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Strange how the only person they could find who had actually caused an accident through inappropriate speed was the Asian in the Range Rover. Seemed to me that everyone else was fleeing from the cops because of a murder/shooting/robbery/drink or drug driving (delete as appropriate).
What an utter load of cockwombling tosh that programme was.
What an utter load of cockwombling tosh that programme was.
Hmm.. For some reason this little girl has gotten to me.
I'm not sure why, but she really has and i wondered about how i would have dealt with that situation, and the decision to keep her alive.
Only a half hour before the program i was out on the bike doing silly, silly speeds. OK not in a 30 but still.
She's really playing on my mind, i know it happens all the time, and i know it will happen again. But for some reason i can't get her face out of my mind.
So very sad. I think about if she will ever have the capability to ask herself why they kept her alive in the first place, and the frustration of not being able to ask it aloud.
The program i agree was utter nonsense, but that little girl was as real as it gets.
when it finished i just picked my 2 year old daughter up and kissed her.
Bizarre.
I'm not sure why, but she really has and i wondered about how i would have dealt with that situation, and the decision to keep her alive.
Only a half hour before the program i was out on the bike doing silly, silly speeds. OK not in a 30 but still.
She's really playing on my mind, i know it happens all the time, and i know it will happen again. But for some reason i can't get her face out of my mind.
So very sad. I think about if she will ever have the capability to ask herself why they kept her alive in the first place, and the frustration of not being able to ask it aloud.
The program i agree was utter nonsense, but that little girl was as real as it gets.
when it finished i just picked my 2 year old daughter up and kissed her.
Bizarre.
Very sad - that little girl. What kind of life is that for her?. Tears in my eyes too.
Now - why no mention of the f
king idiot in the Volvo who pulled out and caused it in the first place? Notwithstanding the ridiculous speed of the vehicle that went head-on into the family's, surely a fair amount of blame should rest on the shoulders of the Volvo driver? Given the straight stretch of road, should not the Volvo driver have been able to see that there was a fast-approaching projectile? I have seen so many potentially similar incidents over the years with idiots pulling out of junctions without checking properly for approaching vehicles it makes me seethe.
Now - why no mention of the f
king idiot in the Volvo who pulled out and caused it in the first place? Notwithstanding the ridiculous speed of the vehicle that went head-on into the family's, surely a fair amount of blame should rest on the shoulders of the Volvo driver? Given the straight stretch of road, should not the Volvo driver have been able to see that there was a fast-approaching projectile? I have seen so many potentially similar incidents over the years with idiots pulling out of junctions without checking properly for approaching vehicles it makes me seethe.The RR guy was not asian or indian IIRC - he was Greek.
I wish the presenter had gone back into the corsa and got him and the cop to do a brake test comparing 40 and 48.
Then 30 and 38.
Then 20 and 28
Then 10 and 18
Then parked and 8mph.
And then asked the copper if it would infact be safer if all people just didn't drive?
What a patronising load of misinformed sucking up to the government load of crap.
On another note though the story about the little girl was very harrowing and genuinely reminded me that 30 zones round residential areas/schools are there for a very good reason. Very brave parents there, their daily life must be a hell of a struggle.
I wish the presenter had gone back into the corsa and got him and the cop to do a brake test comparing 40 and 48.
Then 30 and 38.
Then 20 and 28
Then 10 and 18
Then parked and 8mph.
And then asked the copper if it would infact be safer if all people just didn't drive?
What a patronising load of misinformed sucking up to the government load of crap.
On another note though the story about the little girl was very harrowing and genuinely reminded me that 30 zones round residential areas/schools are there for a very good reason. Very brave parents there, their daily life must be a hell of a struggle.
I wonder if the guy who caused the accident helped/helps pay for any of the care? Or if they contributed towards their new, bigger house?
According to the papers, his Dad is worth around £170 million, so I'm sure he could have agreed to spend a bit of his inheritance to help them out.
Just a thought.
According to the papers, his Dad is worth around £170 million, so I'm sure he could have agreed to spend a bit of his inheritance to help them out.
