the people who can afford this kind of car are always going to be looking for new toys to buy and play with such as this. It got plenty of attention from everyone it passed so it's got a lot of appeal in that sense too. Generally though, imo there is no real point in it and so making an M version seems to be even more pointless.

[H22K]

mat205125 said:

H22K said:

LewisR said:

In nearly all walks of life, efficiency is the key. This car isn't that. Ditch it.
Can we have an M1?

Great arguement, because the M1 will be terriffic on fuel, no doubt.

Nice one chap, have a biscuit.

Efficient performance. Making the most of the energy it possesses. Generating that energy would use a lot of fuel, but that energy would result in supercar performance in an M1. instead of bludgeoning 2.5 tonnes of fake tan along the road to a 155 limiter.

An M1 with the same powerplant as this monster will get would be three point something to 60, and run past 200mph if they let it. It would be BMW's Gallardo alternative.

• sigh*

stick the kids and the luggage in the back of the M1 would you, and the skis on the roof-rack, we're off to the alps.

..not a very efficient way to transport all that clobber up a snowy mountain road now, is it.

If you're going to pick random arguements it could go on all day.

In fact, based on the arguement, why do we bother with having big cars at all? Surely the most efficient way of doing things, by the numbers-generated-from-engine-capability, surely a veyron engine in an elise would be the way forward?

yeah thought not.

It all depends on the priorities you want from the car!!!