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FourWheelDrift

88,734 posts

286 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Well I have had enough already, that Peter Jones I am better than you attitude he has.

I bet at some stage he will also say "why should I invest in that, I can make that tomorrow and sell it"

wjwren

4,484 posts

137 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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I'm surprised this is still on. It became boring couple of years ago with people using it as an advert for their businesses.

Butter Face

30,531 posts

162 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Peter Jones is a bellend sometimes!

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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fking hell.

Where do they find 'em?

And, 'Don't call me Debbie'

roflrofl

Laurel Green

30,797 posts

234 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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A mate of mine is having one of these installed in his garden - not sure if it is the same firm but it does sound as though it is the same product.

Laurel Green

30,797 posts

234 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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rofl One in the eye for Peter.

CoolHands

18,842 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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I concede that episode was better than I expected. The security bike shed guy was an ADHD fruitcake - good in the workshop but an absolute nightmare as a businessman; didn't have a clue.

The young couple of boys with 'pouch' were good although I don't like products like that (have to download into your browser); will appeal to women more than men I suspect. Get mumsnet on board and it'll probably make a load of money.

wjwren

4,484 posts

137 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Peter Jones comes across as a bit of a tit.

DSLiverpool

14,815 posts

204 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Pouch had no protection anyone could get it coded and out market them - basket abandonment due to code search is a real issue hence wheelio and the like are doing well.

PurpleTurtle

7,129 posts

146 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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I like the idea of Pouch but as stated above, could easily be replicated.

The five-a-side guy, his issue with HMRC was clearly scripted and known to the Dragons, I rather thought they (or the producers) hung him out to dry a tad there. All that bullst about "I would have invested if you'd just been up front about it" ... no they wouldn't, he was included for dramtic effect only.

bad company

18,781 posts

268 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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wjwren said:
I'm surprised this is still on. It became boring couple of years ago with people using it as an advert for their businesses.
Your solution is simple and very obvious.

V8covin

7,422 posts

195 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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I like the new woman,then again I liked the one she replaced smile

GetCarter

29,436 posts

281 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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PurpleTurtle said:
The five-a-side guy, his issue with HMRC was clearly scripted and known to the Dragons, I rather thought they (or the producers) hung him out to dry a tad there. All that bullst about "I would have invested if you'd just been up front about it" ... no they wouldn't, he was included for dramtic effect only.
How do you know that to be a fact?

I mean... I know the lift isn't a lift... but couldn't be sure his details were known to the dragons.

bigandclever

13,838 posts

240 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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This is quite interesting (if you're nosey and you like that sort of thing) ... https://www.tigermobiles.com/dragons-den/

Goes up to Series 13.


HARTLEYHARE1

588 posts

131 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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This has ran its course years ago

Terrible television in all areas

bad company

18,781 posts

268 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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HARTLEYHARE1 said:
This has ran its course years ago

Terrible television in all areas
I still like it very much. Some of the entrepreneurs are excellent and others a real joke.

If you think it's terrible why do you watch?

dom9

8,102 posts

211 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Enjoyed that one... Still think Peter is a pantomime villain!

bad company

18,781 posts

268 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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dom9 said:
Enjoyed that one... Still think Peter is a pantomime villain!
He looked really pissed off when he didn't get the 'Pouch' deal.

MitchT

15,971 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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DSLiverpool said:
Pouch had no protection anyone could get it coded and out ...
You can't protect tech IP in the UK. I read an interesting article on this a few years ago. Essentially, the view is that if you could protect IP noone would ever develop anything for fear of being sued by someone that had already protected something similar, so it would stifle creativity and innovation. Of course, inability to protect one's IP can discourage people from developing things for fear of it being stolen. In reality this doesn't seem to out people off though.

PurpleTurtle said:
I like the idea of Pouch but as stated above, could easily be replicated.
It could, but this doesn't seem to put people off. If everyone who had an idea refrained from developing it because if could easily be replicated then there'd be very few apps out there and some that have made it big would never have existed. I'm part of a team developing something at the moment and someone we've had advice from thinks you shouldn't worry too much about this. It's more likely, if you come up with something really great and it gets enough traction to appear on the radar of the big players, that one of them will buy it and continue developing it themselves rather than start from scratch replicating it. He's been on teams developing a number of apps which have had precisely this experience - it's not necessarily about being the next Mark Zuckerberg, more developing something that Facebook, Google, etc. might want to buy from you once it's started to blossom.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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As above, it's not about protecting the code. Code itself does not make a company successful, it's only half the battle - probably not even half tbh. Most of the battle is the industry knowledge, commercial connections, friends in high places, marketing effectiveness, cashflow, etc. It's much, MUCH harder to replicate these things successfully.