Gear WANT thread

[Fantuzzi]

Monty Python said:

Fantuzzi said:

Some very Early Moog?

ARP2500 modular with a couple of wing cabinets.

Ah thanks!

[Fantuzzi]

Gaspode said:

Fantuzzi said:

It's for 8 finger/two handed tapping with distortion, lots of great guitarists use it, especially when playing high volume to prevent excess noise during hammering on 'from nowhere'.

You don't really need it unless you're using 8 finger/two handed tapping. I don't think SRV uses that technique, although I'm not overly familiar with his work.

Just making fun mate, I know why they do it.

Sorry I hope I didn't come across as patronising, I thought you were confused why it was there.




I think I know what cab I would want to pair with my Lionheart head of savage 'want'

Not sure what colour to have the Zilla Fatboy in, perhaps in a dark purple plus zilla will put the same cover on your head if you ask nicely...or pay.

But then the blue of the laney does look supercool.


Fatboy 2x12, with vintage 30s methinks.

[Gaspode]

Fantuzzi said:

Sorry I hope I didn't come across as patronising, I thought you were confused why it was there.




I think I know what cab I would want to pair with my Lionheart head of savage 'want'

Not sure what colour to have the Zilla Fatboy in, perhaps in a dark purple plus zilla will put the same cover on your head if you ask nicely...or pay.

But then the blue of the laney does look supercool.


Fatboy 2x12, with vintage 30s methinks.

But then again there's nothing like a 4 x 12 cab for the genuine punch in the guts sensation, so I reckon you need a Lionheart 412 in blue

[J8 SVG]

Just to add a something a little different - Drums!

Haven't played in a few years but this has always been top of the list:


http://www.andertons.co.uk/shell-packs/pid19722/ci...

My old band mate has just come back from Leeds college of music with a first and wants to make some music.. he needs a drummer.. Think it's time I spent some savings

Cheeky Sabian AAX Cymbal pack to go with it as well:


http://www.andertons.co.uk/cymbal-sets/pid27137/ci...

Now I just have to remember how to play.. I'm sure it's just like riding a bike

Once they are bought this little number jumps to the top of the want list, far too much money for some electronic triggers under some rubber pads but cool none the less


http://www.andertons.co.uk/trigger-pads-heads/pid1...

[Baryonyx]

Well, you need some drum triggers to be as good as Neil Peart! Used sparingly (take heed from Neil) they can be brilliant!

[Fantuzzi]

Gaspode said:

Fantuzzi said:

Sorry I hope I didn't come across as patronising, I thought you were confused why it was there.




I think I know what cab I would want to pair with my Lionheart head of savage 'want'

Not sure what colour to have the Zilla Fatboy in, perhaps in a dark purple plus zilla will put the same cover on your head if you ask nicely...or pay.

But then the blue of the laney does look supercool.


Fatboy 2x12, with vintage 30s methinks.

But then again there's nothing like a 4 x 12 cab for the genuine punch in the guts sensation, so I reckon you need a Lionheart 412 in blue

True. Apparently the zilla 2x12s are rather loud for a 2 speaker unit.

The G12H'S in the laney sound a little sharper, but not as harsh as I thought, now I'm not so sure about the speaekers.

Perhaps a Zilla 4x12, although that might be nearly 700 english pounds once Ive added speakers, whatever they might be...

[scrubchub]

Seriously considering getting one of these as a new gigging amp;

http://www.blackstaramps.com/products/id260/

They seem to be perfect for the what I'm looking for and are very affordable to boot. Had a real good play of one in a guitar shop and the whole True Valve Power thing is quite remarkable. It genuinely responds and even feels like an expensive valve amp. I never really use effects (apart from a wah and an eq pedal), so it would be nice to have a bit of chorus or delay to add to my sound every now and again. If anyone has any real world experience then let me know!

As an aside, did someone actually describe Stevie Ray Vaughan as a 'moderately talented blues basher' a few pages back? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but christ.....

[Gaspode]

scrubchub said:

Seriously considering getting one of these as a new gigging amp;

http://www.blackstaramps.com/products/id260/

They seem to be perfect for the what I'm looking for and are very affordable to boot. Had a real good play of one in a guitar shop and the whole True Valve Power thing is quite remarkable. It genuinely responds and even feels like an expensive valve amp. I never really use effects (apart from a wah and an eq pedal), so it would be nice to have a bit of chorus or delay to add to my sound every now and again. If anyone has any real world experience then let me know!

