Walking Dead Season 5 - Spoilers will be cannibalised
Discussion
smithyithy said:
I know, but that's kinda why it's annoying in that the earlier episodes touched on the science behind it, I keep mentioning the CDC episodes because they did actually explain it.
That would be the CDC episode where the brain scan shows the brain dying, followed by a little spark of life down in the brain stem;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCzwt5dwJPA
dialogue said:
It restarts the brain?
No, just the brain stem. Basically it gets them up and moving.
But they're not alive?
You tell me.
It's nothing like before. Most of their brain is dark.
Dark. Lifeless. Dead. The frontal lobes, the neocortext, that doesn't come back, the you part. Just a shell driven by mindless instinct.
Which doesn't really explain why you can kill them with any penetrating brain injury. If it's just the brain stem and the rest of the brain is dead, an arrow through the forehead isn't going to do anything.No, just the brain stem. Basically it gets them up and moving.
But they're not alive?
You tell me.
It's nothing like before. Most of their brain is dark.
Dark. Lifeless. Dead. The frontal lobes, the neocortext, that doesn't come back, the you part. Just a shell driven by mindless instinct.
smithyithy said:
Also, whether it's credible or not, it's not on par with some something like Dawn Of The Dead where 'when there's no room in hell, the dead walk the earth' (100% impossible), it's more akin to 28 Days Later, for example.
Which is also physiologically implausible - it takes less than a minute from a drop of blood in the eye to symptomatic infection. That's the time for the virus to penetrate the cells in the eye, instruct them to make more virus particles, complete that process, burst the cells, get into the bloodstream, travel to the brain, cross the blood-brain barrier, infect brain tissue, replicate sufficiently to cause enough damage to change behaviour... Shortest viral incubation periods are ~ 1 day. Closest thing to the rage virus would be rabies, with an incubation period of 30-100 days...Without the "everybody is already infected" angle, TWD is more plausible than 28DL - we're talking about a kind of turbocharged rabies, spread by saliva, takes a day or two to drive you crazy and start becoming hyper-aggressive and bitey. Except that, obviously, it kills you, then reanimates part of your brain, then allows you to go walking around without any circulation or respiration to provide energy to your muscles. At which point we are back to magic. With the "going to turn whatever you die of angle" - so the virus rapidly multiplies from the point of death, reanimates you and gets into your salivary glands enough to make you contagious - and contagious enough that a single bite will kill someone in a day or two. But not into your blood, nobody dies from being covered in walker blood. You could hypothesise that what kills you from a bite is not what reanimates you as a thing with a deadly bite after you die, but then that does not accord with the brain scan in the CDC episode.
Best to suspend disbelief and not think about it too much
Yeah very well explained - thanks! I guess it's just the geek in me, and presumably other people, that would prefer either definitive 'science' or definitive 'magic'.
Seems that we started with a hint of the former, but will have to accept the latter or else drive ourselves mad trying to rationalise it
Seems that we started with a hint of the former, but will have to accept the latter or else drive ourselves mad trying to rationalise it
FourWheelDrift said:
Generating electricity?
Herd walkers onto a large conveyor belt, live bait at one end, connect belt to wheel, connect to dynamo = endless power
Yeah and before long they'll be asking for tea breaks, paid sick, luncheon vouchers and goodness knows what else. It's a slippery slope mate, I tell ya, and don't get me started on Maternity leave…Herd walkers onto a large conveyor belt, live bait at one end, connect belt to wheel, connect to dynamo = endless power
Back to the ep, what was the relevance of the "W", a reference to Woodbury perhaps? any speculation?.
Edited by texaxile on Wednesday 11th March 20:08
Edited by texaxile on Wednesday 11th March 20:09
hornetrider said:
Pesty said:
Yes it was a nice touch. Can't wait till she gets all Rambo again.
Her little monologue to the boy was pretty f
ked up 
I hope she take out those guys in that town.mthey are begging to piss me off from here. Especially the one in charge. Come on carol sort them out,
Also I bet she was quite hot, she has a nice smile. Best character in there by a mile.
Bullett said:
She's ballsed up.
Not, not killing the kid.
Not taking the guns.
Taking the Chocolate.
I think so too. As soon as she took it I remembered the woman said I can only let you have 1/4 bar or whatever. It's clear she knows what she's got and it will be noticed.Not, not killing the kid.
Not taking the guns.
Taking the Chocolate.
Still as long as it brings the conflict. Ricks gonna kill that guy and bang his hot wife.
Carol gonna bring the truth probably start by putting some 5.56 in the guy who said he'd teach her to shoot
Edited by Pesty on Wednesday 11th March 21:54
moanthebairns said:
If you slept with a zombie, would you become a zombie, via std?
sorry, but its puzzled me for ages.
Well, if it helps I have had worse than; I think I'm not a walker?:sorry, but its puzzled me for ages.
FourWheelDrift said:
Series 2
The last two episodes were titled 'Remember' and 'Forget', which are fairly self eplanatory having seen them. Coming up we have 'Spend', 'Try' and 'Conquer'. Sounds like maybe it is building up slowly over another two episodes until the final cliff hanger?Edited by skip_1 on Wednesday 11th March 22:56
skip_1 said:
The last two episodes were titled 'Remember' and 'Forget', which are fairly self eplanatory having seen them. Coming up we have 'Spend', 'Try' and 'Conquer'. Sounds like maybe it is building up slowly over another two episodes until the final cliff hanger?
All the episode titles from 12 to the finale have been taken from Hershels speech back in Season 1 when he hands over the pocket watch after being asked why he keeps winding it.In the first episode within Alexandria "Remember" Rick starts winding his watch when he's deciding if they should stay.
Episode 12-Remember
Episode 13-Forget
Episode 14-Spend
Episode 15-Try
Episode 16-Conquer
Hershal:"I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you may forget it. For a moment, now and then, and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it.’”
That little easter egg I read somewhere else. The only ones I've picked up on are the more visual ones like the Morgan sign and all the Wolves hints like the spray paint on the wall and on the barn, the walkers with W carved in their heads, and Carls comic book called Wolf Fight.
There's more subtle ones that I've not noticed but read about like Rick becoming Shane, and the scene where he shaves off his beard. And the comparison between Daryl and the horse Buttons. They've started doing these hidden things and foreshadowing alot more in Season 5 than in previous seasons.
There's more subtle ones that I've not noticed but read about like Rick becoming Shane, and the scene where he shaves off his beard. And the comparison between Daryl and the horse Buttons. They've started doing these hidden things and foreshadowing alot more in Season 5 than in previous seasons.
B3NNL said:
Do you guys pick all this up from just watching or do you all google the hell out of TWD daily?
I feel somewhat inadequate as I just sit there and watch it in zombie mode myself and sturggle to recollect what happened, never mind remembering and connecting details like that!
You too!I feel somewhat inadequate as I just sit there and watch it in zombie mode myself and sturggle to recollect what happened, never mind remembering and connecting details like that!
I'm thinking that perhaps not everyone sits there shouting "stab it", "kill it" "you mong, how did you not hear that coming".
ad70x7 said:
Hershal:"I give it to you not that you may remember time, but that you may forget it. For a moment, now and then, and not spend all of your breath trying to conquer it.’”
Damn, I miss Hershel. And Dale. They were the moral compass of the show. Now all we have a a twitchy episcopal priest.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff