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bumcrack said:
Condemned hardly, by a bunch of beemer owners who only want to talk up prices, but seem quite happy to post a load of clobbers about my car, even though they didn't know what it was at the start of this discussion, in some sort of silly tit-for-tat agreement regarding possible deprecation in the future , now that's churlish. SOooo rich coming from CSL owners, a car generally recognised as completely over priced when new, hence the reason why values dropped like a stone as soon as it rolled of the forecourt. All this because I dare to suggest their cars not worth what they think, please get a grip and remove head from arse!!!
I couldn't care less what the owners of the fastest deprecation M3's ever produced thought.
PS. I'll add you to the list of poster who made the user name commment, your number 58, just after Beemer5 at number 57
I couldn't care less what the owners of the fastest deprecation M3's ever produced thought.
PS. I'll add you to the list of poster who made the user name commment, your number 58, just after Beemer5 at number 57
I ain't a beemer owner, and never have been,however, I do recognise that the CSL is an awesome bit of kit.
'Generally recognised as overpriced'. Generally, by who ? Would this be the 'general public', who 'generally' have no idea. You mean the same 'general public' who are still asking how Porsche got away with charging more for a hardtopped Boxster than the softtop.
As for residuals, I'd say a car holding over 50% of its value in 4 years is pretty good. I'll confidently say that your Cayman (and my Boxster) won't bear so well.
The reason ? Basic economics. Supply & demand. The CSL was a limited supply whereas the Porsches will be built until no-one else wants one.
The Cayman is a brilliant car. It is however a shadow of the car it could be due to Porsche's unwillingness to make it a 911 beater. The CSL wasn't treading on any toes & therefore didn't have to be restricted to the same degree.
p.s put me down as no.60
bumcrack said:
ChrisW. said:
bumcrack said:
I'll do what I like, thanks.
Now feck off!!
Now feck off!!
Happy to give offence, and unhappy to take the alternative view ?
Condemned by his own fingers, and too foolish to see it ?
Bumcrack pretty well sums it up ...
Condemned hardly, by a bunch of beemer owners who only want to talk up prices, but seem quite happy to post a load of clobbers about my car, even though they didn't know what it was at the start of this discussion, in some sort of silly tit-for-tat agreement regarding possible deprecation in the future , now that's churlish. SOooo rich coming from CSL owners, a car generally recognised as completely over priced when new, hence the reason why values dropped like a stone as soon as it rolled of the forecourt. All this because I dare to suggest their cars not worth what they think, please get a grip and remove head from arse!!!
I couldn't care less what the owners of the fastest deprecation M3's ever produced thought.
PS. I'll add you to the list of poster who made the user name commment, your number 58, just after Beemer5 at number 57
Edited by bumcrack on Thursday 22 March 16:28
You really have no idea what you are on about, and I'm starting to believe that you are one big wind-up. Nobody could be so deluded and irrational. If you are going to spout off your guff on here, please back it up with FACTS. You haven't made any valid points in this whole thread, let alone proved any of your points. If CSL's weren't valued as they are, then the trade wouldn't value them as such. We as owners don't make the prices up. The motor industry is far too big for us to do that. You personally believe that CSL's are overpriced, and that's fine. We all have opinions, as do motoring journalist and professional racing drivers who believe the CSL to be a bargain - even at the original new selling price. But like I said, we all have opinions. What does annoy people is your continued inability to listen to other peoples views and your persistent unfounded comments.
If you were referring to my comment regarding the prices paid for the Cayman then I'm afraid that was fact and it was not my intention to come across as churlish. Although your response did amuse me as it was not only ironic but, also hypocritical. It must have taken you a while to come up with something so thoughtful. I actually have nothing against a Cayman, although it is chalk and cheese compared to a CSL. If you have experienced a GT3, compare that to your Cayman. No doubt you will also find that overpriced. These types of cars are not to everyones taste and they are usually bought for a purpose.
hobo said:
bumcrack said:
Condemned hardly, by a bunch of beemer owners who only want to talk up prices, but seem quite happy to post a load of clobbers about my car, even though they didn't know what it was at the start of this discussion, in some sort of silly tit-for-tat agreement regarding possible deprecation in the future , now that's churlish. SOooo rich coming from CSL owners, a car generally recognised as completely over priced when new, hence the reason why values dropped like a stone as soon as it rolled of the forecourt. All this because I dare to suggest their cars not worth what they think, please get a grip and remove head from arse!!!
