Gladiators

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RB Will

9,678 posts

242 months

Saturday 20th January
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Am I the only one who does the “Gladiator ready 3 2 1” etc in my own head in the proper voice each time?

PRO 5T

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27 months

Saturday 20th January
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asfault said:
The travelator looked proper fast when the girls got to it first time.
benefits of rewind.
takes about 3 seconds for the arrow to get from the top to the bottom
First girl fell 3 times, 4 attempt it took about 4 seconds for the arrow to get to the bottom
And 5 seconds for the 2nd girls run.

Gonna rewind for the boys to see.
I don't think the eliminator gets the credit it deserves unless you're you're used to that form of exercise. Either by fluke or design there's parts of it any mere mortal could blitz if they're half fit but by the same margin all of them together is fking brutal.

The travelator at the finish is cruel beyond measure. The amount of folk who get there gassed is no joke, it's still a proper uphill sprint! I class myself fit but I reckon I could do it once with nothing else before it, start putting circuits in and it would be H A R D !

The other thing is the rope wall climb. The staggered start means nearly everyone hits it at a different time so by the time the second person jumps its already moving-if you want to win you want to be on that climb before your competitor or you'll miss the jump and sump to the bottom. That's before you consider technique where most people don't know how to climb a rope ladder effectively.

Despite saying all that most of the adults at our Gladiators Party (how times change) reckoned they'd give it a go-truth be told I reckon only two would have half a chance.

Not ashamed to say we bought the kids big foam hands in red and blue hehe

bristolbaron

4,883 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th January
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All good fun, kids are loving it. Things definitely seem a bit watered down for the new generation - the gladiators aren’t as gladiatorial as they used to be! Bring back the roids!






MC Bodge

21,855 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th January
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I agree. The Eliminator would be very tough.

The hand bike from the original would have been an absolute killer.

It is easy to pass judgement from a sofa. The standard of the competitors is presumably fairly high.

I wonder what sort of training competitors typically do?


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27 months

Saturday 20th January
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bristolbaron said:
All good fun, kids are loving it. Things definitely seem a bit watered down for the new generation - the gladiators aren’t as gladiatorial as they used to be! Bring back the roids!
Good point! There's a load of different between looking good and being a machine though, take two of the new Gladiators-Diamond and Giant. Those two are fking units-absolute perfect specimens in certain ways. But in some games they'd be useless, I know some people that would run rings around them in some games.

In the modern world of free runners and their like I'm actually amazed the Gladiators still look like "Gladiators"!

g4ry13

17,191 posts

257 months

Saturday 20th January
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The male gladiators relatively speaking are much bigger than male contestants. Whereas the female gladiators are quite similar in size. Dynamite is too small for the show, she was getting outmuscled by the competitors. Not sure she'll be kept around too long on the show.


Ancient Wheelbarrow

10,642 posts

223 months

Saturday 20th January
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Nobody ever sprints up hills, it's a terrible idea. Add an escalator going the wrong way into the mix...it's very difficult to train for that. Hills sap so much energy (in ultra running it's a legitimate tactic to walk them), I 100% understand them slowing it down for multiple runs. If the first attempt has killed you off there is no way you're getting up it a second time without a proper rest.

As others have said, doing it is one thing, doing it after climbing the rope wall and everything else: brutal.

MC Bodge

21,855 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th January
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Ancient Wheelbarrow said:
Nobody ever sprints up hills, it's a terrible idea. Add an escalator going the wrong way into the mix...it's very difficult to train for that. Hills sap so much energy (in ultra running it's a legitimate tactic to walk them)
People do sprint up hill, often for training purposes -It's tough and is supposed to be.


MC Bodge

21,855 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th January
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PRO 5T said:
Good point! There's a load of different between looking good and being a machine though, take two of the new Gladiators-Diamond and Giant. Those two are fking units-absolute perfect specimens in certain ways. But in some games they'd be useless, I know some people that would run rings around them in some games.

In the modern world of free runners and their like I'm actually amazed the Gladiators still look like "Gladiators"!
The male gladiators being so big and bulky are part of the theatre of it, but the competitors are what all-round fit "normal" people really look like.

Standing on a small podium (removing much in the way of evasion and footwork) and hitting somebody with a big cotton wool bud favours a heavier person. Some of the other event favour the smaller and more agile.

Most of the Gladiator men would presumably not be as quick as good competitors on the The Eliminator.


Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 20th January 23:23

coolchris

931 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st January
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Don't forget how much getting up in front of a huge crowd would drain one with nerves etc Its okay training in a gym etc but getting out in a big arena like that with the added pressure of family,crowd and going up against the gladiators is a completely different level.Also we don't know how much downtime there is between events to aid recovery so doing the eliminator at the end of a long day filming for example would be a lot tougher than doing it fresh.You need a bit of everything to excel on the show and probably one of the main factors is mental toughness and having full confidence in the contestants own ability.

Randy Winkman

16,399 posts

191 months

Sunday 21st January
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asfault said:
The travelator looked proper fast when the girls got to it first time.
benefits of rewind.
takes about 3 seconds for the arrow to get from the top to the bottom
First girl fell 3 times, 4 attempt it took about 4 seconds for the arrow to get to the bottom
And 5 seconds for the 2nd girls run.

Gonna rewind for the boys to see.


