eBay Special: TA Technix
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Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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£185 quid and 4 working days later, voila.








Dift

1,660 posts

251 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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How are you finding them?

Are the springs the same on the front and back?

Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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Don't know yet, I gave up trying to fit them as the lower wishbone bolt was shot. I gave it to my garage and haven't got it back yet. I'll update the thread when she comes back smile

JFReturns

3,784 posts

195 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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Nice one, fitted them to mine and it transformed the car compared with the knackered old shocks!

Conor D

2,124 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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JFReturns said:
Nice one, fitted them to mine and it transformed the car compared with the knackered old shocks!
What's the ride like with them?

JFReturns

3,784 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Very good IMO, a decent compromise between ride comfort and handling. Mine are set to maximum ride height on the advice of Mark at Freelance Mazda, as the ride worsens if you lower it too much.

Dift

1,660 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Ahhhh yes, Mark had a good old look at mine too.
He's a good chap. I can't really fault the ride of mine, certainly not too stiff for roads and minimal roll for track work.

Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Just got back and I have to say I'm not really impressed. Very resonant over bumps, although it does grip a little more in the corners.

I didn't fit them though, and I'm not exactly sure how the should be wound. At the moment the collar is about an inch from the bottom of the shock. I'm thinking if I screw the collar upwards the springs will be harder but I'll get more ride height?

Advice welcome smile

Dift

1,660 posts

251 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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They do struggle with high frequency bumps, but generally mine aren't too bad. They are only height adjustable, so yes, lower the car = stiffer. Mines as low as I dare to go. It's just about speed bump friendly, although I have raised it a good 30 mm from when I bought the car. It was too low, and terrible had composure.

My previous car had 3 way ohlins, and these aren't too bad.

ady_GTi

326 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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I dont know where people get this idea from but spring seat height has no effect on stiffness or ride quality.

The exception being if you go too low you will be sat on the bumpstops which will give a crap ride and unpredictable handling.

Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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I just made up the spring rate thing, it's not based on knowledge or anything :s

JFReturns

3,784 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Set them to the maximum ride height!

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Whatever ride height you go for, get the alignment sorted afterwards. It won't handle if you don't and it can affect the ride too.

Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Well, I owe this thread an update after the events of today.

I'd spent the last week regretting my purchase: the coilovers as fitted by the mechanic were awful. Horrifically crashy over bumps, so much so that I kept bumping my head on the bars of the roof if I went over any kind of small crest. There was also a graunchy sound coming from the OSR, because the coil was rubbing against the rear driveshaft. This was particularly bad in reverse. I was depressed.

So today, I jacked her arse up in the air to see what I could do about the situation. I measured the distance between the coil retaining collar and the base of the shock and it was only 40mm. This, bearing in mind the advice previously mentioned in the thread to have them set as high as possible, was clearly a problem. So I grabbed the collar spanner and after some brief modifying (had to grind the end of the handle off the spanner in order to get enough turn on the collar between teeth) and set to work. I raised them by another 40mm, to roughly halfway up the thread on the shock. This was a massive pain in the arse to do on the car and took about 90 minutes to do both sides.

But the difference is astonishing! Like night and day! It's now only unsettled by really big crests, and there's none of the "pogo" effect I've been experiencing all week. Preloading the helper springs is clearly the answer. Over the weekend I'll be winding up probably another 20mm on the rear and then 20-40 on the front (which isn't as bouncy) and see if that improves things further.

They still aren't the best in the world, but clearly once set up right they will be a pretty effective replacement for OEM if you don't want to splash too much cash.

JFReturns

3,784 posts

195 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Nice one smile

gdaybruce

763 posts

249 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I was confused by this until I looked at the pictures at the top of the thread more closely (and spotted the cat!) and realised that each strut has two springs - hence your reference to pre loading the helper springs.

They cost more but I'm glad that I opted for Gaz fixed height coilovers with adjustable dampers. I always suspected that setting the ride height was a variable I'd only ever want to be bothered with once and I kind of trusted that Gaz would have got it sorted. I'm very happy with the result - it's literally a 60 second job to adjust all four dampers and the ride height is just where I wanted it.

Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Undoubtedly the Gaz units are a step up in quality, these are the very cheapest of the cheap so some crappyness should be expected.

For the record, the rears are now set with the collars 90mm from the bottom of the damper, and the fronts are at 45mm. I'll take a picture later to show the "stance" but I'm not really too arsed about how it looks, the main thing is that the coilovers work now.

Graebob

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2,172 posts

231 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I think it might be a little high at the front...

Dift

1,660 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Front looks a little high, and back a little low (for me).

I had that pogo effect at the start when I bought the car with the TA's on... Much better now it's higher.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

233 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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gdaybruce said:
I was confused by this until I looked at the pictures at the top of the thread more closely (and spotted the cat!) and realised that each strut has two springs - hence your reference to pre loading the helper springs.

They cost more but I'm glad that I opted for Gaz fixed height coilovers with adjustable dampers. I always suspected that setting the ride height was a variable I'd only ever want to be bothered with once and I kind of trusted that Gaz would have got it sorted. I'm very happy with the result - it's literally a 60 second job to adjust all four dampers and the ride height is just where I wanted it.
This is good news: the fixed height Gaz kit is what I'm waiting for Parts to get back in stock.