Boat engines

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Simpo Two

85,862 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Lefty said:
Buggered link.

W-configuration as in the VW w12? Two heads with staggered cylinders?
Works for me...

Don't know about the W, sorry.

susser

270 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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The Isotta Fraschini W18 is a W configuration having 3 heads of 6 cylinders each, nominally 57 litres total. MTB 102 had three of them at one stage. There used to be one on display at the British Military Powerboat Trust Museum at Marchwood. Sadly now shut down and the exhibits scattered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eK69X3H1Oc

Yachtworker

1,251 posts

157 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Just looked like a lot of engine on a relatively small boat!




thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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intresting

the inner props are a different hand to the outer props

Is it meant to be that way or is it a whoopsie

Yachtworker

1,251 posts

157 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Counter rotating its a must as it reduces steering effort, stops the props walking the stern of the boat around.

tr7v8

7,214 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Lefty said:
Didn't the old US Navy PT boats use Packard built Merlin V12's?

or did i imagine that?
Packard engines & V12 but nowt to do with Merlins. Packards were marine engines awhile before the Merlin was on the scene.
http://www.pt-boat.com/packard/packard.html

Dr G

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15,242 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
(talk about fking ridiculous willy waving doing that ^^^)
Certainly sir and how many engines would you like with that? laugh

chuntington101

5,733 posts

238 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
You think ?
1,200hp.

Might just get on a plane






(talk about fking ridiculous willy waving doing that ^^^)
Cant remeber where but i recently saw a pic of a similar bboat with 6 or even 8 350's mounted in the back! it was used by UK drug smugglers to bring things over the contient. THink the UK coast gaurd had to get in a special helicopter to chase it! lol

So yes there IS sometimes a need for it! smile

chuntington101

5,733 posts

238 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Enough ?

That was the one i was thinking of! smile

Chris.

Du1point8

21,614 posts

194 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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chuntington101 said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Enough ?

That was the one i was thinking of! smile

Chris.
If its for drug running the more the better?

So if one is shot out you still have 7 more helping you get away?

andyrooo

18 posts

209 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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splashout1 said:
Have a look and see if you can find anything on Richard Carr's collection all started with lethal.

there was lethal magic which I believe had 3 supercharged chevy engines




lethal menice which was a race cat with a v12 lambo engine


There was also the truck and a cobra rep all painted up in the same colour scheme!
It actually had 3 supercharged ford big blocks in the back. Was bought by Colin Stoneman father of ex Formula 2 Champion Dean Stoneman. I used to work for them at their Formula Renault team and stripped the 3 engines of that boat down for re build enforce I left . Has since been sold on but he still owns the Cobra which is stunning!!


Edited by andyrooo on Monday 30th January 19:44

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Yachtworker said:
Counter rotating its a must as it reduces steering effort, stops the props walking the stern of the boat around.
I did think the prop walk would be a little rude with four of those the same screw.

2 steps forward, one sideways biggrin
I know about counter rotating

however

Inner props are left hand

Outer props are right hand


i would of expected the two port engines to have the same handing and the two starboard to have different handing

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

249 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Yachtworker said:
Counter rotating its a must as it reduces steering effort, stops the props walking the stern of the boat around.
I did think the prop walk would be a little rude with four of those the same screw.

2 steps forward, one sideways biggrin
I know about counter rotating

however

Inner props are left hand

Outer props are right hand


i would of expected the two port engines to have the same handing and the two starboard to have different handing
You been thinking about it for the last four months? wink

I would have expected two inners counter rotating and the two outers counter but opposite the inner next to it.

So rh > lh > rh > lh

Then if you come down on one side or the other you won't get any walk.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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MOTORVATOR said:
You been thinking about it for the last four months? wink

I would have expected two inners counter rotating and the two outers counter but opposite the inner next to it.

So rh > lh > rh > lh

Then if you come down on one side or the other you won't get any walk.
That is what i would expect

Then you can use the two outer engines at slow speed without any walk

So is there a reason for

LH RH RH LH

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

249 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
MOTORVATOR said:
You been thinking about it for the last four months? wink

I would have expected two inners counter rotating and the two outers counter but opposite the inner next to it.

So rh > lh > rh > lh

Then if you come down on one side or the other you won't get any walk.
That is what i would expect

Then you can use the two outer engines at slow speed without any walk

So is there a reason for

LH RH RH LH
Possibly.

I'm not totally familiar with those Verados but it may well be that the counter rotating box option is single gear only or no dog clutch so has to be started in gear.

That would then make sense for close quarters work as you would want at least one pair that you can forward reverse against each other.

Another possibility is that you can't use extensions with a counter rotating box although I find that hard to believe.

The final option is that the vendor had no fking idea about rigging boats.

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

249 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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You've got me looking now.


Here's a couple rigged as we would expect. One with Verados and extensions so obviously it can be done. So it looks like option 3 with that first boat. biggrin






Yachtworker

1,251 posts

157 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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I think that keeping the closest pair in the same rotation reduces the possible cavitation and works better in astern, his port & Stb control is fine and one thing these guys care about more than top speed, is being able to park it easily without bumping the big boat or upsetting the Owners wife etc, if you try band park against a side boarding ladder when the boat is at anchor in the bay of Cannes or off Pampelonne, its a small target in a confused sea.

ciaranthemurph

278 posts

208 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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My last place being re-engined:


TTwiggy

11,570 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
toppstuff said:
Frankly all the engines on this thread are pretty pathetic..

Now THIS is what I call a marine engine....



Pah i've driven bigger engines then that
Imagine doing a compression test...


tank slapper

7,949 posts

285 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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All of these are trying too hard. This is what's in our boat:



13hp from 750cc and it weighs over 200kg, but it only uses a litre of diesel an hour.