BBC Top Gear 2017 Thread
Discussion
Watched both TG and EG yesterday with the missus, we both enjoyed TG, some fab cars, good gags like the Hilary Clinton one and as much as the Golf vid might of been staged it was good to see Sabine really going for it around the track.
EG was pretty good too, particularly the part about the R8 chase car, looked lovely in that blue colour too. The missus wasn't too impressed with the presenter though.
EG was pretty good too, particularly the part about the R8 chase car, looked lovely in that blue colour too. The missus wasn't too impressed with the presenter though.
ash73 said:
98elise said:
Lost a further 400k viewers this week I've been told.
Madness. Make a decent programme and people switch off in droves, while baking competitions and a plague of period dramas are a sure thing.
Three shows in, and it's ok. I wouldn't worry if I missed it, and if there was something better on another channel, I'd be watching that instead.
Harris is just plain annoying. He's not clever, not funny and comes across as a skinhead bully. Rory, pointless. Le Blanc is watchable, much better than Evans, but needs to be more himself and less scripted.
The Aston/Merc thing last night was okay, but they clearly didn't know how to finish the piece, so had a ridiculous car chase with 'police' in Astras.
Star interview thing goes on for far too long and is pointless. I can honestly say I'd never heard of Tamsin Greig before last night and would struggle to recognise her again.
A 5/10 from me. Don't bin it yet, but be very careful it doesn't turn into a Fifth Gear irrelevance.
Harris is just plain annoying. He's not clever, not funny and comes across as a skinhead bully. Rory, pointless. Le Blanc is watchable, much better than Evans, but needs to be more himself and less scripted.
The Aston/Merc thing last night was okay, but they clearly didn't know how to finish the piece, so had a ridiculous car chase with 'police' in Astras.
Star interview thing goes on for far too long and is pointless. I can honestly say I'd never heard of Tamsin Greig before last night and would struggle to recognise her again.
A 5/10 from me. Don't bin it yet, but be very careful it doesn't turn into a Fifth Gear irrelevance.
Hmmm....
Enjoyed to 1st episode, then the 2nd one (albeit slightly little less).
This third one, I hoped to build on this good start but IMHO to summarise:
- Matt & Chris's Aston feature... pretty good until the pointless police chase which was just like the worst of the Jeremy days....
- Stig... Good lap, like Chris's commentary on these.
- Star... Thought it would be good with Tamsin G. but it was excruciating at times. Just goes on too long - the formula is wrong somehow. Maybe it is 3 interviewers and 1 interviewee - just unbalanced?
- Golf GTI.... Started off well. Would have liked more time on the MK1 GTI (but that's biased - I had one!) but the on the Nurburgring with the Sabine and Rory... I just cringed almost all the time. Shout Shout Shout, Over Excited Shout Shout Shout.... and who actually cares about the cost of the cars they overtook? I don't think it would have been worse with Chris Evans (sorry Rory - you are not usually as unsuitable)... and Sabine - jeepers, just stop yelling all the time too - you are making him worse! Extremely good car though - would like to have seen the Nurburgring bit just done with just Stig and Chris's commentary....
- Fiat 124 - Back to form and couldn't agree more with the summary.
- TG Extra - fast forwarded most of it - all the golf stuff and all the modded barry-cars stuff. Liked the camera stuff and some of the chat.
So overall - needs a much better week next week for me. It can work - I know it can, but this was my least favourite one so far.
Enjoyed to 1st episode, then the 2nd one (albeit slightly little less).
This third one, I hoped to build on this good start but IMHO to summarise:
- Matt & Chris's Aston feature... pretty good until the pointless police chase which was just like the worst of the Jeremy days....
- Stig... Good lap, like Chris's commentary on these.
- Star... Thought it would be good with Tamsin G. but it was excruciating at times. Just goes on too long - the formula is wrong somehow. Maybe it is 3 interviewers and 1 interviewee - just unbalanced?
- Golf GTI.... Started off well. Would have liked more time on the MK1 GTI (but that's biased - I had one!) but the on the Nurburgring with the Sabine and Rory... I just cringed almost all the time. Shout Shout Shout, Over Excited Shout Shout Shout.... and who actually cares about the cost of the cars they overtook? I don't think it would have been worse with Chris Evans (sorry Rory - you are not usually as unsuitable)... and Sabine - jeepers, just stop yelling all the time too - you are making him worse! Extremely good car though - would like to have seen the Nurburgring bit just done with just Stig and Chris's commentary....
