Police Interceptors tonight
Discussion
R0G said:
At the speed it was going before having to brake for numpty Volvo it would have easily made it in front
I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
so have millions of drivers every year, so what?I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
IMHO he would not have made it cleanly (ie, without seriously compromising the volvo's path and safety margins)
Look, I am not sticking up for the Volvo driver, he is not in the right for crossing the line, but neither is PC plod for trying to pass from too far back.
R0G said:
At the speed it was going before having to brake for numpty Volvo it would have easily made it in front
I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
The difference *in this case* is the copper did cause a conflict.I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
WinstonWolf said:
R0G said:
At the speed it was going before having to brake for numpty Volvo it would have easily made it in front
I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
The difference *in this case* is the copper did cause a conflict.I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
Just watched the vid. The cop WAS the bully. The slip road was converging to single lane, so the Volvo guy could see the potential problem. So should the bloody copper. I'd demand to see the vid shown in court. And the overtake at the end of the slip road is becoming to common these days. I'm inclined to edge these guys towards the centre barrier if the road is clear. And before all 'goodies' comment, I know that's not good driving. So don't bother to comment.
Edited by robinessex on Wednesday 26th February 14:50
R0G said:
At the speed it was going before having to brake for numpty Volvo it would have easily made it in front
I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
There is no way he would have "easily" made it in front prior to the lanes merging - best case for the copper he would have only just made it in front, and bearing in mind the lack of blues and twos and the fact he was not heading to an emergency, that was an unacceptable risk to take. imo looking at the speed differential and how soon the lanes merged, he would have still been alongside and hence is then gambling on an empty carriageway for him to move straight to lane 2, or would have forced the Volvo to take avoiding action.I have been in the cop place many many times and never caused a conflict so perhaps its only clear to those that have experienced this
I am very much against people sitting in the outside lane of a slip road blocking faster accelerating traffic from coming through, but in the Volvo's situation with him seeing his safe entry to the dual carriageway about to be compromised by what looked to be a civilian vehicle, I would have done the exact same thing (minus the coffee beans).
Airing on the side of caution, or maybe even playing devils advocate...
Isn't the volvo driver in the wrong for moving over and impeding the bmw? If you see something hurtling up behind you, and in your opinion 'driving like an idiot', who in their reasonable sound mind thinks: "i'm gonna pull out in front of that, then call him a w
ker".
I don't think there's any argument about giving someone the wker sign. You just don't know who youre messing with. People have been murdered in road rage incidents before...
Also, there's no arrows in the BMW lane, telling him to get over before the merge:
I understand this isnt an exact replica of the road, but it's near enough.
On the flip side, highway code #134 states merge in turn is fine, but not recommended at high speed.
Everyone is bashing the cop, but for me it's a 50/50.
The legal exemption for speed exists, but in an unmarked car, it's obviously safer to have some blues running. The volvo driver aggravated the sitatuion with his actions though.
If the volvo driver didnt pull the wker sign, would he have been stopped? Even if he was stopped and said (regardless what he believes was right or not): "Sorry officer I saw you behind me but miscalculated the speed you were travelling at as i started the merge", would he have been sent on his way a minute or so later? Probably.
For me, it's not the move, but the gesture that probably sent things the way they did.
I couldnt be arsed watching anymore because the video was playing up, so dont know the result of what the cop did to the driver.
Isn't the volvo driver in the wrong for moving over and impeding the bmw? If you see something hurtling up behind you, and in your opinion 'driving like an idiot', who in their reasonable sound mind thinks: "i'm gonna pull out in front of that, then call him a w
ker".I don't think there's any argument about giving someone the w
ker sign. You just don't know who youre messing with. People have been murdered in road rage incidents before...Also, there's no arrows in the BMW lane, telling him to get over before the merge:
I understand this isnt an exact replica of the road, but it's near enough.
On the flip side, highway code #134 states merge in turn is fine, but not recommended at high speed.