I couldn't care less what the owners of the fastest deprecation M3's ever produced thought.
PS. I'll add you to the list of poster who made the user name commment, your number 58, just after Beemer5 at number 57
I couldn't care less what the owners of the fastest deprecation M3's ever produced thought.
PS. I'll add you to the list of poster who made the user name commment, your number 58, just after Beemer5 at number 57
I ain't a beemer owner, and never have been,however, I do recognise that the CSL is an awesome bit of kit.
'Generally recognised as overpriced'. Generally, by who ? Would this be the 'general public', who 'generally' have no idea. You mean the same 'general public' who are still asking how Porsche got away with charging more for a hardtopped Boxster than the softtop.
As for residuals, I'd say a car holding over 50% of its value in 4 years is pretty good. I'll confidently say that your Cayman (and my Boxster) won't bear so well.
The reason ? Basic economics. Supply & demand. The CSL was a limited supply whereas the Porsches will be built until no-one else wants one.
The Cayman is a brilliant car. It is however a shadow of the car it could be due to Porsche's unwillingness to make it a 911 beater. The CSL wasn't treading on any toes & therefore didn't have to be restricted to the same degree.
p.s put me down as no.60
Edited by dazren on Friday 23 March 10:37
bumcrack said:
m3desmo said:
You can make me no. 59!!!
So why don't you sling your hook, and go and troll elsewhere for 60 and upwards for your collection!
So why don't you sling your hook, and go and troll elsewhere for 60 and upwards for your collection!
Edited by m3desmo on Thursday 22 March 16:42
Why don't you feck off, prick
Well done, you obviously picked that comment up from nursery classes! What amazes me is how you managed to afford a Porsche when you clearly have the brain capacity of a peanut! I don't make a habit of interacting with numbf**ks like you, so until you have some intelligent comment to make, I won't bother with answering you anymore! And before you come back for more, try doing some growing up!
Edited by m3desmo on Friday 23 March 08:39
There is a lovely low mileage CSL in the classifieds at almost £40k.
The scary thing is, it may be worth it.
Bumcrack dares to talk about the original depreciation of the CSL, I suffered the full whack first hand.
I am so pleased that the market is starting to value the qualities that I saw --- 'shame I didn't keep it because mine was lovely as well.
I wouldn't mind a Caymen either, but the two are very different cars --- and I prefer my steak a little more raw.
The scary thing is, it may be worth it.
Bumcrack dares to talk about the original depreciation of the CSL, I suffered the full whack first hand.
I am so pleased that the market is starting to value the qualities that I saw --- 'shame I didn't keep it because mine was lovely as well.
I wouldn't mind a Caymen either, but the two are very different cars --- and I prefer my steak a little more raw.
ChrisW. said:
There is a lovely low mileage CSL in the classifieds at almost £40k.
The scary thing is, it may be worth it.
Bumcrack dares to talk about the original depreciation of the CSL, I suffered the full whack first hand.
I am so pleased that the market is starting to value the qualities that I saw --- 'shame I didn't keep it because mine was lovely as well.
I wouldn't mind a Caymen either, but the two are very different cars --- and I prefer my steak a little more raw.
The scary thing is, it may be worth it.
Bumcrack dares to talk about the original depreciation of the CSL, I suffered the full whack first hand.
I am so pleased that the market is starting to value the qualities that I saw --- 'shame I didn't keep it because mine was lovely as well.
I wouldn't mind a Caymen either, but the two are very different cars --- and I prefer my steak a little more raw.
Well done for being an original buyer
- unfortunately my pockets aren't that deep! They are fantastic value now though and seem to have stabilised nicely.
Oh and BC - FO!
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