Omega Speedmaster variants

Omega Speedmaster variants

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LukeBird

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17,170 posts

210 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Just wondered if people rate the Automatic versions or are they considered inferior to the original manual wind ones?
Any idea on value of a Reduced as well?

I think if I do go for one, it'll have to be one of the smaller versions as I have tiddly wrists! hehe

TIA! thumbup

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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I think that the only reason why they might not be "rated" in quite the same way as the Moon Watch is because they aren't the original watch, rather than because they're in any way inferior from the perspective of the movement.

I know a couple of people with the reduced watch, and it doesn't feel much smaller until you put it next to the bigger watch. Have you tried on the full sized watch? You should, because it really isn't a big watch by today's standards, and it also seems to wear very well on the wrist for it's size - particularly because it isn't as deep as something like today's Heuer Carrera.


cyberface

12,214 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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The Schumacher limited editions were automatic reduced Speedys - don't think they aren't 'rated' - they are quite collectible.

Agreed about the size, sometimes nice to have a slightly smaller watch. The bracelet on the reduced Speedy was crap though, don't know if they updated it - I recently put a perforated leather strap on my 2000 watch and it looks ace. There's a thread with pics a couple of weeks back.

LukeBird

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17,170 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Stuart said:
Have you tried on the full sized watch? You should, because it really isn't a big watch by today's standards, and it also seems to wear very well on the wrist for it's size - particularly because it isn't as deep as something like today's Heuer Carrera.
I haven't, no. I'll maybe try it (shouldn't be looking at bloody watches!) but I'm pretty sure around 40mm is going to be too big for me.
I appreciate it's not the moon watch and as such, isn't the original. But call me lazy, an Automatic is more appealing than a self-wind! smile

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Luke - I've just ordered (last night) a broad arrow. I am quite a thin guy and have quite thin wrists, but on trying on both Stuart's speedmaster pro and Ed's broad arrow, they both felt absolutely fine - and I certainly don't like big watches.

I found out, only recently, the modern movement is by George Daniells, a respected master watchmaker, which is one of the reaons for the higher price over the Speedmaster Pro. I, too, preferred the idea of an automatic rather than a windup - don't know why, I just did smile

LukeBird

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17,170 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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You're not bloody helping Tony! wink

ETA Congrats on the purchase! thumbup
I bought my first nice watch, a Seamaster Professional Automatic, this month. biggrin

Edited by LukeBird on Tuesday 17th November 11:31

ehasler

8,566 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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As Tony says, I've got the Broad Arrow, and thin wrists too, and it looks and feels absolutely fine.

ETA here's a pic of it on my skinny little wrists biggrin





Edited by ehasler on Tuesday 17th November 11:35

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Tony's right - the co-axial escapement is a hugely respected piece of watch technology, and the invention of none other than arguably the maestro of watch-making, George Daniels. He's a proper car nut too.

Wikipedia Entry
George Daniels homepage


TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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LukeBird said:
You're not bloody helping Tony! wink

ETA Congrats on the purchase! thumbup
I bought my first nice watch, a Seamaster Professional Automatic, this month. biggrin
Sorry hehe

It's my first nice watch too, so I was somewhat nervous (still am, actually!). But I considered lots (much to the annoyance of others) and so am very happy with my choice (identical watch to Ed's above, but with bracelet rather than strap).

Ed - you're making me excited now! Hang on, that didn't come out right.

I've been reading a little about Mr Daniels - he is indeed very well respected. Been trying to learn a little about how the movements work - it really is stunning!

Dominic H

3,275 posts

233 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
LukeBird said:
You're not bloody helping Tony! wink

ETA Congrats on the purchase! thumbup
I bought my first nice watch, a Seamaster Professional Automatic, this month. biggrin
Sorry hehe

It's my first nice watch too, so I was somewhat nervous (still am, actually!). But I considered lots (much to the annoyance of others) and so am very happy with my choice (identical watch to Ed's above, but with bracelet rather than strap).

Ed - you're making me excited now! Hang on, that didn't come out right.

I've been reading a little about Mr Daniels - he is indeed very well respected. Been trying to learn a little about how the movements work - it really is stunning!
Won't be long Tony....

tertius

6,860 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
Luke - I've just ordered (last night) a broad arrow. I am quite a thin guy and have quite thin wrists, but on trying on both Stuart's speedmaster pro and Ed's broad arrow, they both felt absolutely fine - and I certainly don't like big watches.

I found out, only recently, the modern movement is by George Daniells, a respected master watchmaker, which is one of the reaons for the higher price over the Speedmaster Pro. I, too, preferred the idea of an automatic rather than a windup - don't know why, I just did smile
For clarity though the Reduced does not have the co-axial movement. And the Broad Arrow and the Pro are both 42mm compared with the 35.5mm of the Reduced

LukeBird

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17,170 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Stuart said:
Tony's right - the co-axial escapement is a hugely respected piece of watch technology, and the invention of none other than arguably the maestro of watch-making, George Daniels. He's a proper car nut too.
Yeah I've read a little about him before (I was reading up on the difference between the Co-axial Seamaster Chrono and the older Chrono). I presume from the above comment, you bought from Dom H?

I shall have to look into a Speedmaster, but with a planned car purchase coming up, I can't splurge masses on another watch!

FunkyGibbon

3,786 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
Luke - I've just ordered (last night) a broad arrow.
I really really like the speedy broad arrow in steel/red gold on leather:



Just need to convince SWMBO that I do need a yet another watch.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Funky - I saw that exact watch and agree it looks bloody superb! However I think it was something like double the price?!

LukeBird

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17,170 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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tertius said:
For clarity though the Reduced does not have the co-axial movement. And the Broad Arrow and the Pro are both 42mm compared with the 35.5mm of the Reduced
I think if I want a co-axial movement, I'll chop in my Seamaster Pro and go for the newer co-axial one. As I said, I think I'm going to look like a toddler wearing my dad's watch otherwise! hehe

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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LukeBird said:
As I said, I think I'm going to look like a toddler wearing my dad's watch otherwise! hehe
Bet you won't. The Seamaster will feel bigger on the wrist than the Speedmaster - you're going to have to come up with another reason not to buy it immediately I'm afraid...

FunkyGibbon

3,786 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
Funky - I saw that exact watch and agree it looks bloody superb! However I think it was something like double the price?!
yes the price is one of the issues that's stopping me just saying feck it what the hell.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Stuart said:
LukeBird said:
As I said, I think I'm going to look like a toddler wearing my dad's watch otherwise! hehe
Bet you won't. The Seamaster will feel bigger on the wrist than the Speedmaster - you're going to have to come up with another reason not to buy it immediately I'm afraid...
You should put a disclaimer in before you talk/say/act, Stuart. "Warning, what I am about to say might cost you a lot of money" hehe

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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FunkyGibbon said:
TonyHetherington said:
Funky - I saw that exact watch and agree it looks bloody superb! However I think it was something like double the price?!
yes the price is one of the issues that's stopping me just saying feck it what the hell.
In a similar vein, this DeVille is quite stunning too...


ehasler

8,566 posts

284 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
Funky - I saw that exact watch and agree it looks bloody superb! However I think it was something like double the price?!
I saw this too when I bought mine, and thought it looked great too - but it was about £1k extra. The full gold case version is about £8k I think!