Discussion
Halb said:
AshVX220 said:
how Darth hunts down the remaining jedi and how the alliance builds up (If you're reading Mr Disney).
Order 66 destroyed that be showing that Darth only kid toddlers in the temple, and all the Jedi were killed by clones.As I said in the other thread running on this subject, I think this is actually very good news.
Disney have proved with Avengers Assemble that they can be sympathetic to a franchise after they purchased Marvel. And that they use decent scriptwriters and directors - let's face it, George Lucas is a crap scriptwriter and an even worse director.
My only concern is that new films may affect the canon of the Expanded Universe.
Personally they should either be set outside the lifetimes of Leia, Luke and Han, or else they should be set so that Luke, Han and Leia are close in age to Hamil (61), Ford (70) and Fisher (56) and the story was about Luke's Jedi Academy and/or Han & Leia's children.
Also, Disney recognise the power of brand and not to dilute it. The "Yodafone" adverts completely cheapened the strong brand of the character Yoda. You'd not see Disney do that with Mickey Mouse.
Darth Vader is a pop culture icon so he's ok to be used for marketing, but Yoda should have been sacrosanct and I bet Disney would recognise that.
So, overall I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
Disney have proved with Avengers Assemble that they can be sympathetic to a franchise after they purchased Marvel. And that they use decent scriptwriters and directors - let's face it, George Lucas is a crap scriptwriter and an even worse director.
My only concern is that new films may affect the canon of the Expanded Universe.
Personally they should either be set outside the lifetimes of Leia, Luke and Han, or else they should be set so that Luke, Han and Leia are close in age to Hamil (61), Ford (70) and Fisher (56) and the story was about Luke's Jedi Academy and/or Han & Leia's children.
Also, Disney recognise the power of brand and not to dilute it. The "Yodafone" adverts completely cheapened the strong brand of the character Yoda. You'd not see Disney do that with Mickey Mouse.
Darth Vader is a pop culture icon so he's ok to be used for marketing, but Yoda should have been sacrosanct and I bet Disney would recognise that.
So, overall I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
Halb said:
Will it follow the books as canon, or will it dispense with them and make any purchases of any books about any extended universe wholly pointless in the future? I don't think Disney could be that stupid. Makes much more financial and common sense to add to rather than ignore the extended universe.
George Lucas has always maintained that the films and the Expanded Universe are separate canon. Personally I think that is an immensely lame cop-out and that he only said that because he doesn't want to be bound by the Expanded Universe. JonRB said:
George Lucas has always maintained that the films and the Expanded Universe are separate canon. Personally I think that is an immensely lame cop-out and that he only said that because he doesn't want to be bound by the Expanded Universe.
That is just so George! Glad I stopped reading them after Thrawn, there was a lot of dross anyway.He really does turn on a sixpence.
I do also recall him saying anything was on the books save for Yoda, he was to be kept out of it (special)...until the vodafone adverts of course.
AshVX220 said:
I'm guessing that Order 66 didn't get them all, or some managed to fight back and survive and that is why Vader was sent out to hunt down and kill the remainder.
I'd like to think that, but the rest of it was so badly judged that I feel he just ignored or forgot about this. The final impression I get at the end of ROTS is that there's only two left.Streetrod said:
If it all goes tits up then he feels he is still set for a massive pay day as the value of his own very rare action figure will go through the roof
Sorry but having bought 10,000 of these and burnt all but 5. I will be cashing in BIG TIME with a one off reserve of £.099 the week before Ep.7 is released Some or all of this post may be a lie...
y2blade said:
VinceFox said:
I'll be cold in the fking ground before i let them throw my childhood hero character away on being played by that little . The best bit of him ran down his mums leg.
I couldn't have said it better myself.Halb said:
AshVX220 said:
how Darth hunts down the remaining jedi and how the alliance builds up (If you're reading Mr Disney).
Order 66 destroyed that be showing that Darth only kid toddlers in the temple, and all the Jedi were killed by clones.Negative Creep said:
...We all knew it was going to happen, but holy crap was the Order 66 part brutal.
