Ultimate Car Control
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luckyp

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254 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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Well,

The black beastie is back from another test.

This time to try and find the limits of adhesion (and talent).

Found both.

Booked yesterday, I thought I'd make the most of the good weather and went to Rob Gravett's Ultimate Car Control course today.

Wow!! You leave with so much more confidence in your car and your own ability. Can't recommend it enough.

Rob has a totally unique, Physics based approach to safe fast driving and although it flys in the face of commonly used techniques, there is a kinda eureka moment, when you suddenly..well,just get it!!

Bye-bye understeer roundabouts, so-long tail happy exits!!

Here:









GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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Sounds like fun, I want a go. Where, when and how much?

luckyp

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254 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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GTWayne said:
Sounds like fun, I want a go. Where, when and how much?


Yes you do. Defo.

Here is the link:
www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=16172

Pretty good value, I thought.



gtr-gaz

5,281 posts

275 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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GTWayne said:
....how much?

Err, don't forget to add on the cost of 4 new tyres though (see other thread)

must admit, sounds fun!

luckyp

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Saturday 21st April 2007
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gtr-gaz said:
GTWayne said:
....how much?

Err, don't forget to add on the cost of 4 new tyres though (see other thread)

must admit, sounds fun!



He-he! Gary, spot spot on!! The Noble and the Vantage (big one) were both seeing the tyres disappear beneath them. Mine were on the way out (and I'll finish them off at Brands on Tuesday).

Wayne, yeah, Rob was taking the course and took the Ultima round the track. I watched - a first (fook they sound good don't they?!) and they was driven.....oh - I'm shite!! But to see him correct roll oversteer at speed on a long fast corner was a joy. Basically my fast is is his 60%.

Sunburnt now.

Luckyp

luckyp

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254 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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Yeah, and Wayne, Rob was really impressed with it; both build and performance/control. He said it is a good car to learn these techniques.




Edited by luckyp on Saturday 21st April 20:32

nickytwohats

2,093 posts

270 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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It's true Robb said it was "the best built ultima and the best looking he'd ever seen"..

Sounds like a challenge/invitation to me.

(PS I liked it too)

N2H

gtr-tt

442 posts

287 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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What's this thread worth without a video footage of the event??

Sounds like great fun.

GTWayne

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246 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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nickytwohats said:
It's true Robb said it was "the best built ultima and the best looking he'd ever seen"..

Sounds like a challenge/invitation to me.

(PS I liked it too)

N2H


Not trying to take anything away from p as we all know that it is indeed a very good example but I wonder just how many Ultimi Rob has had privy to over the years scratchchin
He hasn't seen the GTW yet either biglaugh

luckyp

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Sunday 22nd April 2007
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GTWayne said:
...He hasn't seen the GTW yet either biglaugh


And neither have we!!!

(ouch! that must sting)

Hey Nick, nice to meet you. Your car sounded great with that trick exhaust.

Oh and Wayne, Rob also said that it looked like a true supercar in black;he thought that in all the other colours they just looked like kit cars!! Hell, what does he know?

luckyp

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Sunday 22nd April 2007
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gtr-tt said:
What's this thread worth without a video footage of the event??

Sounds like great fun.


Arrr Mikael, I took the gear with me too, damn. Was gonna show his feet dancin' on the pedals.

He got in the car, and after one lap of hairy powerslides and one 2nd to 5th change, it was like he had been drivin' it for a season. Amazing to see your car being driven from the outside, and the sound!! Yeaoww!!

I'll get some vid next week of the Brands Trackday.

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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^ I always liked that bloke and it is good to know that he has taste as well as an idea on how to drive a car rather quickly hehe

What did you think of the Noble performance wise?

nickytwohats

2,093 posts

270 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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GO on Pete - tell him how I did..

PS - Have a great day tomorrow!

Edited by nickytwohats on Monday 23 April 20:05

luckyp

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Monday 23rd April 2007
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nickytwohats said:
GO on Pete - tell him how I did..

PS - Have a great day tomorrow!

Edited by nickytwohats on Monday 23 April 20:05


Already have Nick, off-line!! But for everybody else's benefit, Mr Twohats (in his Noble) was keeping up with Rob in my Ultima.......for a bit. But I have to say Nick, when he got a clear patch ahead, he didn't half fly!!

A good day was had.

Tomorrow, ahh, yes...sh1tting myself!! But do I use Rob's technique into Paddock and Druids??


GTWayne

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246 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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thumbup Good luck p and try not to blow it up 'eh

nickytwohats

2,093 posts

270 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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luckyp said:
nickytwohats said:
GO on Pete - tell him how I did..

PS - Have a great day tomorrow!

Edited by nickytwohats on Monday 23 April 20:05


Already have Nick, off-line!! But for everybody else's benefit, Mr Twohats (in his Noble) was keeping up with Rob in my Ultima.......for a bit. But I have to say Nick, when he got a clear patch ahead, he didn't half fly!!

A good day was had.

Tomorrow, ahh, yes...sh1tting myself!! But do I use Rob's technique into Paddock and Druids??




Thanks Pete - he did indeed open up a gap (hardly surprising) but I was very pleased that I hung on as long as I did - I think you need a new set of rears BTW also the layout was a little short to let the Ultima get into it's stride!

Yes to paddock & druids - that's pretty much the corner combo we were doing..Go for it!



Edited by nickytwohats on Tuesday 24th April 08:55

luckyp

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Tuesday 24th April 2007
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nickytwohats said:
luckyp said:
nickytwohats said:
GO on Pete - tell him how I did..

PS - Have a great day tomorrow!

Edited by nickytwohats on Monday 23 April 20:05


Already have Nick, off-line!! But for everybody else's benefit, Mr Twohats (in his Noble) was keeping up with Rob in my Ultima.......for a bit. But I have to say Nick, when he got a clear patch ahead, he didn't half fly!!

A good day was had.

Tomorrow, ahh, yes...sh1tting myself!! But do I use Rob's technique into Paddock and Druids??




Thanks Pete - he did indeed open up a gap (hardly surprising) but I was very pleased that I hung on as long as I did - I think you need a new set of rears BTW also the layout was a little short to let the Ultima get into it's stride!

Yes to paddock & druids - that's pretty much the corner combo we were doing..Go for it!



Edited by nickytwohats on Tuesday 24th April 08:55


Hi Nick - well I'm still alive!

I'll explain all in another thread; but indeed, the technique works. I tried my old against Rob's and with hid the car just dug in and pulled itself around the corners.

The tyres are officially shot!


Pete

nickytwohats

2,093 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Off to find that thread....