"Modern Classics" 40 minute race series

[andy97]

Yes, many congrats. Neville drove consistently well throughout the year. But just like to point out he didn't "win" MC in 2014, as its a Series and not a Championship he can't win it! As there is no Series to win. But he was the best performing drivér in the Series of individual races over the season!!!

[andy97]

Thanks Dave, I enjoyed it and will miss it but after 6 years on the Committee it's time for someone else to step up to the plate.

I will still be at some of the race meetings though, but not sure yet whether to race my 924S in the new Transaxle Porsche class in Future Classics or a recently acquired M3 in MC.

Edited by andy97 on Tuesday 23 December 08:30

[andy97]

No room on the one day timetable for all of the CSCC series, so something had to give. MC gets the Silvertone GP circuit as a guest series at someone else's meeting instead.

[andy97]

I am sure that I will still be out with CSCC this season but I am currently looking for a 40 min 2 drivér series like MC or FC that only goes to Donington Park lol!

I have acquired a 3 litre E36 M3 so may use that, but it may be too nice for me to race!!! In that case I may do the new "Transaxle Porsche " class in Future Classics in the 924S.

[andy97]

shim said:

andy97 said:

I am sure that I will still be out with CSCC this season but I am currently looking for a 40 min 2 drivér series like MC or FC that only goes to Donington Park lol!

I have acquired a 3 litre E36 M3 so may use that, but it may be too nice for me to race!!! In that case I may do the new "Transaxle Porsche " class in Future Classics in the 924S.

Andy, how is it going in the E36M3......?

The E36 M3 is awesome, it handles well and has a great engine. I love it. But.......I am going to sell it, I'm afraid. It's just too nice for me and I'd be afraid to bang it whilst it is still immaculate. I'm afraid that I couldn't afford to damage it, unlike the 924S. So, if you know someone interested in a really nice M3, ready to race (and with its v5) then let me know!

[andy97]

Can't afford to risk it, I'm afraid.

[andy97]

It would be a Modern Classics Class D car, 2500-3200cc. Or a 750 Roadsports Class B car; very competitive in the latter particularly I'd have thought.

No idea what time it would do around Snetterton, and in any case, the time that I would get out of it would not be as good as the time that a decent driver would get out of it!!

Edited by andy97 on Sunday 22 March 18:22

[andy97]

shim said:

Its a 3.2 Evo E36M3 with a little more power and little less weight

Yours might be but mine is only a 3 litre M3 with standard engine power. Your car will be a Class A car.

[andy97]

woof said:

I don't have a car that can do a lap yet !
Still trying to get it together in time.

I thought you were entered in 750 Roadsports this Saturday, JM?

[andy97]

e36er said:

I got pole last year with a 1:19.5, which was surprising as the car felt terrible.

Raced there today and got the quickest lap of the race - 1:20.1! Once again there was something wrong with the rear of the car, it'd be nice to do a race there with a car that isn't slightly broken.

I got the impression that most people's times were about a second slower than last year, inc me! Maybe the cold and wind slowed slowed us down a bit, and the fact that most of us were a bit race rusty?

[andy97]

Class C was very competitive and I had one of my most enjoyable races to blow the cobwebs off. Great to battle with the hordes of MX5s, MR2s and BMW Compacts

[andy97]

I think that the Broads did. I bought them for mine but haven't raced it (car now for sale). Most of the Bmw racers seem to favour the Kumhos (and maybe it's as simple as the fact that they can use the same tyres in the BMW championship), whilst most of the front 4 Porsche racers seem to favour the Dunlops. I have been told that the Kumhos are marginally better in the dry but the Dunlops are a fair bit better in the wet although not sure how true that is!

[andy97]

BAZZ69 said:

We use the dunlops on our porsche. Good in the dry. Awful in the wet.Bazz

Interesting, Bazz, because EMC Motorsport reckon that the Dunlops are the best of the List 1B tyres in the wet.

[andy97]

bromers2 said:

....and virtually everyone has a spare set of tyres for wet weather so why not use full wets.

I really don't think that's true. Maybe "virtually everybody at the front" but I think that's a long way from the fact throughout the grid.

There is no doubt that full wets are quicker in the wet, and have more grip but it doesn't always follow that they are safer. They should be, perhaps, but that depends on the speed you are going and fully wets may mean that the accident happens at higher speed. Even full wets won't prevent aqua planing in some conditions.

There is a timetable issue with changing to full wets. If you allow them then you have to give people the option to change if the weather iis poor but at ,any CSCC (and other) meetings that would compromise the time table.

List 1b are road legal tyres and therefore, by definition, are deemed to be safe to drive on by the MSA and the Eurocrats so I doubt you will ever convince a club that they are not safe to race on, you just need to adapt your speed to the conditions. That said, the tyre regs for List 1b are about to change and it is likely that the current List 1b will no longer be road legal in the near future and may become track only "List 1C tyres" in due course (so I have been told by a Scrutineer). In their place it is expected that tyre manufacturers will introduce new tyres with improved wet weather performance and they will become the new List 1B. What clubs do with their series tyre regs remains to be seen.

[andy97]

If a race is declared a "wet race" and the series regs allow full race wets, you will have to give people time to change. You don't now.

[andy97]

steeviegeebies said:

andy97 said:

If a race is declared a "wet race" and the series regs allow full race wets, you will have to give people time to change. You don't now.

That doesn't happen in AMOC Intermarque champs, where regs allow free choice of 1b and race wets, but not slicks. It works perfectly and there is no delay to the meeting.

I clearly didn't know that, Steve, but a quick Google shows that many series supplementary regs require that competitors are given the option to change to wet tyres, even if it involves a delay, if the regs allow wet tyres and if the race is formally declared "wet" by the Clerk of the Course.

If wets are allowed on the grounds of safety, then I think it's remiss not to give people time to change if the race is declared wet.

[andy97]

bromers2 said:

Anyone know why there were two post 1999 E46 M3's running in Class A ? (Under the disguise of E36's on the time sheets)

The E46m3 had "grand father rights" to race in MC from the CSCC's previous race series, "Deutsche Marque" where there was no age restrictions.

I'm not on the Committee any more but I would have thought that the E46 should now be shifted in to "New Millenium" and that may happen after a one year grace period.

[andy97]

Richair said:

I'm looking to prep my 944 Turbo to race in Future Classics, ....

Richard

Great cars, and should do well. I may see you later in the season I my lowly 924S.

[andy97]

Rich, all of the 924/944/968 series handle fantastically well and the turbo has the grunt they need. Much underrated. Really wish I had not sold my road car.

See you sometime on track.

[andy97]

Cheburator mk2 said:

andy97 said:

Rich, all of the 924/944/968 series handle fantastically well and the turbo has the grunt they need. Much underrated. Really wish I had not sold my road car.

See you sometime on track.

The turbo has the grunt, but it also has the uncanny ability to blow headgaskets. Don't ask me how I know... Having made 4 places in 3 laps and then getting hot on the heels of the two cars ahead of me I spotted the white smoke coming out of the exhaust... the engine was 6hrs old... Also, I absolutely hate the off-boost characteristics of a 2.5 8v 8:1 compression 1980s tractor technology lump. The only reason I am sticking with the 944T is its eligibility for the Youngtimer in Germany, which eventually should see me racing at the Ring. Give me a big NA bruiser like the RSR-ed 928 any day of the week...

I think you need to speak to Hartech in Bolton (?) or John Mitchell Garages in Bournemouth, I think.