I thought it was utter st. For many reasons, but the main two being that it shows Vader had no input into killing the Jedi (going against what was said in Star Wars and destroying what his monster rep is based on) and that the mighty Jedi were all killed by a bunch of retarded 3 year old clones of a bounty hunter.http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge
Also regardless of how good a warrior you are, a large number of soldiers armed with the element of complete surprise are likely to come out on top
Negative Creep said:
It didn't completely wipe out the Jedi
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge
Also regardless of how good a warrior you are, a large number of soldiers armed with the element of complete surprise are likely to come out on top
Yeah, I suppose the 'extended universe' wiki can write anything to try and tie up the sloppy story in the films. It's a shame that none of that made it into the film, instead we see a bunch of useless Jedi get taken down with ease. Just another botched attempt by Lucas. The only successful Jedis' we see are Ben and Yoda, which gives the overall impression they are the only ones left, especially when they get to the Jedi base.http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge
Also regardless of how good a warrior you are, a large number of soldiers armed with the element of complete surprise are likely to come out on top
The result, the only Jedi worth a damn are Yoda, Mace and Ben. Which reinforces the best warriors can and will escape, and the rest will be fodder for clones.
Hopeless. It just reinforces the 'you're st and you know you are' moment we get with Emperor and Mace when the Emperor goes through the fodder Jedi like they weren't even there only for Mace to smash him.
edit
Hamill's comments.
http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/11/1/mark-hamills-...
Edited by Halb on Thursday 1st November 18:27
Is 1952 disneys version of blue harvest?
http://collider.com/brad-bird-1952/163826/
Personally I'd like to see Joss Whedon direct, but would be happy with Brad Bird.
http://collider.com/brad-bird-1952/163826/
Personally I'd like to see Joss Whedon direct, but would be happy with Brad Bird.
It's when your 9yr old nephew watching the Yoda and Ben scene as Luke leaves Degoba, "Why doesn't Ben know about Leia, he was there when her and Luke were born" and when they are waiting for the slow moving R2D2 to get the Falcon escaping Bespin "Why doesn't R2D2 just fly? It'd be quicker"
That's good.
Thank the heavens!!!!
"However he will no longer have creative control..."
http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/11/2/luke-skywalke...
Thank the heavens!!!!
"However he will no longer have creative control..."
http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/11/2/luke-skywalke...
Well, I hope it is good. I don't mind 1-3 (just about bear them), I hope someone really does them justice. But what can the story be? I mean, the Death Star blown up (surely there won't be a third one with the same design flaw to allow a small fighter to take it down), Vader dead, and only 1 Jedi (Luke) Ok also have Leia but they can't really say there are loads left to fight a Sith battle given that no mention is made of lots of others in ESB and ROTJ when they are talking about disturbances in the force etc...
Jasandjules said:
Well, I hope it is good. I don't mind 1-3 (just about bear them), I hope someone really does them justice. But what can the story be? I mean, the Death Star blown up (surely there won't be a third one with the same design flaw to allow a small fighter to take it down), Vader dead, and only 1 Jedi (Luke) Ok also have Leia but they can't really say there are loads left to fight a Sith battle given that no mention is made of lots of others in ESB and ROTJ when they are talking about disturbances in the force etc...
I think there is loads they could do. They could do a lot worse than film the Heir to the Empire story. Or the New Jedi Academy. Or the story that unfolded in the Dark Forces game. Or something about the Old Republic (ie. a complete break from the other films). Get a grip people they are just films.
Sure we hold them in high regard but that's because we were kids when they came out.
We're not kids anymore.
Star wars is a hige cash cow and Disneys bought it to milk what evers left of the franchise, accept that and enjoy the output for what it is or ignore it and get on with your lives.
Sure we hold them in high regard but that's because we were kids when they came out.
We're not kids anymore.
Star wars is a hige cash cow and Disneys bought it to milk what evers left of the franchise, accept that and enjoy the output for what it is or ignore it and get on with your lives.
JonRB said:
And what we drive are "just cars"
You can reduce anything that anyone has an interest in to nothing with the word "just". What a boring and bland world that would leave though.
Wow you're crazy! To reduce people's hobbies to mindless and bland interactions with the world, let's just all bring back the Soviet Union to live in while we're at it! You can reduce anything that anyone has an interest in to nothing with the word "just". What a boring and bland world that would leave though.
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