Ship stuck on Bramble Bank.
Discussion
KTF said:
Pixel-Snapper said:
Any pictures from inside surfaced yet?
Only the salvors have been on board and they probably have little interest of taking pictures of the internals.They will have issued none...
Jader1973 said:
One of the most impressive docking moves I've seen is the "flying cant" that the Waverley used to do at Anderston Quay in Glasgow.
The river isn't much wider than the length of the ship, and they had to turn her as they arrived back. That involved attaching a rope from the bow windlass along the starboard side of the ship to the quay on the aft port side of the ship, without stopping, then turning hard starboard and using the windlass to pull her round, all the time making sure she didn't get too close to either side of the river.
Bear in mind she is a paddle steamer, and both paddles are linked, so no being able to run one ahead and one astern to help.
I can only find one video of it on youtube - the move starts around the 9 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijPbBheWwI
She now docks further downstream where the river is wider so no need for this move anymore.
Pretty sure they still use ropes to help the turn. The one & only time I've been on it was about 7 or 8 years ago, leaving from & returning to the mooring at the Science Centre. Pretty sure we left forwards & on the return did a rope assisted 3-point turn via the basin next to the Science Centre tower before going onto the dock in reverse.The river isn't much wider than the length of the ship, and they had to turn her as they arrived back. That involved attaching a rope from the bow windlass along the starboard side of the ship to the quay on the aft port side of the ship, without stopping, then turning hard starboard and using the windlass to pull her round, all the time making sure she didn't get too close to either side of the river.
Bear in mind she is a paddle steamer, and both paddles are linked, so no being able to run one ahead and one astern to help.
I can only find one video of it on youtube - the move starts around the 9 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijPbBheWwI
She now docks further downstream where the river is wider so no need for this move anymore.
Latest update from MCA:
"The vessel remains held in position at anchor on the Alpha Anchorage.
Yesterday, the salvors pumped water for 1-2 hours; there was no discharge of oil. They checked the ballast system. They intend rigging another pump in the lower hold to pump into the ship’s tanks as well as overboard.
However, all salvage activity is highly dependent on the weather, which is forecast to be very poor this week, peaking at 1800 on Wednesday to 0600 Thursday.
The port is considering taking the pilot off the scene because the worsening weather will make it harder to relieve them at the end of shift, subject to discussion with the salvors. Vessel Traffic System contact will be maintained and, if necessary, a pilot could be returned to the scene.
Although it is still some way off, plans for the vessel’s return to dock continue, to ensure the discharge of cargo is done safely and access policed/restricted as appropriate.
We will issue a further update tomorrow."
They are holding a media briefing tomorrow at 12:45, Speakers attending include, Hugh Shaw the Secretary of State's Representative for Maritime Salvage and Intervention, a representative from the salvage company; Svizters and the Port Authority.
"The vessel remains held in position at anchor on the Alpha Anchorage.
Yesterday, the salvors pumped water for 1-2 hours; there was no discharge of oil. They checked the ballast system. They intend rigging another pump in the lower hold to pump into the ship’s tanks as well as overboard.
However, all salvage activity is highly dependent on the weather, which is forecast to be very poor this week, peaking at 1800 on Wednesday to 0600 Thursday.
The port is considering taking the pilot off the scene because the worsening weather will make it harder to relieve them at the end of shift, subject to discussion with the salvors. Vessel Traffic System contact will be maintained and, if necessary, a pilot could be returned to the scene.
Although it is still some way off, plans for the vessel’s return to dock continue, to ensure the discharge of cargo is done safely and access policed/restricted as appropriate.
We will issue a further update tomorrow."
They are holding a media briefing tomorrow at 12:45, Speakers attending include, Hugh Shaw the Secretary of State's Representative for Maritime Salvage and Intervention, a representative from the salvage company; Svizters and the Port Authority.
Latest:
The vessel remains held in position at anchor on the Alpha Anchorage.
The weather in the Solent is good and the waters reasonably calm. This weather window will allow two new pumps to be installed and if the weather continues to be favourable, for the divers to inspect the hull.
The salvors will use a dedicated helicopter to transport them to and from the ship. This helicopter is expected to arrive on scene this afternoon.
The tug that was damaged in the contact incident during the bad weather at the weekend is repaired and back on scene.
However, because all salvage activity is highly dependent on the weather the activity on scene is likely to be curtailed tomorrow as the forecast is for strengthening winds reaching a peak between 1800 Wednesday and 0600 Thursday.
The salvors are confident what with the anchor and three tugs connected the strong winds should not present a problem for holding the ship in place and have extensive contingency plans for any unexpected ship movements.
We will issue a further update tomorrow
The vessel remains held in position at anchor on the Alpha Anchorage.
The weather in the Solent is good and the waters reasonably calm. This weather window will allow two new pumps to be installed and if the weather continues to be favourable, for the divers to inspect the hull.
The salvors will use a dedicated helicopter to transport them to and from the ship. This helicopter is expected to arrive on scene this afternoon.
The tug that was damaged in the contact incident during the bad weather at the weekend is repaired and back on scene.
However, because all salvage activity is highly dependent on the weather the activity on scene is likely to be curtailed tomorrow as the forecast is for strengthening winds reaching a peak between 1800 Wednesday and 0600 Thursday.
The salvors are confident what with the anchor and three tugs connected the strong winds should not present a problem for holding the ship in place and have extensive contingency plans for any unexpected ship movements.
We will issue a further update tomorrow
Huntsman said:
V8 Fettler said:
Will it be sunk if it becomes a danger to shipping?
Nope.While its floating there will be ongoing efforts to get it upright and move it.
If it goes Pete Tong and sinks it'll be cut up in situ.
ecsrobin said:
Well the fact that a press conference is being held tomorrow gives me the feeling it's not a fixable situation so they will let it drift onto the beach at stokes bay.
And then have to deal with any pollution, empty the cargo and fuel, then cut her up in situ? Not a chance. Would cost far too much money and the Environment Agency would have a field day.Local radio said that she could be dragged back to Southampton port and righted as early as next week.
The thing is watertight, floating & upright (sort of), so in many ways it's in a good position.
The salvors main job is to get it properly upright, this will involve shifting lots of water around & possibly some cargo but this has to be done in a careful controlled manner so as not to exacerbate the situation.
If they were to simply fill the other side with ballast the thing would most likely roll upright then just keep going the other way.
All this takes power, submersible pumps, miles of hose, which have to be transferred by sea and lots of chaps walking around on a 45 degree slant in a pitch black dead hulk, lest we forget the chap on the Cougar Ace killed doing exactly that.
If it were me I'd be taking my time and doing it properly.
The salvors main job is to get it properly upright, this will involve shifting lots of water around & possibly some cargo but this has to be done in a careful controlled manner so as not to exacerbate the situation.
If they were to simply fill the other side with ballast the thing would most likely roll upright then just keep going the other way.
All this takes power, submersible pumps, miles of hose, which have to be transferred by sea and lots of chaps walking around on a 45 degree slant in a pitch black dead hulk, lest we forget the chap on the Cougar Ace killed doing exactly that.
If it were me I'd be taking my time and doing it properly.
Edited by DJFish on Tuesday 13th January 20:23
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