Sealine SC35

[m0ssy]

Lambo FirstBlood said:

m0ssy said:

Everyone has different tastes but I do wonder why this particular boat? IMHO you could get yourself something very tasty for the sort of dough you need to part with for this.

Is there one going super cheap you are aware of?
Have you looked at any boats in the flesh?

Perhaps do a advanced search on www.theyachtmarket.com for what delights are available within your price range and your decision on what boat you want may change

I'm relatively new to boats. I did toy with buying a much bigger, more expensive Sunseeker a few years back but decided I wouldn't use it enough. I have seen an SC35 in the flesh and I've already explained what I liked about it. I know there is a deal to be done on ordering a new one but that wasn't my main motivator, it was the flexibility of the cockpit space.

I'm really surprised to hear so many people hate it so much. Any suggestions on alternatives

My taste of an alternative may not be your cup of tea, and there is such a wide choice of different boats available.

Its all about what's going to suit your requirements, by the sounds of it helm and cockpit space seems to be a very important factor, so would guess you would only be using it when the weather is glorious and you can fly about the estuary with a few pals drinking fizzy wine and gin? or perhaps sat in the Marina entertaining?

I guess if you were say a keen waterskier, wakeboarder and would only ever go out for this there would be alternatives, or if you were looking on doing the odd 4 or 7 day break perhaps travelling to France/ Holland and wanted to use it as a floating flat to stay on and entertain then there would be other alternatives, have a think what is important to you as there is a type of boat out there to suit everyones requirements.

If you are buying brand new you will not have to compromise on anything, you can and should get the exact boat you want, in the exact colours, exact layout lock stock, but if you buy 2nd hand (like me) you will have to make some compromises imho, but will not lose a 1/3rd of the value in the first 6 months or so.

I don't think the SC35 is that bad, it has a lot of good qualities about it, but when I buy a boat I will make sure it is the right choice of all the boats available to me.

My suggestion is this, you pick me up from my house where we then toss a coin as to which one of us tells my misses we are off to Monaco to look at some new boats for a few days (she wont mind honest)

Wishing to contribute, I shall then drive us down there in your MP4-12C all the way to the finest five star hotel, yes I am prepared to drive ALL the way we can then spend a few days gambling, drinking, womanising and of course looking at some fine Vessels, and hopefully after a few days we can find you the perfect boat which can be delivered to Calais at a designated date.

Then being a man of my word, will drive us ALL the way back to London in the MP4-12C, so we can then make arrangments to drive the boat back from Calais over the channel (no need to worry as I am an experienced Seaman )back to St Kats to have a welcome home party and photo opportunity with the boat and a number of fine looking, scantily dressed females to enhance the lines and shape of the boat

I am prepared to do all this for no fee as the opportunity to ensure a fellow PH'er gets the right boat is more than enough to compensate me for being away from the misses for a few days, spending 8 hours driving and having to spend a few days enjoying the delights working hard in Monaco.

How does that sound??

[Simpo Two]

m0ssy said:

My suggestion is this, you pick me up from my house where we then toss a coin as to which one of us tells my misses we are off to Monaco or perhaps Nice to look at some new boats for a few days (she wont mind honest)

Wishing to contribute, I shall then drive us down there in your MP4-12C all the way to the finest five star hotel, yes I am prepared to drive ALL the way we can then spend a few days gambling, drinking, womanising and of course looking at some fine Vessels, and hopefully after a few days we can find you the perfect boat which can be delivered to Calais at a designated date.

Then being a man of my word, will drive us ALL the way back to London in the MP4-12C, so we can then make arrangments to drive the boat back from Calais over the channel (no need to worry as I am an experienced Seaman )back to St Kats to have a welcome home party and photo opportunity with the boat and a number of fine looking, scantily dressed females to enhance the lines and shape of the boat

I am prepared to do all this for no fee as the opportunity to ensure a fellow PH'er gets the right boat is more than enough to compensate me for being away from the misses for a few days, spending 8 hours driving and having to spend a few days enjoying the delights working hard in Monaco.

That seems remarkably similar to one of Motorvator's wheezes...

[m0ssy]

Simpo Two said:

That seems remarkably similar to one of Motorvator's wheezes...

Blimey you are up early Simpo......

st the bed? or just getting some practice in for tomorrow?

[mickrick]

I've said it before, there's no bible on taste! If we all like the same thing, it'd be a boring world.
But I have to say, the first time I saw one of those tied up here in the marina, my first reaction was "WTF!"

Good thread BTW. Made me chuckle

[Simpo Two]

m0ssy said:

or just getting some practice in for tomorrow?