As an aside, did someone actually describe Stevie Ray Vaughan as a 'moderately talented blues basher' a few pages back? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but christ.....

That amp looks very interesting. A bit OTT for the kind of at-home wobbling I get up to, but for a proper player, it should certainly do the business.

Yes indeed, someone did so describe SRV. I think the poster judges a player by a very different set of criteria to the rest of us.

[Baryonyx]

Gaspode said:

Yes indeed, someone did so describe SRV. I think the poster judges a player by a very different set of criteria to the rest of us.

It wasn't me that said it, but I wouldn't really rate him at all. I could fall asleep listening to him play, he just seems to plod along like so many blues players. No real passion, no fire, little in the way of soul, very basic guitar playing and song writing. Not that I listen to a great deal of blues, because I find the common progressions quite tired and tedious. But if I did wanted to listen to some blues playing, I'd sooner opt for a John Mclaughlin or Frank Gambale tune (of their bluesy output, anyway). Music on a whole new level of sophistication than SRV's stuff.

Of course, since his death he has been deified and there are many, many listeners willing to White Knight on his behalf, so the point that to suggest he was anything less than incredible is akin to killing a sacred cow. Whilst I don't personally rate his playing, he had a tremendous influence on a generation of players including luminaries like Shawn Lane and Eric Johnson.

The most important thing to remember though, and something I always stress, is to ignore what others think of certain players and just listen to what you like, otherwise you are just making an exercise of listening to music.

[Gaspode]

Baryonyx said:

It wasn't me that said it, but I wouldn't really rate him at all. I could fall asleep listening to him play, he just seems to plod along like so many blues players. No real passion, no fire, little in the way of soul, very basic guitar playing and song writing. Not that I listen to a great deal of blues, because I find the common progressions quite tired and tedious. But if I did wanted to listen to some blues playing, I'd sooner opt for a John Mclaughlin or Frank Gambale tune (of their bluesy output, anyway). Music on a whole new level of sophistication than SRV's stuff.

Of course, since his death he has been deified and there are many, many listeners willing to White Knight on his behalf, so the point that to suggest he was anything less than incredible is akin to killing a sacred cow. Whilst I don't personally rate his playing, he had a tremendous influence on a generation of players including luminaries like Shawn Lane and Eric Johnson.

The most important thing to remember though, and something I always stress, is to ignore what others think of certain players and just listen to what you like, otherwise you are just making an exercise of listening to music.

To be perfectly honest, SRV isn't my guitar player of choice either, but to me he embodies the raucous blues spirit - music played for the hell of it, to get people feeling and moving, not as an intellectual exercise in complexity.

His influence has been indeed great, players like Kenny Wayne Shepherd (who as far as I can see is a straight reincarnation), and Andy Timmons can be added to the list. Andy Timmons rates SRV very highly as does Paul Gilbert. Now those guys I admire enormously.

[Tom_C76]

Baryonyx said:

It wasn't me that said it, but I wouldn't really rate him at all. I could fall asleep listening to him play, he just seems to plod along like so many blues players. No real passion, no fire, little in the way of soul, very basic guitar playing and song writing. Not that I listen to a great deal of blues, because I find the common progressions quite tired and tedious. But if I did wanted to listen to some blues playing, I'd sooner opt for a John Mclaughlin or Frank Gambale tune (of their bluesy output, anyway). Music on a whole new level of sophistication than SRV's stuff.

Of course, since his death he has been deified and there are many, many listeners willing to White Knight on his behalf, so the point that to suggest he was anything less than incredible is akin to killing a sacred cow. Whilst I don't personally rate his playing, he had a tremendous influence on a generation of players including luminaries like Shawn Lane and Eric Johnson.

The most important thing to remember though, and something I always stress, is to ignore what others think of certain players and just listen to what you like, otherwise you are just making an exercise of listening to music.

Much of the highly technical guitar playing is surely an exercise in listening though? Vai, Satriani etc can be speed for its own sake rather than feel, though Satch seems to do that less these days. SRV played pure feeling, as do most blues men that are any good. I'd rather see someone with less theoretically backed knowledge play with heart and soul any day. Note I'm not saying this is just an old vs new thing either, Zappa was very capable of disappearing up his own arse on an odd time sig just because he could.