Just a thought.
10JH said:
I wonder if the guy who caused the accident helped/helps pay for any of the care? Or if they contributed towards their new, bigger house?
According to the papers, his Dad is worth around £170 million, so I'm sure he could have agreed to spend a bit of his inheritance to help them out.
Just a thought.
I thought thats what insurance was for?According to the papers, his Dad is worth around £170 million, so I'm sure he could have agreed to spend a bit of his inheritance to help them out.
Just a thought.
10JH said:
I wonder if the guy who caused the accident helped/helps pay for any of the care? Or if they contributed towards their new, bigger house?
According to the papers, his Dad is worth around £170 million, so I'm sure he could have agreed to spend a bit of his inheritance to help them out.
Just a thought.
I'm with you on that. I'd hope they werent struggling to rent that second house given the wealth that family has. On the flip side, why should his family pay for his mistakes? I would, but I know many who would use that argument.According to the papers, his Dad is worth around £170 million, so I'm sure he could have agreed to spend a bit of his inheritance to help them out.
Just a thought.
OK, I'm pretty sure the insurance / compensation claim would cover care for life and if that included 24 hour nursing and second house if needed then it would be accounted for.
For a family worth £170 million their living room was dire.
and ... I missed Undercover Boss AGAIN!!??!?! cr*p!
Highlight for me was "look at this driver doing a suicidal 122mph" and I thought to myself "someone should tell the Germans on the Autobahns about this critical figure."
For a family worth £170 million their living room was dire.
and ... I missed Undercover Boss AGAIN!!??!?! cr*p!
Highlight for me was "look at this driver doing a suicidal 122mph" and I thought to myself "someone should tell the Germans on the Autobahns about this critical figure."
Eviltad said:
OK, I'm pretty sure the insurance / compensation claim would cover care for life and if that included 24 hour nursing and second house if needed then it would be accounted for.
For a family worth £170 million their living room was dire.
and ... I missed Undercover Boss AGAIN!!??!?! cr*p!
Highlight for me was "look at this driver doing a suicidal 122mph" and I thought to myself "someone should tell the Germans on the Autobahns about this critical figure."
The BiB who pulled over Saxo driver for 85mph made out he was leaving a wake of destruction behind him and killing innocent kids for it.For a family worth £170 million their living room was dire.
and ... I missed Undercover Boss AGAIN!!??!?! cr*p!
Highlight for me was "look at this driver doing a suicidal 122mph" and I thought to myself "someone should tell the Germans on the Autobahns about this critical figure."
Petemate said:
Very sad - that little girl. What kind of life is that for her?. Tears in my eyes too.
Now - why no mention of the fking idiot in the Volvo who pulled out and caused it in the first place? Notwithstanding the ridiculous speed of the vehicle that went head-on into the family's, surely a fair amount of blame should rest on the shoulders of the Volvo driver? Given the straight stretch of road, should not the Volvo driver have been able to see that there was a fast-approaching projectile? I have seen so many potentially similar incidents over the years with idiots pulling out of junctions without checking properly for approaching vehicles it makes me seethe.
On what facts do you base that opinion? We don't know the distance from the left hand bend to the junction. Given the RR's speed was a minimum of 71mph it is quite possible it wasn't even in sight when the Volvo driver exited the junction.Now - why no mention of the f
king idiot in the Volvo who pulled out and caused it in the first place? Notwithstanding the ridiculous speed of the vehicle that went head-on into the family's, surely a fair amount of blame should rest on the shoulders of the Volvo driver? Given the straight stretch of road, should not the Volvo driver have been able to see that there was a fast-approaching projectile? I have seen so many potentially similar incidents over the years with idiots pulling out of junctions without checking properly for approaching vehicles it makes me seethe.The RR's speed was major contributor. He was going too fast to be able to stop when an obstruction appeared. What exacerbated the situation was the driver's youth (19 IIRC) and inexperience. He admitted it in the broadcast interview. Typical spoilt kid with rich parents is my guess. He's had a wake up/grow up call at the expense of poor little Cerys.
