FORD stalks pin out

FORD stalks pin out

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spatz

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Saturday 14th February 2009
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ok folks, did some research during this snowy saturday and have documented the FORD stalks with number 95AG11K665.

here some pics of the stalks





First of all I have to say this stalk has a lot to offer and will clean up the Ultima dash board from many switches.
Unfortunately you will have to open the unit and remove one black cable and cut it that is soldered between 54 and 53c.



It goes into the wiper lever and opens the connection to 53c when you press the tip button.
I would also recommed to desolder the horn cables if you do not intend to use them.
The drawings have 2 faults or are not really for the stalk that I have here, so be careful when starting to work on this.

Here my setup

WIPER

I have changed the way the wiper is working. top position of 4 is now OFF. One down is for the delayed wiping
that I intend to use with a VW NR.99 programmable relay. Next down is speed 1 last one down is for speed 2

WASHER - Pull wiper lever

I use the rear washer for the washer as the original washer button is for good use as a horn button if my
steering wheel does not have one, or I am going to use a quick release and do not want to fiddle with the cables.

INDICATOR

I intend to use the original Ford indication with the relay that came with my used unit - if missing the ford
part is 93AG13350. It save a lot of wiring as you can connect your indicators directly to the L and R outputs.
The stalk has integrated hazard switch, again one switch less on the dash.

LIGHTS - Turn rotating buttons on Indicator lever

This was a tricky one. First of all there is no real matching description in the escort files and in addition they
made this one a little more difficult to understand. The LIGHTS are working that you have the sidelights independent of
the lo and hi beam. The Lo beam is actually the feed for the intermittent hi beam (works also with lo beam lights off)
whereas the constant hi beam is only working when the lo beam is turned on.
This however makes little sense and I still have not understood why this is wired this way ?
see schematic here for full integration in the Ultima loom, notice you will need one additional standard relay !


http://www.spatz-tech.com/ebay/Lights_ford.pdf


SPARE- PUSH WIPER LEVER back

There is one spare the rear wiper that may be used for the fog light, but in my case it would mean that if use the washer
the fog light will be off for that time.

HORN - Push tip button on wiper lever

This is my horn setup, in case I have no other choice

Here you can download the pdf with the relating numbers to the above description

http://www.spatz-tech.com/ebay/ford_stalk.pdf

Wiring diagramm of VW NR.99 relay Ford stalks with Ultima wiper motor

http://www.spatz-tech.com/ebay/NR99.pdf

Wiring diagramm for LED indicators using FORD stalk integrated indicator and hazard control

http://www.spatz-tech.com/ebay/indicators_ford.pdf


ATTENTION !!!

I turns out that the washer function is not working as planned. The reason for this is
how the stalk is internally connected. So in Wiper OFF mode once you have the washer motor hooked up
you will feed 12V through the washer motor to the I (intervall input of the VW 099 relay) contact, starting
the wiper even if the lever is in off mode. I have been thinking about many ways to get that working but
I ended up in just adding one more small tactile button to my system that directly feeds 12V to the washer
motor and the T input of the 099 relay. This setup will pump as much water on the screen you want and run the wiper
3 times automatically.

sorry for this but I was unable to detect this before I actually had all wired together.

Edited by spatz on Sunday 4th October 09:19


Edited by spatz on Sunday 14th February 11:01

spatz

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Sunday 15th February 2009
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have edited the original post so it is all together -BUMP

spatz

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Sunday 15th February 2009
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need some help, it is a language problem, what are actually the SIDE LIGHTS, DRIVE LIGHTS, Lo BEAM and HI BEAM.
I thought lo beam is the driving light, why have another driving light , especially since they are wired in parallel
in the loom ?

thanks

spatz

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Monday 16th February 2009
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need some help again, the wiper motor on the ultima loom seems to have 5 connections, 1 supply, 1 ground,and then 53, 53b and 53e. thought the motor has only 2 speeds ? can somebody shine some light on how the wiper motor is working ?

spatz

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Sunday 22nd February 2009
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i am working on it, once i am finished there will be a detailed description of how to do it, it will be then a simple matter of connecting. today i have explored the mysteries of the Vw 99 programmable wiper intervall relay and i can already confirm that it will work in an ultima setup

spatz

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Thursday 7th May 2009
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stay tuned only a couple of weeks, I will put the loom now soon and then test all the electrics and can then finalize the
drawing for the loom integration. Got some connectors and covers from the scrap yard, the connectors are slim and much better
than soldering especially if you have to replace a faulty stalk.

spatz

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Thursday 14th May 2009
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original post updated with wiring diagramm of ford stalks with the wiper, more to come !

spatz

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Saturday 16th May 2009
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original post updated with indicator wiring for FORD stalk

spatz

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Tuesday 19th May 2009
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original post updated with Lights integration in the ford stalk

spatz

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Thursday 28th May 2009
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i am using 32 cm OMP superquadro and they do stick out behind the wheel, but this is not a big deal, they
are not centered either but other than that it goes in greatly, have not found the time to make pics but will do soon.
The steering column needs to be extended by 40 mm though - cut at the thickest place and insert 40 mm of solid material
right where the plate attaches to the crush zone

Edited by spatz on Tuesday 13th October 12:11

spatz

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Thursday 30th July 2009
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ok today I have hooked up the electric system and I can confirm that everything I have designed in theory
is working in reality. The Stalk is doing exactly what I wanted him to do and the wiper control is as expected.

spatz

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Wednesday 12th August 2009
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yes

spatz

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Sunday 14th February 2010
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the Nr.99 link has been fixed