[Fantuzzi]

Gaspode said:

Baryonyx said:

It wasn't me that said it, but I wouldn't really rate him at all. I could fall asleep listening to him play, he just seems to plod along like so many blues players. No real passion, no fire, little in the way of soul, very basic guitar playing and song writing. Not that I listen to a great deal of blues, because I find the common progressions quite tired and tedious. But if I did wanted to listen to some blues playing, I'd sooner opt for a John Mclaughlin or Frank Gambale tune (of their bluesy output, anyway). Music on a whole new level of sophistication than SRV's stuff.

Of course, since his death he has been deified and there are many, many listeners willing to White Knight on his behalf, so the point that to suggest he was anything less than incredible is akin to killing a sacred cow. Whilst I don't personally rate his playing, he had a tremendous influence on a generation of players including luminaries like Shawn Lane and Eric Johnson.

The most important thing to remember though, and something I always stress, is to ignore what others think of certain players and just listen to what you like, otherwise you are just making an exercise of listening to music.

To be perfectly honest, SRV isn't my guitar player of choice either, but to me he embodies the raucous blues spirit - music played for the hell of it, to get people feeling and moving, not as an intellectual exercise in complexity.

His influence has been indeed great, players like Kenny Wayne Shepherd (who as far as I can see is a straight reincarnation), and Andy Timmons can be added to the list. Andy Timmons rates SRV very highly as does Paul Gilbert. Now those guys I admire enormously.

From a bluesly point, I've always preferred Gary Moore for my blues guitar, real soul to his work, wasn't just jamming a 12bar, his notes really screamed with feeling. Of course its subjective, but he really appealed to me, and seemed to have a breadth of ability in his playing that meant he could really write great stuff.

On topic,

Really want one of these
http://www.tcelectronic.com/ditto-looper/

Would make writing so much easier by myself.

Also want a Laney Klipp, but apparently they blow up a lot....

[scrubchub]

Fantuzzi said:

Really want one of these
http://www.tcelectronic.com/ditto-looper/

Would make writing so much easier by myself.

Also want a Laney Klipp, but apparently they blow up a lot....

Looks great. Not sure when I'd use a loop pedal in the 'real world', but I've always thought one would be very handy when I'm teaching, especially for giving demonstrations of different scales and modes.

[Justin Cyder]

They're nothing new, that KT Tunstall record, Black horse & the Cherry tree was done on an Akai Headrush loop pedal. My Hardwire DL-8 delay pedal has a loop function & I can never get it to stay in time very well.

Asking around, this seems a common issue with loop pedals, some are better than others to use but I would certainly try a few out before parting with cash.

[Gaspode]

Tom_C76 said:

Much of the highly technical guitar playing is surely an exercise in listening though? Vai, Satriani etc can be speed for its own sake rather than feel, though Satch seems to do that less these days. SRV played pure feeling, as do most blues men that are any good. I'd rather see someone with less theoretically backed knowledge play with heart and soul any day. Note I'm not saying this is just an old vs new thing either, Zappa was very capable of disappearing up his own arse on an odd time sig just because he could.

Indeed. I spent much of my youth being told to listen to guitarists like Robert Fripp, John McLaughlin, or Steve Howe because they were supposed to be 'better' than the players I liked - Jimmy Page, Rory Gallagher, and Jerry Garcia. They were apparently too sloppy and too bound by the strictures of Blues playing. I thought that was bks back then, and nearly 40 years later I still think so.

On topic: Gear Want. I'm think I might fancy some decent sounding effects: the usual stuff (overdrive, delay, chorus, flange etc). I've tried a few cheaper multi FX boxes (Boss, Korg, Digitech), but I found the sounds quite nasty to my ear. So I gave up and for the past few years it's just been me, the axe and the amp. But if anyone has got any recommendations I'd be glad to hear them.

[Dr Z]

Getting in to recording, I'm currently GASSING for this:



I absolutely love the Audix i5 for recording my guitars (and live). I have a couple of other condensers I use to record/live as well (the AKG C1000S and Røde M3), but would love to have this sexy little beast!

Others in my list to own at some point are:

Røde NT1
AKG C414
AKG D770
Sennheiser MD421
SE Electronics 4400a

[scrubchub]

Gaspode said:

On topic: Gear Want. I'm think I might fancy some decent sounding effects: the usual stuff (overdrive, delay, chorus, flange etc). I've tried a few cheaper multi FX boxes (Boss, Korg, Digitech), but I found the sounds quite nasty to my ear. So I gave up and for the past few years it's just been me, the axe and the amp. But if anyone has got any recommendations I'd be glad to hear them.