With hindsight he might have been better rear ending the Volvo as the speed differential at the point of impact would have been less with both vehicles going in the same direction. Of course that could have punted the Volvo into the oncoming vehicle. We will never know.
Back to the programme it was typical hyped up peddling of a message using biased and distorted examples.
Nobody in their right mind can compare 70+ in a 30 limit in a residential area with 155 on an almost deserted motorway. Both are more than double the limit but it is not just the raw numbers. The conditions are totally different. The motorway is designed to acomodate high speed compared to an ordinary road, although whether 155 is advisable is another debate. It might be OK in Germany but not here with our lamentably poor overall driving standards. Also, I suggest that high 3 figure numbers are more likely to be in the hours of darkness when traffic will be very sparse. If it was an unlit stretch it would be risky with only headlights to illuminate the road.
The message should be about the inappropriate use of speed, not speed in and of itself. In fact speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop which tends to do that.
What came across to me was the cockiness and sense of invincibility of the four drivers particularly the
with the Aston. I will bet none of them have had high performance training and have no clue what to do if it all goes pear shaped. I cannot stand that program. It was bad enough when that hypocritical old bd Alastair Stewart presented it, wagging his finger on the dangers of drink driving before his second conviction for just that offence got him confined to the studio, but that Gethin Jones is just as bad. Isn't he the one who, on another show, had a couple of vodkas then staggered around pretending to be drunk to highlight the dangers of drink driving? This episode of course he skidded through a bunch of tape and pretended that it was the extra 8mph that caused it rather than the fact he barely pressed the brake pedal. Last episode was a cracker, when the chav couldn't control the skid car and hit the inflatable car. Gitfaced Jones slowly turned to the camera with a look of abject horror, as if he'd just seen an entire family slaughtered and their bodyparts scattered across the road.
This episode was just as bad. Why, for instance, were 90% of the clips outtakes from police chases, and the remaining 10% examples of people not paying attention or falling asleep at the wheel? What has a police chase or falling asleep got to do with speeding? If speeding causes so many accidents why on earth couldn't they find one single piece of video evidence to support that? Not to mention that every single clip had been shown before (don't get me started on the way the BBC make new shows from recycled material and pads out what's left with empty time-fillers - "coming up..." "We've just seen..." etc. etc.) fking lentil eating stbags.
And the face-to-face thing made me laugh. Is anyone on the planet so retarded that they've never considered that when two cars crash, those cars may become damaged, and that the people inside are sometimes injured?
I don't speed much anymore, but fk me after watching that I want to fk off down the highstreet at 110mph shouting "fk THE BBC!"
d Alastair Stewart presented it, wagging his finger on the dangers of drink driving before his second conviction for just that offence got him confined to the studio, but that Gethin Jones is just as bad. Isn't he the one who, on another show, had a couple of vodkas then staggered around pretending to be drunk to highlight the dangers of drink driving? This episode of course he skidded through a bunch of tape and pretended that it was the extra 8mph that caused it rather than the fact he barely pressed the brake pedal. Last episode was a cracker, when the chav couldn't control the skid car and hit the inflatable car. Gitfaced Jones slowly turned to the camera with a look of abject horror, as if he'd just seen an entire family slaughtered and their bodyparts scattered across the road.This episode was just as bad. Why, for instance, were 90% of the clips outtakes from police chases, and the remaining 10% examples of people not paying attention or falling asleep at the wheel? What has a police chase or falling asleep got to do with speeding? If speeding causes so many accidents why on earth couldn't they find one single piece of video evidence to support that? Not to mention that every single clip had been shown before (don't get me started on the way the BBC make new shows from recycled material and pads out what's left with empty time-fillers - "coming up..." "We've just seen..." etc. etc.) f
king lentil eating stbags.And the face-to-face thing made me laugh. Is anyone on the planet so retarded that they've never considered that when two cars crash, those cars may become damaged, and that the people inside are sometimes injured?
I don't speed much anymore, but f
k me after watching that I want to fk off down the highstreet at 110mph shouting "fk THE BBC!"Edited by carmonk on Friday 6th August 15:48
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