Just about to order my bacon Sarnie. Do I have....

[Silver993tt]

Shaw Tarse said:

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

It's only like a Full English breakfast served between 3 slices of bread, in fact, as the bread isn't fried & there's no butter it's quite healthy

Yep, no worries:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/79210...

Don't eat one every day, so I'll take the risk.

"Indeed, stomach cancer risk increased by 15 to 38 percent if consumption of processed meats increased by just one ounce a day."

"However, it is wise to stay away from them, anyway."

http://www.healthcastle.com/processed_meat_cancer....

[calibrax]

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

It's only like a Full English breakfast served between 3 slices of bread, in fact, as the bread isn't fried & there's no butter it's quite healthy

Yep, no worries:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/79210...

Don't eat one every day, so I'll take the risk.

"Indeed, stomach cancer risk increased by 15 to 38 percent if consumption of processed meats increased by just one ounce a day."

"However, it is wise to stay away from them, anyway."

http://www.healthcastle.com/processed_meat_cancer....

What absolute bks. Typical scaremongering with blatant misuse of numbers and statistics. The way they put it makes it sound horrendous, but if the risk is 0.0001% in the first place, even a 100% increase would still mean the risk is tiny at 0.0002%. EVERYTHING you consume alters the risk of something...

Here's an article explaining how the media misuse risk for shock headlines...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7937382.stm

Edited by calibrax on Saturday 6th November 19:53

[Pints]

Bread
Butter
Bacon



Why ruin it with extras?

[Silver993tt]

calibrax said:

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

It's only like a Full English breakfast served between 3 slices of bread, in fact, as the bread isn't fried & there's no butter it's quite healthy

Yep, no worries:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/79210...

Don't eat one every day, so I'll take the risk.

"Indeed, stomach cancer risk increased by 15 to 38 percent if consumption of processed meats increased by just one ounce a day."

"However, it is wise to stay away from them, anyway."

http://www.healthcastle.com/processed_meat_cancer....

What absolute bks. Typical scaremongering with blatant misuse of numbers and statistics. The way they put it makes it sound horrendous, but if the risk is 0.0001% in the first place, even a 100% increase would still mean the risk is tiny at 0.0002%. EVERYTHING you consume alters the risk of something...

Here's an article explaining how the media misuse risk for shock headlines...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7937382.stm

Edited by calibrax on Saturday 6th November 19:53

oh really? That's a very credible source because from the same source:
"The researchers recorded 482 incident cases of pancreatic cancer.
It was found that those who ate the most processed meat had a 67% increased risk of developing the disease compared to those with the lowest intake."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4465871.stm

of course the article is qualified with a statement that claims more research is necessary (as usual) but the warning signs are clearly there. I remember the same "scaremongering" about smoking back in the 1970's. Looks where we have come since then on that subject.


Oh well, never mind. Sometimes education is a waste of time

Edited by Silver993tt on Saturday 6th November 20:11

[whoami]

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

Silver993tt said:

Shaw Tarse said:

It's only like a Full English breakfast served between 3 slices of bread, in fact, as the bread isn't fried & there's no butter it's quite healthy

Yep, no worries:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/79210...

Don't eat one every day, so I'll take the risk.

"Indeed, stomach cancer risk increased by 15 to 38 percent if consumption of processed meats increased by just one ounce a day."

"However, it is wise to stay away from them, anyway."

http://www.healthcastle.com/processed_meat_cancer....

Not if you wash it down with a glass of wine.

Oh, wait.....

[Shaw Tarse]

I drink red wine purely for health reasons, it lowers cholesterol.
Guinness provides iron

[tr7v8]

Mustard is for snorker sandwiches, HP sauce for bacon butties.

[Yazza54]

Daddies ... no

Bacon .... no




HP.


Bacon


Sausage


AND egg


On toast.


fking man up

[bazking69]

I'm actually currently into the utter brilliance and simplicity of just a smidge of good butter and nothing else in my bacon sandwich.

[bazking69]

Also, I tend to avoid the nasty vinegary sauces at any greasy spoon establishment. Vile and plain unpleasant.

[calibrax]

Silver993tt said:

oh really? That's a very credible source because from the same source:
"The researchers recorded 482 incident cases of pancreatic cancer.
It was found that those who ate the most processed meat had a 67% increased risk of developing the disease compared to those with the lowest intake."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4465871.stm

of course the article is qualified with a statement that claims more research is necessary (as usual) but the warning signs are clearly there. I remember the same "scaremongering" about smoking back in the 1970's. Looks where we have come since then on that subject.


Oh well, never mind. Sometimes education is a waste of time

Well if you look at my link it was to a magazine article by a columnist, not a news article. Of course the BBC scaremongers like every other media outlet. That's the whole point, they all do it. And it's wrong.

And misrepresenting the facts using statistics which are misleading is not education. If you choose to believe what they are coming out with then that's up to you. Those of use who can see through the scaremongering will continue to enjoy our bacon sarnies safe in the knowledge that any additional risk is so small as to be insignificant.