Everyone is bashing the cop, but for me it's a 50/50.
The legal exemption for speed exists, but in an unmarked car, it's obviously safer to have some blues running. The volvo driver aggravated the sitatuion with his actions though.
If the volvo driver didnt pull the w
ker sign, would he have been stopped? Even if he was stopped and said (regardless what he believes was right or not): "Sorry officer I saw you behind me but miscalculated the speed you were travelling at as i started the merge", would he have been sent on his way a minute or so later? Probably.For me, it's not the move, but the gesture that probably sent things the way they did.
I couldnt be arsed watching anymore because the video was playing up, so dont know the result of what the cop did to the driver.
Edited by fjord on Wednesday 26th February 15:24
The copper was fine, he was in the 2nd lane, increasing speed ready to merge. There were clearly two lanes.
The Volvo cuts him up where he can't move over due to the curb.
The only thing the plod should have done is predicted the outcome, adjusted his speed to avoid.
He lost his head and shouldn't have however
The Volvo cuts him up where he can't move over due to the curb.
The only thing the plod should have done is predicted the outcome, adjusted his speed to avoid.
He lost his head and shouldn't have however
carinaman said:
Scuffers said:
R0G said:
4 week course is for the basic response and not traffic
must be pretty poor if in 4 weeks they can't teach anticipation skills....Do you know any you can ask?
BullyB said:
The copper was fine, he was in the 2nd lane, increasing speed ready to merge. There were clearly two lanes.
The Volvo cuts him up where he can't move over due to the curb.
The only thing the plod should have done is predicted the outcome, adjusted his speed to avoid.
He lost his head and shouldn't have however
Problem with the slip road in question, there wasn't really any merging time. Often the issue with 2 laned slips. The outside lane is just straight onto the a road. could easily have been a lorry on the A road meaning the copper would have been fThe Volvo cuts him up where he can't move over due to the curb.
The only thing the plod should have done is predicted the outcome, adjusted his speed to avoid.
He lost his head and shouldn't have however
ked had the volvo kept left as there was no way he was SAFELY going to make that over take before the merge with the main carriageway.Stupid from the copper imo. Especially trying to justify how the bus he was on his way to required excessive speed but without the blues, yet the 5 minutes or more wasted by the roadside didn't matter.
If you look on their website there's an Email address for complaints and media office, their media office has three named people but they all use the same media@lincspolice email address.
A link to this thread and the comments left on the Channel 5 On Demand/iplayer equivalent may be useful.
'You're a big chap' may make for a fun PH Tee Shirt design?
'Speed Matters - Especially when you've done a 4 week course and you're in a rush'
A link to this thread and the comments left on the Channel 5 On Demand/iplayer equivalent may be useful.
'You're a big chap' may make for a fun PH Tee Shirt design?
'Speed Matters - Especially when you've done a 4 week course and you're in a rush'
Edited by carinaman on Thursday 27th February 15:49
Regardless of the Policeman's driving the Volvo driver deliberately moved to block him- I don't believe it was poor observation. Enough IMO to make him at fault.
s like that cause accidents with their 'I'm a road vigilante' attitude. As evidenced by his reaction to the policeman. I particularly like his parting comment 'you're a big chap'. 
The policeman of course needs to reconsider his attitude to other road users, their level of ability and err on the side of caution. Next time it really could be some clueless numpty.
s like that cause accidents with their 'I'm a road vigilante' attitude. As evidenced by his reaction to the policeman. I particularly like his parting comment 'you're a big chap'. The policeman of course needs to reconsider his attitude to other road users, their level of ability and err on the side of caution. Next time it really could be some clueless numpty.
Motorrad said:
The policeman of course needs to reconsider his attitude to other road users, their level of ability and err on the side of caution. Next time it really could be some clueless numpty.
Perhaps successfully passing the attitude test isn't a prerequisite for attending the four week driving course?
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