Red wine - one for the experts
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Why do some reds make us feel so rough after just a couple of glasses, yet Me and the o/h can drink others all evening and feel fine the next day?
Shared a bottle of Italian red with Mrs JS last night and drank nothing else either and both of us woke at 2.30 am covered in sweat with pounding headaches. Felt so rough neither of us could get back to sleep so as you might have guessed we both look and feel our very best at the moment. We're regular wine drinkers and have had exactly the same occur before - It's almost like you've been poisioned.
Not really sure if it's a price issue either - some really cheap supermarket plonk is OK yet more expensive or supposedly up market wine give us both the same problem
Is there some addative in some wines that might be causing this - I've heard Ethelyne Glycol used to be put in some wine to sweeten it - is that what's causing us to feel so rough? Maybe it's some other ingredient but without any food labelling on bottles it's going to be impossible to find out what it is and how to avoid it.
It's not happening often enough to pin it down to anything but when it does it's nothing like a normal hangover - and I'm an expert on those.
Any suggestions - apart from stoping drinking
Shared a bottle of Italian red with Mrs JS last night and drank nothing else either and both of us woke at 2.30 am covered in sweat with pounding headaches. Felt so rough neither of us could get back to sleep so as you might have guessed we both look and feel our very best at the moment. We're regular wine drinkers and have had exactly the same occur before - It's almost like you've been poisioned.
Not really sure if it's a price issue either - some really cheap supermarket plonk is OK yet more expensive or supposedly up market wine give us both the same problem
Is there some addative in some wines that might be causing this - I've heard Ethelyne Glycol used to be put in some wine to sweeten it - is that what's causing us to feel so rough? Maybe it's some other ingredient but without any food labelling on bottles it's going to be impossible to find out what it is and how to avoid it.
It's not happening often enough to pin it down to anything but when it does it's nothing like a normal hangover - and I'm an expert on those.
Any suggestions - apart from stoping drinking
Wine contains a plethora of natural ingredients. It's possible you are allergic to something that occasionally turns up, I suppose, but far more likely is "circumstances".
Whenever you feel ill after drinking wine try and remember what else you did: Did you eat? Did you have water?
For most people the nastiest hangover is simply dehydration which can be solved with a pint of water before sleep.
In the same vein a lot of people blame Monosodium Glutamate for "hangovers" after Chinese food. It's a myth. Whenever the stuff is tested no-one ever has a problem. The reason for "hangovers" after Chinese food is most likely the accompanying alcohol...etc
Whenever you feel ill after drinking wine try and remember what else you did: Did you eat? Did you have water?
For most people the nastiest hangover is simply dehydration which can be solved with a pint of water before sleep.
In the same vein a lot of people blame Monosodium Glutamate for "hangovers" after Chinese food. It's a myth. Whenever the stuff is tested no-one ever has a problem. The reason for "hangovers" after Chinese food is most likely the accompanying alcohol...etc
Jaguar steve said:
Why do some reds make us feel so rough after just a couple of glasses, yet Me and the o/h can drink others all evening and feel fine the next day?
Shared a bottle of Italian red with Mrs JS last night and drank nothing else either and both of us woke at 2.30 am covered in sweat with pounding headaches. Felt so rough neither of us could get back to sleep so as you might have guessed we both look and feel our very best at the moment. We're regular wine drinkers and have had exactly the same occur before - It's almost like you've been poisioned.
Not really sure if it's a price issue either - some really cheap supermarket plonk is OK yet more expensive or supposedly up market wine give us both the same problem
Is there some addative in some wines that might be causing this - I've heard Ethelyne Glycol used to be put in some wine to sweeten it - is that what's causing us to feel so rough? Maybe it's some other ingredient but without any food labelling on bottles it's going to be impossible to find out what it is and how to avoid it.
It's not happening often enough to pin it down to anything but when it does it's nothing like a normal hangover - and I'm an expert on those.
Any suggestions - apart from stoping drinking
try some organic red wine. it lacks many chemicals . Shared a bottle of Italian red with Mrs JS last night and drank nothing else either and both of us woke at 2.30 am covered in sweat with pounding headaches. Felt so rough neither of us could get back to sleep so as you might have guessed we both look and feel our very best at the moment. We're regular wine drinkers and have had exactly the same occur before - It's almost like you've been poisioned.
Not really sure if it's a price issue either - some really cheap supermarket plonk is OK yet more expensive or supposedly up market wine give us both the same problem
Is there some addative in some wines that might be causing this - I've heard Ethelyne Glycol used to be put in some wine to sweeten it - is that what's causing us to feel so rough? Maybe it's some other ingredient but without any food labelling on bottles it's going to be impossible to find out what it is and how to avoid it.
It's not happening often enough to pin it down to anything but when it does it's nothing like a normal hangover - and I'm an expert on those.
Any suggestions - apart from stoping drinking
, far out!! Tannins is probably the answer - the stuff that makes your mouth feel 'furry' after you've swallowed that particular sip.
Try some of the following, which (mostly) aren't quite as bad on the tannins:-
- Beaujolais (not as crap as it's rep, but not to go with heavy meats or spices)
- Bourgogne/Burgundy (Pinot Noir) - one of my favourite grapes when done well, a little 'insipid' when not.
- Syrah/Shiraz - nice medium-bodied but usually not too bad on the tannins.
- Malbec - chancing it on this one. Love the wine, but it's a big wine with big flavours, and the tannins are variable.
Try some of the following, which (mostly) aren't quite as bad on the tannins:-
- Beaujolais (not as crap as it's rep, but not to go with heavy meats or spices)
- Bourgogne/Burgundy (Pinot Noir) - one of my favourite grapes when done well, a little 'insipid' when not.
- Syrah/Shiraz - nice medium-bodied but usually not too bad on the tannins.
- Malbec - chancing it on this one. Love the wine, but it's a big wine with big flavours, and the tannins are variable.
Don said:
Jaguar steve said:
It's not happening often enough to pin it down to anything but when it does it's nothing like a normal hangover - and I'm an expert on those.
This would suggest that it is something accompanying the wine. Can you think of another causal factor?VTECMatt said:
There is a reason why a part of the wine industry does not want to list what they put in the wine and it's not so others can copy 
Nail on head I recon - even toothpaste has a list of ingredients on the tube and you'd not be eating several glasses of that for pleasure.So - any idea how to find out exactly what you're drinking?
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