Black Knight, ancient satellite ?

Black Knight, ancient satellite ?

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Westy Pre-Lit

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Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Has anybody else heard of the 'Black Knight' Satellite ?

Have seen a few images of the thing/things before but not really taken much of an interest in them as I wasn't too sure what it was supposed to.

Here's a short extract from this site about it.

https://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/57



In February 1960 the US detected an unknown object in polar orbit, a feat that neither they or the USSR had been able to accomplish. As if that wasn't enough, it apparently was several sizes larger than anything either country would have been able to get off the ground.

And then, the oddness began. HAM operators began to receive strange coded messages. One person in particular said he managed to decode one of the transmissions, and it corresponded to a star chart. A star chart which would have been plotted from earth 13,000 years ago, and focused on the Epsilon Bostes star system.


This clip isn't in English but the best for pictures I have found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i23sdVEuKs4&fea...




Not sure what to make of it all tbh.

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Friday 23 September 06:50

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Isn't that the one shown on Youtube where they say they captured it, but looks nothing like the actual object ?

This one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK0sRX9-tSY

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Friday 23 September 08:22

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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jmorgan said:
Detected by infallible radar?
You and your dodgy radars....pack it in hehebiggrin

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Is debris cataloged ?


Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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So it should be cataloged then and be able to be identified ?

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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The NASA pictures I linked to earlier say it's SPACE DEBRIS...they don't say what from exactly.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Identification

Mission: STS088 Roll: 724 Frame: 66 Mission ID on the Film or image: STS88
Country or Geographic Name: OCEAN
Features: PAN-SNGLNT., SPACE DEBRIS
Center Point Latitude: Center Point Longitude: (Negative numbers indicate south for latitude and west for longitude)
Stereo: No (Yes indicates there is an adjacent picture of the same area)
ONC Map ID: L-05 JNC Map ID: 51


Am I reading that wrong ? Not sure what half of that stuff means tbh.

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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jmorgan said:
Lobbed up by a rocket. Fell off......

Who really cares
I Do thumbup

jmorgan said:
its a bit of junk.
From what ? Show me the money. biggrin

Westy Pre-Lit

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Friday 23rd September 2011
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Thanks Eric, so it stands to reason that this thing must be cataloged some where then as it looks a fair lump.

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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IforB said:
It's a hoax. A load of old rollocks.

Supposedly any old ham radio operator can detect it? Yeah right.
Many of the links I'm finding from other sites are broken which is rather frustrating tbh. But I believe it has something to do with radio return echo's.

Also it was also reported in the press in 1954, although I'm having problems finding the press release atm due to broken links again grrrrrr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_LaPaz

Here's an extract from the Wiki.


n August 1954, a story broke in the press that Tombaugh and LaPaz, working on behalf of the Army, had found two "natural" satellites only 400 and 600 miles out that had recently come into orbit. LaPaz at first vehemently denied that he was involved in any way, and later denied that anything had been found, as did Tombaugh (see Clyde Tombaugh for details). However, the fact that Tombaugh was indeed engaged in such a search was already public knowledge from previous press releases, as was LaPaz's knowledge of the search from discussions with Tombaugh, even if he wasn't directly involved. (see newspaper photo at right, where LaPaz was shown discussing the search with Tombaugh)


Was able to find this though that gives a time line.

http://goespoes.gsfc.nasa.gov/poes/timeline_1.html


Westy Pre-Lit

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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In 1954 ? These things where reported as early as 1927 IIRC.

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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Tell me about it, I've got to go and do a callout now.wavey

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jmorgan said:
"In February 1960 the US detected an unknown object in Polar orbit. This was detected using the humdinger radar at so and so frequency and x watts power. It appeared to a certain size but we are unable to verify it. It may have been a glitch."
Would a 'glitch' repeat every so many hours at the same rate of frequency ?

I have seen it and will try to find the link later that states the frequency rate.

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Is this thing still in orbit now?

What are its orbital details -

altitude?

inclination?
No idea tbh if it's still there, only really took an interest in it the other day.

The links of the NASA pictures I posted earlier gives the most information on on that sort of stuff that I have seen. Your a better man than me working out what that lot means, if it is of any use. smile

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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Here is some more SPACE DEBRIS, whatever SPACE DEBRIS is meant to be.

http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/SSEOP/sseop.pl?out...

Westy Pre-Lit

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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If it helps I just Googled images and that was the clearest picture of it I found at the time.

The image was taken from this site.

http://thecargoculte.com/archives/1157

Looks like it would have come from this NASA picture. This video shows it being zoomed in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0AXEPYJceE&fea...

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Saturday 24th September 11:30

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jmorgan said:
It is from STS 88. It is linked to in another post I made on here where the commander had to alter orbit for safety. It mentions the bit it had to avoid was from a Delta II launch and I believe it was a Mars probe that eventually went south.
It may be the same bit in the image. Not looked at all the youtube but are they are doing a visual effect zoom on the image in the bit I looked at. It would seem you can apply for a larger version than the web site linked to. Any little green men when it zooms in?
I believe this is the flight which you refer to, is that right ?

http://www.nss.org/resources/library/shuttlevideos...

Taken from here

http://www.nss.org/resources/library/shuttlevideos...

Westy Pre-Lit

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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rofl

Ok, found a video that shows a picture of 2 press cuttings, Starts 10.45 minutes, the guy talks about it for a while then shows the press cuttings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG0VvmHJIyI

Have looked at the site the guy directs you to but can't find them though as I'm not sure what to look for.frownconfused


Link deleted as suspect Trojan.

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Sunday 25th September 22:29

Westy Pre-Lit

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Saturday 24th September 2011
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Found um biggrin

Edited - link deleted.

Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Sunday 25th September 22:26