Don't worry, you'll get an extra 0.333 portions of grilled supermarket trolley mate

[toppstuff]

mickrick said:

I've said it before, there's no bible on taste! If we all like the same thing, it'd be a boring world.
But I have to say, the first time I saw one of those tied up here in the marina, my first reaction was "WTF!"

Good thread BTW. Made me chuckle

I am a bit puzzled by this. The SC35 is a bloody good boat, and very successful. I suspect it is the best seller in its class.

It has loads of space. Its quick, easily handled and comfortable, has a good hull, great engine options, good support with plenty of dealers supporting them and it is well priced.

There is nothing from any of the other UK manufacturers that even gets close. A used Fairline Targa maybe, but that would be an old boat.

I cannot think of an equivalent boat for the price that is any better. And with the right colour scheme, it looks great.

If you adopt the perspective of someone having perhaps 200k to spend , I think the SC35 makes perfect sense.

So come on, what would you guys choose instead if it was your money and you wanted something new or nearly new, easy to handle, spacious and fun ?

Maybe the SC35 is the Porsche Panamera of the boating world? Bloody good bit of kit but some people don't like the looks?

Personally, I would choose one in a heartbeat over anything else at the price..

[Lambo FirstBlood]

m0ssy said:

My taste of an alternative may not be your cup of tea, and there is such a wide choice of different boats available.

Its all about what's going to suit your requirements, by the sounds of it helm and cockpit space seems to be a very important factor, so would guess you would only be using it when the weather is glorious and you can fly about the estuary with a few pals drinking fizzy wine and gin? or perhaps sat in the Marina entertaining?

I guess if you were say a keen waterskier, wakeboarder and would only ever go out for this there would be alternatives, or if you were looking on doing the odd 4 or 7 day break perhaps travelling to France/ Holland and wanted to use it as a floating flat to stay on and entertain then there would be other alternatives, have a think what is important to you as there is a type of boat out there to suit everyones requirements.

If you are buying brand new you will not have to compromise on anything, you can and should get the exact boat you want, in the exact colours, exact layout lock stock, but if you buy 2nd hand (like me) you will have to make some compromises imho, but will not lose a 1/3rd of the value in the first 6 months or so.

I don't think the SC35 is that bad, it has a lot of good qualities about it, but when I buy a boat I will make sure it is the right choice of all the boats available to me.

My suggestion is this, you pick me up from my house where we then toss a coin as to which one of us tells my misses we are off to Monaco to look at some new boats for a few days (she wont mind honest)

Wishing to contribute, I shall then drive us down there in your MP4-12C all the way to the finest five star hotel, yes I am prepared to drive ALL the way we can then spend a few days gambling, drinking, womanising and of course looking at some fine Vessels, and hopefully after a few days we can find you the perfect boat which can be delivered to Calais at a designated date.

Then being a man of my word, will drive us ALL the way back to London in the MP4-12C, so we can then make arrangments to drive the boat back from Calais over the channel (no need to worry as I am an experienced Seaman )back to St Kats to have a welcome home party and photo opportunity with the boat and a number of fine looking, scantily dressed females to enhance the lines and shape of the boat

I am prepared to do all this for no fee as the opportunity to ensure a fellow PH'er gets the right boat is more than enough to compensate me for being away from the misses for a few days, spending 8 hours driving and having to spend a few days enjoying the delights working hard in Monaco.

How does that sound??

A very kind offer. Let me cut my teeth on something smaller in British waters first but I'd definitely be up for a trip to Monaco once I'm ready to buy something bigger.

In all seriousness, I want something that I could use in the sun and if the weather wasn't great and flybridges at this size don't have a lot of outside space and seem to look a bit odd. I like the 'convertible' roof of the Sealine and I actually think the boat looks quite nice. I also think the layout with 3 berths in the aft cabin is pretty neat. I haven't really looked at anything else. I know there is a new Princes V39 which I understand also has a convertible roof but its bigger and more money although I don't know how much more. I have E-mailed them. I haven't seen one in the flesh though. Anyone here seen one?

Edited by Lambo FirstBlood on Friday 30th September 19:23

[mickrick]

But have you seen one in the flesh?
If you have and still think it's pretty then fair enough.
Some Guys like ugly women. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so they say.

[Lambo FirstBlood]

mickrick said:

But have you seen one in the flesh?
If you have and still think it's pretty then fair enough.
Some Guys like ugly women. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so they say.

If you mean the Sealine, then yes I've had two fairly extensive looks round the boat in the last couple of weeks. I aim to have a test drive in one next week.