- Fiat 124 - Back to form and couldn't agree more with the summary.
- TG Extra - fast forwarded most of it - all the golf stuff and all the modded barry-cars stuff. Liked the camera stuff and some of the chat.
So overall - needs a much better week next week for me. It can work - I know it can, but this was my least favourite one so far.
Not so keen on last night's. Aston piece started ok but descended into sillyness. The studio pieces this week were extremely stilted and wooden, they still don't seem to have any ooomph between them.
Rory and Chris are not my cup of tea the more i see of them the more i realise this.
Newest shape MX5 is a nice looking car.
I do however want to go to Montenegro. Wonderful looking roads
Rory and Chris are not my cup of tea the more i see of them the more i realise this.
Newest shape MX5 is a nice looking car.
I do however want to go to Montenegro. Wonderful looking roads
Thought the films were ok, in fact was really enjoying the Nurburgring piece until Rory used the word "owned" (a word by people who play too many online games) and started shrieking like a demented parrot every time they overtook a car - and I still say her lap in the Transit was far more impressive, and a better story, but all fairly watchable.
But the studio bits? Awful. Awkward, don't flow very well and far too much Star in a Reasonably Priced Car. It's also immediately obvious the difference between an actor and a presenter/broadcaster - love him or hate him, but the ape was much better at that side of things.
But the studio bits? Awful. Awkward, don't flow very well and far too much Star in a Reasonably Priced Car. It's also immediately obvious the difference between an actor and a presenter/broadcaster - love him or hate him, but the ape was much better at that side of things.
suffolk009 said:
Has anyone got the overnight numbers?
I've been told by a mate that they are 400k down on last week, but I've not seen anything official so at the moment take that as speculation.Edited to add....
His source, again not official AFAIK
http://www.tellymix.co.uk/ratings/305309-ratings-t...
The more important figures are how well its selling abroad, if its not selling then its going to be hard to justify a decent budget. Without the budget then the first thing out the door will be the high production costs.
Edited by 98elise on Monday 20th March 15:56
Seems that a lot of people liked it. Can't say I'm a fan yet, but I want it to succeed.
The real issue is them still persisting at forcing the three new presenters into the perfectly fitting, bespoke format that Clarkson and co had developed for themselves over many years. Square peg into a round hole syndrome. The continuation of the old format is dragging the whole thing down. None of the presenters are particularly good at the studio segments/celebrity interviews, and I can't help but think that the show would be better off removing that aspect altogether.
Part of the reason SIARPC worked was because Clarkson was a half decent interviewer who already had three series worth of experience hosting his own chat show. Having the three of them sat there, clearly out of their comfort zone, is just plain uncomfortable, and it takes up way too much time. It's like a crummy, vaguely car themed version of the One Show.
I would much prefer to see the show revert to a magazine format with multiple presenters, as the quality of the individual films is actually pretty good. Let Chris Harris travel the world doing the supercar reviews. Give MLB the fun stuff to do. Show us Sabine doing some proper motorsport. What about someone like Mat Watson doing some actual, real world, informative car reviews that are still entertaining? Heck, Tiff Needell isn't up to much these days - it would be great to have him back.
In summary: what I'm trying to say is that Top Gear should try to be more like a motoring version of Countryfile. Wait, that just sounds weird...
The real issue is them still persisting at forcing the three new presenters into the perfectly fitting, bespoke format that Clarkson and co had developed for themselves over many years. Square peg into a round hole syndrome. The continuation of the old format is dragging the whole thing down. None of the presenters are particularly good at the studio segments/celebrity interviews, and I can't help but think that the show would be better off removing that aspect altogether.
Part of the reason SIARPC worked was because Clarkson was a half decent interviewer who already had three series worth of experience hosting his own chat show. Having the three of them sat there, clearly out of their comfort zone, is just plain uncomfortable, and it takes up way too much time. It's like a crummy, vaguely car themed version of the One Show.
I would much prefer to see the show revert to a magazine format with multiple presenters, as the quality of the individual films is actually pretty good. Let Chris Harris travel the world doing the supercar reviews. Give MLB the fun stuff to do. Show us Sabine doing some proper motorsport. What about someone like Mat Watson doing some actual, real world, informative car reviews that are still entertaining? Heck, Tiff Needell isn't up to much these days - it would be great to have him back.
In summary: what I'm trying to say is that Top Gear should try to be more like a motoring version of Countryfile. Wait, that just sounds weird...
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