I'm a card carrying, flag waving Blackstar fan boy so this is a bit biased, but you should check out their pedals. Their HT Dual is basically an amp in itself and the tone is excellent. Expensive though, you won't get one for less than £100. They do a good delay as well.

And while it's not exactly an effect's pedal, a noise gate is a must, and MXR do an excellent one. Only important if you're playing live though, not really worth it just for noodling at home.

On the cheap and cheerful end of the spectrum, try out some Joyo pedals. They don't get great reviews but they are cheap and in my opinion better than most other things at that end of the spectrum. Especially plasticy tat like the cheap Digitech range. Won't last a gig.

EDIT: just had a look at the Blackstar website and they now do a range of cheaper pedals, around the £50 mark! Will have to try some of those out.

Edited by scrubchub on Tuesday 22 October 14:07

[Fantuzzi]

scrubchub said:

Fantuzzi said:

Really want one of these
http://www.tcelectronic.com/ditto-looper/

Would make writing so much easier by myself.

Also want a Laney Klipp, but apparently they blow up a lot....

Looks great. Not sure when I'd use a loop pedal in the 'real world', but I've always thought one would be very handy when I'm teaching, especially for giving demonstrations of different scales and modes.

Yeah its mainly for home use, for teaching its meant to be great, Guthrie Govan said how he mainly uses his in clinics. But just having the ease of over laying parts, its got a 5 min loop!

Justin Cyder said:

They're nothing new, that KT Tunstall record, Black horse & the Cherry tree was done on an Akai Headrush loop pedal. My Hardwire DL-8 delay pedal has a loop function & I can never get it to stay in time very well.

Asking around, this seems a common issue with loop pedals, some are better than others to use but I would certainly try a few out before parting with cash.

Yeah I've been aware of them for a while, but was surprised by the size and price, and given its unlimited over dubs and 5 minute playback seem rather good for what you are getting.

But as you have said, best to shop around with these things.

[Chimune]

Fantuzzi said:

scrubchub said:

Fantuzzi said:

Really want one of these
http://www.tcelectronic.com/ditto-looper/

Would make writing so much easier by myself.

Also want a Laney Klipp, but apparently they blow up a lot....

Looks great. Not sure when I'd use a loop pedal in the 'real world', but I've always thought one would be very handy when I'm teaching, especially for giving demonstrations of different scales and modes.

Yeah its mainly for home use, for teaching its meant to be great, Guthrie Govan said how he mainly uses his in clinics. But just having the ease of over laying parts, its got a 5 min loop!

Justin Cyder said:

They're nothing new, that KT Tunstall record, Black horse & the Cherry tree was done on an Akai Headrush loop pedal. My Hardwire DL-8 delay pedal has a loop function & I can never get it to stay in time very well.

Asking around, this seems a common issue with loop pedals, some are better than others to use but I would certainly try a few out before parting with cash.

Yeah I've been aware of them for a while, but was surprised by the size and price, and given its unlimited over dubs and 5 minute playback seem rather good for what you are getting.

But as you have said, best to shop around with these things.

A fortuitous mention as my old man said just a week ago: 'go get me a looper boooy' and I was about to get him a Vox lil looper. but the Boss RC3 seems good too. Then I keep reading about Tunstall and her Headrush. Now I don't know what to get !
The main reason I initially had the Vox in mind is that it has a mic in and my dad plays sax. Also he is old and I presumed that doing everything with one pedal is harder than the spread out nature of the Vox.
Anyone tried them ?

[qube_TA]

MitchT said:

I've always wanted one of these, they're very, very rare and incredibly expensive, however that isn't the main reason for the desire. They're the big brother of the 2600, originally intended to be used in universities to teach students about electronics and whatnot rather than as a musical instrument. On paper they're mega but I've never heard an example of one actually being used to so something musical, just FX's and noises, they tend to just sound like an angry wasp trapped in a bottle. The Who fed an organ though the filter input for 'Wont Get Fooled Again' but the synth wasn't actually making a sound there. The rest of the time they just seem to be used as props to look good.

I'd love to get my hands on one and actually play some actual music with it rather than this sort of nonsense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcy5fLcAsQQ