What would you buy?

[mickrick]

I'd buy something older with better build quality.
But I like more classic looking boats, which obviously isn't your cup of tea.
If you've seen one in the flesh and you still like it, the go for it.
You're buying it for you, not anyone else.
My first post was just a comment on my reaction the first time I clapped eyes on one here in Mallorca. There are a couple in the marina here, and every time I see them I think Damn, that's ugly! Just my oppinion.
I have a piece of ste 43 year old sailboat which wouldn't even float right now, and I know folks are puzzeld why I'd consider spending money on it. But then I'm a really odd fellow!
But whatever floats your boat, as they say.
If I where going to buy a motorboat, I'd be looking for a nice old Bertram 33.
Or a rolly Nelson 38 with aft cockpit.

Two very different boats, and very different from the Sealine. The quality of the Dale Nelson is top notch! I've done over 500hrs in one. (I also specced and oversaw the build) But that was a £500,000 boat, so you can imagine the build quality.
http://www.bertram33.com/
http://www.rightboat.com/Dale-Sailing-Co-Nelson-38...

Edited by mickrick on Friday 30th September 19:57

[Hard-Drive]

I'm a rag and stick man. That orange one is bloody awful. But I can almost "get" the second one. In fairness, it's still prettier than that new Bavaria 36...

[mrloudly]

Hard-Drive said:

I'm a rag and stick man. That orange one is bloody awful. But I can almost "get" the second one. In fairness, it's still prettier than that new Bavaria 36...

Agreed, it's disgusting... Maybe more money than sense...

[mickrick]

Brightly coloured hulls seem to be becoming a bit of a fad just lately. I was in Italy recently and I saw a couple of yachts with bright orange, gold, and a bright blue hulls. Seems to be a trend with Dolphin yachts, I think they're called?

[Silent1]

What about a used Gobbi 425, it seems to be mentioned by a few people as an alternative, i personally think it's much more attractive and it does 3 stages of roofless-ness!

[Boatbuoy]

mickrick said:

Brightly coloured hulls seem to be becoming a bit of a fad just lately. I was in Italy recently and I saw a couple of yachts with bright orange, gold, and a bright blue hulls. Seems to be a trend with Dolphin yachts, I think they're called?

Yes, the 'Mochi Dolphin' brand from the Ferretti Group offers some er, interesting pastel colours!

[mickrick]

That's the one.
http://mochicraft-yacht.com/
I've seen a couple in the marine at home, and there where lots in Viareggio when I had to take my Boss's boat there.
Why he wanted his shiny gin palace there I'll never know. What a dump!

[Lambo FirstBlood]

I've got a test drive booked on Thursday.

I've got to say chaps I quite like the way it looks and having looked around, the only boats I really like are are a lot more money. I've been offered an ex-demo Princess V42 which looks very nice but is almost double the money and I'm not sure I can justify the price difference. Anyone got any experience with a V42. Is it too big for a first boat?

To be honest, I think the Sealine looks like it could be the perfect first boat for me.

[mrloudly]

Sealine, despite what many say, are bloody good boats! To be honest, I thought the fit out on my 43 was better than my Fairline 46. Really well thought out
and plenty of storage. I'd buy another tomorrow :-)

[toppstuff]

Lambo FirstBlood said:

To be honest, I think the Sealine looks like it could be the perfect first boat for me.

I think you are spot on. I was with a bunch of 3 chaps last summer hooning around watching Cowes week in a Sealine SC35.

It is a bloody good boat. If I was in your shoes, looking for a first boat to have some fun in with friends and family, it is the obvious choice for the money. You will get support from the factory, it will be modern and new and need nothing fixing, it will fast and easy to handle.

Sealine even have their own sea training school, where they will give you some lessons so that you are safe in the water. They'll also teach you the ropes ( quite literally ) regarding how to park the bloody thing - easily the most stressful part of first-time boat ownership !

http://www.sealine.com/sealine-world/sealine-sea-s...

Wait until the weather turns grim and thoughts turn to Christmas and you'll probably get a very nice deal too.

[mickrick]

Well good luck to you.
I used to work for Sunseeker product support about 9 years ago, and I couldn't believe some peoples idea of quality. I lasted about 5 months before moving on. I got sick and tired of dealing with the same problems over and over, and the monkeys at Poole not interested in simple solutions.
I still can't get my head around how people are suckered into buying these production boats from the glossy coffee table brochures and boat shows, and believing everything the broker with the perfect hair tells them. "We don't sell boats, we sell a lifestyle"

At least you'll be keeping people like me in a job.
You do have good taste in cars though