Oh yes, some advice (media style)... never cross the road. Because that will reduce your risk of being hit by a bus by 100%.

[adycav]

I like reggae reggae sauce with my bacon.



OP, what did you have and how was it?

Unless you are dead from stomach cancer of course.

[Silver993tt]

calibrax said:

Silver993tt said:

oh really? That's a very credible source because from the same source:
"The researchers recorded 482 incident cases of pancreatic cancer.
It was found that those who ate the most processed meat had a 67% increased risk of developing the disease compared to those with the lowest intake."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4465871.stm

of course the article is qualified with a statement that claims more research is necessary (as usual) but the warning signs are clearly there. I remember the same "scaremongering" about smoking back in the 1970's. Looks where we have come since then on that subject.


Oh well, never mind. Sometimes education is a waste of time

Well if you look at my link it was to a magazine article by a columnist, not a news article. Of course the BBC scaremongers like every other media outlet. That's the whole point, they all do it. And it's wrong.

And misrepresenting the facts using statistics which are misleading is not education. If you choose to believe what they are coming out with then that's up to you. Those of use who can see through the scaremongering will continue to enjoy our bacon sarnies safe in the knowledge that any additional risk is so small as to be insignificant.

Oh yes, some advice (media style)... never cross the road. Because that will reduce your risk of being hit by a bus by 100%.

ok, here's a very well respected organisation (that even I donate to), take a read and learn something that'll help you in the long run, you'll need to scroll down to the relevant section:

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/healthyliving/die...

It's free information, costs nothing unlike most things in life. Nothing is black and white but it didn't stop a family friend of ours passing away from bowel cancel at the age of 42. His favourite foods were burgers, sausages (incl salamis etc), bacon, steaks etc.

[calibrax]

Silver993tt said:

It's free information, costs nothing unlike most things in life. Nothing is black and white but it didn't stop a family friend of ours passing away from bowel cancel at the age of 42. His favourite foods were burgers, sausages (incl salamis etc), bacon, steaks etc.

Lots of people like those foods. Very, very few of them die at 42 of bowel cancer. And some people never eat those foods, yet still die of bowel cancer. At all sorts of ages.

My point is, it's all a lottery. Here's a very basic example... if I buy one Lotto ticket every Saturday for the rest of my life, and you buy two, then statistically you have double the chance of winning millions than I have. Correct? Yet that doesn't change the fact that it's incredibly unlikely for either of us to win millions on the lottery even if we lived to be 500!

Even if the media have it right (which they don't), to be perfectly honest I'd rather live a shorter life which includes eating exactly what I want to eat, than live a marginally longer life eating only what people tell me I can eat. I don't smoke, I don't drink (not teetotal but I prefer soft drinks), but only because I don't want to - not because it's 'unhealthy'. Feck em all. I'll live my life and die happy.

[calibrax]

And that Cancer Research site... let's just look at that for a second.

* An unhealthy diet can increase the risk of cancer
* Eating lots of fibre could reduce the risk of bowel cancer
* Fruit and vegetables may reduce the risk of many cancers
* Red and processed meat contain chemicals that could cause bowel cancer
* Eating lots of fish could reduce the risk of bowel cancer
* Eating lots of saturated fat could increase the risk of breast cancer
* Eating lots of salt could increase the risk of stomach cancer
* Eating lots of red or processed meat can increase the risk of cancer

Note the use of the words 'may', 'can' and 'could', instead of words like 'does' and 'will'. They still don't know. That's why they are still doing research.

[whoami]

calibrax said:

Silver993tt said:

It's free information, costs nothing unlike most things in life. Nothing is black and white but it didn't stop a family friend of ours passing away from bowel cancel at the age of 42. His favourite foods were burgers, sausages (incl salamis etc), bacon, steaks etc.

Lots of people like those foods. Very, very few of them die at 42 of bowel cancer. And some people never eat those foods, yet still die of bowel cancer. At all sorts of ages.

My point is, it's all a lottery. Here's a very basic example... if I buy one Lotto ticket every Saturday for the rest of my life, and you buy two, then statistically you have double the chance of winning millions than I have. Correct? Yet that doesn't change the fact that it's incredibly unlikely for either of us to win millions on the lottery even if we lived to be 500!

Even if the media have it right (which they don't), to be perfectly honest I'd rather live a shorter life which includes eating exactly what I want to eat, than live a marginally longer life eating only what people tell me I can eat. I don't smoke, I don't drink (not teetotal but I prefer soft drinks), but only because I don't want to - not because it's 'unhealthy'. Feck em all. I'll live my life and die happy.

Good post but you are wasting your time.

[escargot]

Yup.

[ClintonB]

Ignoring all the crap above & back to important matters, order two sarnies and have one each of ketchup & brown - the only real way to solve the dilemma

[Roger645]

Ketchup with a dash of Encona mixed in for me!

[Elskeggso]

Bacon sarnie time!