Edited by asfault on Saturday 20th January 22:14
If you put the jumped start to one side wink Marie Louise did deserve to win because she got to the travellator way first. But either by luck or judgement she was the first of the two to make an attempt after they had slowed it down. But I don't think they slow it down to favour a particular contestant, I think they just do it to make sure someone wins and that once that's happened, they both cross the line and complete the course. Not that you said to the contrary.

In the men's race, the winner did it first time so there was no need to slow it. For the runner up I'd say it was slowed a bit for his second go so he could finish. Not by a lot though. I'd guess that the more goes someone has, the more they slow it. As I remember, that always used to be the case.



Last Visit

2,871 posts

190 months

Sunday 21st January
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I'd want the direction reversing not just slowing by the time I got to it biggrin

Portofino

4,322 posts

193 months

Sunday 21st January
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Watched it last night & quite enjoyed it.

Few observations, the Gauntlet is it, where they run through the half pipe, the men must have been told to tone it down & hit the contestants in the chest area because with the size & weight difference it should be easy to go low & ping them out of the pipe.

Mentioned above, the women are pretty much the same size & the men are definitely roidless & cleaner.

Thought the game where they need to run end to end on hexagons & not get knocked off was pretty poor from the Gladiators. Slow, ponderous & lacking strategy from the so called pros.

Like the pantomine villain vibe ‘The light was in my eyes!’ ha ha.

Oh & the travelator was definitely slowed down at the end.




PRO 5T

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4,070 posts

27 months

Sunday 21st January
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The girl jumping the start was pretty unfair, it happened a lot in last week's episode as well-they need to stamp out some of that. I think if she hadn't jumped the start the paramedic girl would have got to the travelator first because she was much faster on that initial section.

I still think the rope ladder wall isn't set up right with the jump onto it as whoever jumps second nearly always falls as they're now jumping at a moving target-that can lose you ten seconds by itself.

Not that any of this is complaints, it's so good it's worth nit-picking over the small details!

RB Will

9,678 posts

242 months

Sunday 21st January
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I’m thinking the sound is a bit out of sync. Every even seems to start before you hear the whistle

Kamov

249 posts

13 months

Sunday 21st January
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Great show again, kids loved it, sorry but still not happy with Brad and Son, every time it cuts to Brad it feels like he's took a wrong turn somewhere and stepped into the wrong show, literally and metaphorically.
He's pure game show host, this is 'meant' to be taken as a sport, always has been that way from its American inception.

Of the vast pot of talking heads that they use for Match of the Day, male and female, how in hell do they not have two sporty hosts wearing casual clothes, like Fash and Ulrika did.

And Brads son just isn't worth talking about, its not his fault, and i bare him no grudge, but massive mistake IMO and does rather spoil it over all for me.

Aside from that, its about as good as Sat night family entertainment gets.

g4ry13

17,191 posts

257 months

Sunday 21st January
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coolchris said:
Don't forget how much getting up in front of a huge crowd would drain one with nerves etc Its okay training in a gym etc but getting out in a big arena like that with the added pressure of family,crowd and going up against the gladiators is a completely different level.Also we don't know how much downtime there is between events to aid recovery so doing the eliminator at the end of a long day filming for example would be a lot tougher than doing it fresh.You need a bit of everything to excel on the show and probably one of the main factors is mental toughness and having full confidence in the contestants own ability.
I know that back in the day there used to be a lot of downtime between events. Clearing the arena / setting it up for the next event was not a quick process and it would be a very long day for contestants / audience etc.

They're probably a bit more efficient now in moving things around, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least an hour between events.

Ben Jk

1,643 posts

168 months

Sunday 21st January
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We are really enjoying it. I was wondering, particularly with the eliminator if decent Ninja Warrior contestants would be a a good fit? They may not do as well in some of the events that need big bulk, but with Eliminator they would probably smoke it.

Not quite the same but with the travelator…I’ve been on one at the end of Men’s Health Survival Of The Fittest. Not saying it’s an exact comparison but it’s grim. First 2 steps and any fatigue in legs bites you and it’s a grind/survival to get to the top. I was okay because although I had st upper body strength for some of the obstacles, I was light and had run pedigree so could get up it.


Edited by Ben Jk on Sunday 21st January 12:45

MC Bodge

21,855 posts

177 months

Sunday 21st January
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Portofino said:
Mentioned above, the women are pretty much the same size & the men are definitely roidless & cleaner.

Thought the game where they need to run end to end on hexagons & not get knocked off was pretty poor from the Gladiators. Slow, ponderous & lacking strategy from the so called pros.
As somebody who is lean, with a decent level of all-round fitness, but obviously not at the required level of PH masculinity (and in my mid 40s), how do some of those gladiators mintain that level of muscle without pharmaceutical assistance?

Their slow ponderousness on the hexagon thing is presumably a by-product of their bulkiness. Size and strength is of no use in an event that requires speed and agility. The Male Gladiators do not have the right attributes to be good contenders. If they did, the contenders would look like the gladiators and they obviously do not.

Ps. It would be interesting to see how the games would be if the gladiators were current top level rugby, football, decathlon or combat sport players etc.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 21st January 14:01

MiniMan64

17,010 posts

192 months

Sunday 21st January
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A lot of obsession with how fast that travelator moves on here hehe